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Exiled_Child
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It’s a very encouraging article, and a very encouraging gesture on the part of French Muslims.
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pepipop
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ClearWater
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Very beautiful gesture.
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ComplineSanFran
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It makes my heart glad to hear this.
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adamhovey1988
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Well, I am glad. I sometimes go to French Catholic websites, and I have noticed that many of the people being baptized, are not only adults, they are former Muslims. Now, of course, if someone choses to continue being Muslim and live a peaceful co-existence with their non-Muslim neighbours, that’s okay, though I personally would prefer everyone were Christian. I have a close Muslim friend that has gone to Mass with me. He was actually very respectful, and is horrified by groups like ISIL. Here in America, I feel like there are two extremes, people who believe almost all Muslims are terrorists, and people who believe almost none are. Sadly, some are, and the ones that aren’t are not sympathetic. I appreciate the Muslims of France doing this.
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Rosebud77
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Thank you. Here in ireland there is appalling racist hostility expressed; “even” to a UK ite like me!" We have a few Muslims locally;I see them in shops and always have a smile and a greeting… Women with just eyes peeping out … And a group , one woman and 3 men came to my market stall to make peace over the rosaries, saying they have them in their homes… At this level we can make and keep peace… Nothing new in this in Ireland; I lived in a border towm once where there were huge efforts to unite north and south.
Here the more open attitide is that we are all going to be murdered in our beds. Sad
The French solidarity bears hope
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Rose71
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I was really pleased to read about the actions of the French Muslims today too.
I’m in England and not far from a town with quite a high Muslim population. A few years ago, I ordered a taxi and the driver was a young Muslim man, maybe a few years younger than me. We got chatting and he asked me if I was married.
Ironically, I actually felt more comfortable explaining my beliefs to a Muslim of Asian origin than a white man. I felt I’d be at least understood for telling it like it was! I said, “Actually, I’m still single. I’m a practicing Catholic and I don’t believe in sex before marriage, or IVF or abortion, so it’s pretty hard finding a man who shares my views around here, but there are some things I’m just not prepared to compromise on!”
My Muslim friend (I felt we were friends by the end of the journey) said he admired me for my beliefs and explained how, as a Muslim growing up in the same part of the world, it was really hard to keep to his beliefs and his family’s traditions. He said his wife is white British and she’s now converted to Islam, but before they married, he’d slept with her and his father had been very angry and told him he was doing wrong.
However, on the day they married, he welcomed his new daughter in law into the family and advised his son that he had to do all he could to love and protect his new wife. According to Islam, as a husband, he did not have permission to bend one hair on her head without her consent and his dad reminded him of this fact!
He also told me a parable about a prostitute who gave a drink of water to a dying beggar before dying herself. On the same day, a Muslim cleric who had been a good man all his life died and was shocked to find her in Heaven. He was reminded by Allah that no matter who you are, or what you have done in the past, true repentance and acts of kindness can save you. Not 100% in line with the Catholic Faith, but very similar in many ways to other Christian denominations.
We had a really interesting discussion about the common ground between Christianity and Islam and our experiences growing up (his as a Muslim of Pakistani origin and mine as the daughter of an Irish immigrant father and an equally traditionally Catholic mother)
I have found myself thinking of my friend many times recently, because his parting shot when we reached the station was to wish me well, encourage me to stick with my beliefs and promise to pray that I’d find a good man who respected me and my faith.
I wonder how he feels now? I was left trying to work out the probability of a white, British taxi driver of a similar age being able to speak so kindly and confidently about his faithconfused or to have reacted as he did when I decided to just be straight about the reasons for my then single status.
I try to remember my taxi driver in my prayers because that day he restored my faith in decency and respect for others. I can only imagine his grief at what ISIS are doing to Islam!
I’m in England and not far from a town with quite a high Muslim population. A few years ago, I ordered a taxi and the driver was a young Muslim man, maybe a few years younger than me. We got chatting and he asked me if I was married.
Ironically, I actually felt more comfortable explaining my beliefs to a Muslim of Asian origin than a white man. I felt I’d be at least understood for telling it like it was! I said, “Actually, I’m still single. I’m a practicing Catholic and I don’t believe in sex before marriage, or IVF or abortion, so it’s pretty hard finding a man who shares my views around here, but there are some things I’m just not prepared to compromise on!”
My Muslim friend (I felt we were friends by the end of the journey) said he admired me for my beliefs and explained how, as a Muslim growing up in the same part of the world, it was really hard to keep to his beliefs and his family’s traditions. He said his wife is white British and she’s now converted to Islam, but before they married, he’d slept with her and his father had been very angry and told him he was doing wrong.
However, on the day they married, he welcomed his new daughter in law into the family and advised his son that he had to do all he could to love and protect his new wife. According to Islam, as a husband, he did not have permission to bend one hair on her head without her consent and his dad reminded him of this fact!
He also told me a parable about a prostitute who gave a drink of water to a dying beggar before dying herself. On the same day, a Muslim cleric who had been a good man all his life died and was shocked to find her in Heaven. He was reminded by Allah that no matter who you are, or what you have done in the past, true repentance and acts of kindness can save you. Not 100% in line with the Catholic Faith, but very similar in many ways to other Christian denominations.
