How's Trump for You?

[dmelosi]

He already broke several promises (as expected) - doesn’t realize the threat of Islam, either, so he’s clearly a fool.

But hey, atleast it’s still better than H-illary Clinton.

What promises has he broken?

Will you give him 1% of the time you have given Obama on his Guantanamo closing promise?

 

[St_Francis]

This is the fourth time he has asked or alluded to this question on this thread alone. He asks it on a lot of threads; people take the time to explain, and he ignires their answers and asks the same question on the next thread. Same with his pro-life has to equal maternity leave, etc.

So we’ve pretty much realized there’s no point wasting our time on replies to him.

 

[St_Francis]

I am only suggesting that you should vigorously defend all the Presidents, as they have all been your President. Either that, or don’t use the "I’m only standing up for my President because I’m more patriotic than those that don’t defend him " subtext excuse.

Maybe vigorous defense comes at the same level as the attacks against whomever is president?

Yeah, a lot of people were against a lot of Obama’s ideas. The IRS kept them out of Obama’s hair pretty well, though, didn’t they?

Trump has been in office for less than 4 months, and the media has been continually going after him, along with the Democrats and a considerable number of Republicans. Obama actually did not face that much opposition, nor did a traveling riot squad grow up to cause mayhem whenever someone who might agree with Trump more than them was invited to their city.

 

[St_Francis]

Coming from across the pond, I’ve read a bit in the British media about President Trump’s time in office so far, but I wondered what it’s really been like for Catholics in the US.

I’m curious to know:

Have there been any major surprises - good or bad?

Has your opinion of Trump as a man changed since he was elected?

You don’t have to say how you voted - but if you had to vote all over again, would you vote the same?

Day to day, have you noticed anything ***fundamentally different ***yet being under Trump rather than Obama?

Media coverage here is fairly polarised: either gloom and doom about Trump being a ‘loose cannon’ or Trump being a beacon of common sense …and not much in between (apart from lots of photos of Ivanka’s outfits!!!)

I am very happy because my desire was filled and is still filled: Hillary is not president!

It is very hard for me to assess what Trump is doing because so much of the news is “anonymous sources allege that Trump did something really, really, really bad.”

If I dig long enough, I find that Trump has re-instated the Mexico City policy, more stringently; that he has taken steps to change various “free trade” agreements so we aren’t giving away the shirts off our backs; has moved (or caused to move) things on Obamacare, which has been an utter disaster for some many people; has rescinded several regulations which were causing people to lose their jobs; etc.

So overall, he’s doing what I expected him to do.

A fundamental difference? I have completely and totally lost whatever shred of trust I might once have had in the press. They seem to have all morphed into *The Star, *a tabloid so bad they published a story about Siamese sextuplets, 4 of whom were boys and two girls…

 

[LeafByNiggle]

[Trump] has moved (or caused to move) things on Obamacare, which has been an utter disaster for some many people.

We won’t know if this is a good thing or a bad thing until we see what it is getting replaced with. Initial indications are that the replacement law will eliminate some of the most popular provisions of Obamacare, such as affordable coverage for pre-existing conditions.

 

[randomuser]

Doesn’t realize the threat of Islam? What do you call the travel ban that the left shot down?lets not talk about that right? I think he has assessed the the threat of Radical Islamic Terrorism correctly. The left is doing all they can with the media to stop him.

The travel ban that gives a free pass to the country believed to be complicit in the Radical Islamic terrorist attacks of 9/11? Hot air is what I’d call that.

The Senate passed a bill allowing 9/11-affected families to sue this same country while Obama (not Trump) was president.

 

[Miles_Christi7]

What promises has he broken?

Will you give him 1% of the time you have given Obama on his Guantanamo closing promise?

Doesn’t realize the threat of Islam? What do you call the travel ban that the left shot down?lets not talk about that right? I think he has assessed the the threat of Radical Islamic Terrorism correctly. The left is doing all they can with the media to stop him.

