How to speak to a gay Christian friend

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Of course a person with same sex inclinations can be a Christian. We’re ALL disordered. We ALL have inclinations toward sin (even if not that one in particular.)

In any case, none of this means you should “cut the cord.” If you cut everyone out of your life who has an inclination toward sin…well, that’s literally the entire human race.
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
In any case, none of this means you should “cut the cord.” If you cut everyone out of your life who has an inclination toward sin…well, that’s literally the entire human race.
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The purity of hermitage. It is why John of Revelation, alone in his cave on Patmos, had his divine visions. Jonah had to be alone in the whale to see the error of his ways. Christ was alone for 40 days in the desert.

The narrow path is only wide enough for one.
 
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The purity of Christ and the homosexual inclination, an objective disorder, cannot co-exist.
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And yet they so often do.

Well…maybe not. The purity of Christ exists only with Christ. “Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus, Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped.”

So let me say that a Christ-like purity can co-exist with a homosexual inclination.
 
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JeremiahB said:
The narrow path is only wide enough for one.
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Surely you understand that most people are not called to be hermits. That would bring civilization to a halt, including the Church itself. Most people most of the time need to interact with other people, which by definition means interacting with sinners. By your logic, he should abandon his wife, because I’m sure she’s a sinner too.

In any case, you should probably stop talking to me, because I’m certainly not sinless. 🙂
 
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Exactly. Christ used a rhetorical statement because He was prompting everyone to recognize that they were all sinners as well.
 
Precisely. Who, therefore, is to condemn the homosexual unless they are a hermit in a cave?
 
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No one. You should condemn homosexuality the act, but not condemn or turn your back on the homosexual the person.
 
I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you’re driving at. Break it down for me Barney style.

You are saying that he should cut off all contact with this person because this person is gay, and gay acts are sinful, right?

I pointed out that this logic would require you to have no contact with anyone at all, because all people are sinners. And your answer was yes, we should all be hermits. Have I got you right thus far?
 
You have already concluded that you are not sinless, you are not a hermit and therefore not eligible to cast a stone, yet you still do.

What is not to understand?
 
I don’t see where I’m casting a stone at anyone. I’m not condemning anyone. I’m explicitly arguing you SHOULDNT condemn anyone.

I also don’t agree with your “everyone should be a hermit” analysis, but let’s set that aside for a moment.
 
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You have already concluded that you are not sinless
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Whoa, slow your roll there. BBM said, nor implied any such thing. I’ve been reading the back and forth between you two, wondering who was misunderstanding who, and that you be you.
 
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On the wife point, your wife needs to come first before your friends. She may be annoyed that this person is taking up time you could be spending with her. She may even be concerned that this gay friend could be trying to influence you to be gay. If this guy is calling you up on a regular basis, like more than once a week, I can see a wife getting upset. Setting limits on this friend’s contact with you should help you to spend more time with your wife.
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I agree, especially with the part that said the gay friend may be trying to influence the OP.
 
Ah, I misunderstood both of you. I still don’t follow what you are trying to say and what you find wrong with what BBM said.
 
I am a bit more troubled by your wife’s reaction than the situation with your friend. I myself would want to explore that. Why is she threatened by your friend?
 
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