Oh right, when he decided to attack Assad, which resulted in this jihadwatch.org/2017/04/jihadis-cheer-trumps-missile-strike-on-syria , his so called travel ban doesn’t even include Saudi Arabia, his picks for the administration wasn’t so great, either:

jihadwatch.org/2017/02/mcmaster-tells-nsc-staff-that-label-radical-islamic-terrorism-not-helpful-because-terrorists-are-un-islamic

jihadwatch.org/2017/05/mcmaster-trump-will-call-for-muslim-leaders-to-promote-a-peaceful-vision-of-islam

jihadwatch.org/2017/02/nsa-mcmaster-islamic-state-uses-perverted-interpretation-of-religion

You also hear of Muslims being arrested every day because of terror plots in USA. Is Trump doing anything against the universities, radical groups, and the over 3.5 million Muslims promoting leftism/Islam, residing in the USA right now? No, of course not.

As for some of his broken promises:
-Trump said he wants to stop intervening in the Middle East, then he bombed Syria.
-Stronger ties with Russia, then says Russia knew about the “gassing” in Syria.
-Wanted to stop world policing, then starts antagonizing Best Korea.
-Was against trade policy with China, then did a complete U-turn.
-Said NATO was obsolete, now says it isn’t.
-He was against Janet Yellen and the Federal Reserve, now says nice things about her.
-Bashed NATO, now says he won’t be pulling out.
-The wall, yeah, that won’t be happening either (he says it will still happen but there’s no reason to believe that, I could be wrong though… but I doubt it).
-Wanted to immediately terminate an Obama-era program shielding undocumented immigrants from deportation, he backed away from that.
-Said he would defund Planned Parenthood because of abortions, now there’s no talk of it.

 

[gracepoole]

Doesn’t realize the threat of Islam? What do you call the travel ban that the left shot down?lets not talk about that right? I think he has assessed the the threat of Radical Islamic Terrorism correctly. The left is doing all they can with the media to stop him.

Whoops! Didn’t you hear? It most definitely *wasn’t *a Muslim ban.

 

[dmelosi]

Oh right, when he decided to attack Assad, which resulted in this jihadwatch.org/2017/04/jihadis-cheer-trumps-missile-strike-on-syria , his so called travel ban doesn’t even include Saudi Arabia, his picks for the administration wasn’t so great, either:

jihadwatch.org/2017/02/mcmaster-tells-nsc-staff-that-label-radical-islamic-terrorism-not-helpful-because-terrorists-are-un-islamic

jihadwatch.org/2017/05/mcmaster-trump-will-call-for-muslim-leaders-to-promote-a-peaceful-vision-of-islam

jihadwatch.org/2017/02/nsa-mcmaster-islamic-state-uses-perverted-interpretation-of-religion

You also hear of Muslims being arrested every day because of terror plots in USA. Is Trump doing anything against the universities, radical groups, and the over 3.5 million Muslims promoting leftism/Islam, residing in the USA right now? No, of course not.

As for some of his broken promises:
-Trump said he wants to stop intervening in the Middle East, then he bombed Syria.
-Stronger ties with Russia, then says Russia knew about the “gassing” in Syria.
-Wanted to stop world policing, then starts antagonizing Best Korea.
-Was against trade policy with China, then did a complete U-turn.
-Said NATO was obsolete, now says it isn’t.
-He was against Janet Yellen and the Federal Reserve, now says nice things about her.
-Bashed NATO, now says he won’t be pulling out.
-The wall, yeah, that won’t be happening either (he says it will still happen but there’s no reason to believe that, I could be wrong though… but I doubt it).
-Wanted to immediately terminate an Obama-era program shielding undocumented immigrants from deportation, he backed away from that.
-Said he would defund Planned Parenthood because of abortions, now there’s no talk of it.

You have listed a list of things, most not promises. I asked a question for you to list broken promises and you went on a MSM talking points rant. Let’s do it this way, list 1 broken promise and discuss that one.

 

[Miles_Christi7]

You have listed a list of things, most not promises. I asked a question for you to list broken promises and you went on a MSM talking points rant. Let’s do it this way, list 1 broken promise and discuss that one.

Your denial is astonishing. If you’re not even gonna comment on the factual things I stated, then I don’t need to waste my time on you.

It’s fine to like a leader, but if you just blindly follow said leader, then you need to wake up.

 

[dmelosi]

Your denial is astonishing. If you’re not even gonna comment on the factual things I stated, then I don’t need to waste my time on you.

It’s fine to like a leader, but if you just blindly follow said leader, then you need to wake up.

Now wait, I asked for a broken promise. List one.

 

[Miles_Christi7]

Now wait, I asked for a broken promise. List one.

Clean your glasses, and read the post again.

 

[philipl]

Online sales only account for 8% of the sales at physical retail stores.

Most if not all the stores you posted have been in trouble for years and years and years. Sears has had both feet in the grave for decades. JCP the same.

 

[dmelosi]

Clean your glasses, and read the post again.

Pick your best one, then let’s discuss that one. And actually, I did just now clean my glasses.

 

[TMC]

Now wait, I asked for a broken promise. List one.

There are many, but here are two that are hard to deny: defunding Planned Parenthood, and declaring China a currency manipulator. He just signed a budget fully funding Planned Parenthood, and also said that he will not declare China a currency manipulator. Those are simple binary flips.

 

[dmelosi]

There are many, but here are two that are hard to deny: defunding Planned Parenthood, and declaring China a currency manipulator. He just signed a budget fully funding Planned Parenthood, and also said that he will not declare China a currency manipulator. Those are simple binary flips.

Let’s take defunding planned parenthood first.
If he defunds planned parenthood a year from now would you declare that he now fulfilled his promise?
Or is the time limit before it is considered a broken promise 100 days? What time limit do you impose or is that already passed?

I did a search to find out what he has done that is what is considered anti-abortion… here is what I found…
Trump reverses abortion policy for aid to NGOs
cnn.com/2017/01/23/politics/trump-mexico-city-policy/

The Mexico Policy.

Have to go with grandson on field trip, so will have to finish later, will be on phone.

 

[TMC]

Let’s take defunding planned parenthood first.
If he defunds planned parenthood a year from now would you declare that he now fulfilled his promise?
Or is the time limit before it is considered a broken promise 100 days? What time limit do you impose or is that already passed?

I did a search to find out what he has done that is what is considered anti-abortion… here is what I found…
Trump reverses abortion policy for aid to NGOs
cnn.com/2017/01/23/politics/trump-mexico-city-policy/

The Mexico Policy.

Have to go with grandson on field trip, so will have to finish later, will be on phone.

He promised to defund Planned Parenthood immediately. He did not. That is a broken promise, even if he does it eventually. But given that he did not do it his first year, why would you think he would do it his second year?

You asked for a single broken promise, I gave you two very clear ones. There are many more, but these two are certainly undeniable.

 

[ProVobis]

Those who didn’t vote for him probably didn’t care much for his promises whether he fulfills them or not. Example: the Mexican Wall, replacement of Janet Yellen.

 

[Michael68]

Your denial is astonishing. If you’re not even gonna comment on the factual things I stated, then I don’t need to waste my time on you.

It’s fine to like a leader, but if you just blindly follow said leader, then you need to wake up.

When did his presidency end? Its only been a few months. How in the hell can you say he has broken promises? What, because they are not on your silly timeline? Why is Gitmo still operating?

 

[TMC]

Those who didn’t vote for him probably didn’t care much for his promises whether he fulfills them or not. Example: the Mexican Wall, replacement of Janet Yellen.

I didn’t vote for him and I do care if he fulfills his promises - I hope he breaks most of them, because most of them would not be good for the country. Some few would be good, and I hope he keeps those.

But presumably those that did vote for him did so because they thought most of his promises would be good for the country, so I would have thought they would be upset when he breaks those promises.