We had a really interesting discussion about the common ground between Christianity and Islam and our experiences growing up (his as a Muslim of Pakistani origin and mine as the daughter of an Irish immigrant father and an equally traditionally Catholic mother)
I have found myself thinking of my friend many times recently, because his parting shot when we reached the station was to wish me well, encourage me to stick with my beliefs and promise to pray that I’d find a good man who respected me and my faith.I wonder how he feels now? I was left trying to work out the probability of a white, British taxi driver of a similar age being able to speak so kindly and confidently about his faith
confused or to have reacted as he did when I decided to just be straight about the reasons for my then single status.I try to remember my taxi driver in my prayers because that day he restored my faith in decency and respect for others. I can only imagine his grief at what ISIS are doing to Islam!
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LordHaveMercy
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It’s unfortunate that Mass is being treated as a time to resolve human political issues and not a time to worship Jesus. Surely there are other hours in the day that these meetings could take place? Can Jesus have just 1 hour of our time?
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Rosebud77
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??? This solidarity is not political. Period. It is a heartfelt meeting and that surely is the heart of the mass and our faith.
Jesus is smiling at the mass that day. They ar emeeting at the point that means most to them, at the place too where the murder took place, Entirely right and wonderful and of Jesus. Reading it brought tears to my eyes and hope to my heart. Cannot believe your post especially the last sentence
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Rosebud77
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Your post has brought tears to my eyes’THANK YOU . I needed that just nowI was really pleased to read about the actions of the French Muslims today too.
I’m in England and not far from a town with quite a high Muslim population. A few years ago, I ordered a taxi and the driver was a young Muslim man, maybe a few years younger than me. We got chatting and he asked me if I was married.
Ironically, I actually felt more comfortable explaining my beliefs to a Muslim of Asian origin than a white man. I felt I’d be at least understood for telling it like it was! I said, “Actually, I’m still single. I’m a practicing Catholic and I don’t believe in sex before marriage, or IVF or abortion, so it’s pretty hard finding a man who shares my views around here, but there are some things I’m just not prepared to compromise on!”
My Muslim friend (I felt we were friends by the end of the journey) said he admired me for my beliefs and explained how, as a Muslim growing up in the same part of the world, it was really hard to keep to his beliefs and his family’s traditions. He said his wife is white British and she’s now converted to Islam, but before they married, he’d slept with her and his father had been very angry and told him he was doing wrong.
However, on the day they married, he welcomed his new daughter in law into the family and advised his son that he had to do all he could to love and protect his new wife. According to Islam, as a husband, he did not have permission to bend one hair on her head without her consent and his dad reminded him of this fact!
He also told me a parable about a prostitute who gave a drink of water to a dying beggar before dying herself. On the same day, a Muslim cleric who had been a good man all his life died and was shocked to find her in Heaven. He was reminded by Allah that no matter who you are, or what you have done in the past, true repentance and acts of kindness can save you. Not 100% in line with the Catholic Faith, but very similar in many ways to other Christian denominations.
We had a really interesting discussion about the common ground between Christianity and Islam and our experiences growing up (his as a Muslim of Pakistani origin and mine as the daughter of an Irish immigrant father and an equally traditionally Catholic mother)
I wonder how he feels now? I was left trying to work out the probability of a white, British taxi driver of a similar age being able to speak so kindly and confidently about his faith
I try to remember my taxi driver in my prayers because that day he restored my faith in decency and respect for others. I can only imagine his grief at what ISIS are doing to Islam!
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Padres1969
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You don’t think Christ would be pleased to see people of different backgrounds an faiths coming together in peace specifically at a time when he’s being worshiped
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Contra_Mundum_1
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These Muslims belong to the Ahmadiyya sect that is considered to not practice true Islam by the great majority of muslims. This sect is persecuted by other Muslims because they tolerate other religions and openly express their friendship with them. I’m afraid that this nice story does not really show what true Islam supports. These people are just another oppresed group of the religion of peace. Sorry to burst the ecumenical bubble.
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HolyCrusader007
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In addition to Ahmadiyaa Muslims, Many Sunni and Shia Muslims respect the Catholic Church.
Last week, with little fanfare and under heavy security, an historic meeting took place in Rome which marked a turning point in interfaith relations. Inside the 16th century Casina Pio IV villa, home to the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences, seven clerics representing over five billion people overcame lingering traditions of suspicion to commit to the eradication of modern day slavery by the year 2020. The summit concluded with the signing of a declaration that condemns slavery as a crime against humanity.
huffingtonpost.co.uk/sayed-mahdi-almodarresi/pope-ayatollah_b_6288444.html
Pope Francis became the head of the Vatican in 2013 and since then has repeatedly stressed on improving relations with the Muslim authority and condemned comments that equalise terrorism with Islam.
ABC reported the Pope as saying in an earlier interview, that “The idea of conquest is inherent to the soul of Islam,” and added that Christianity had the same missionary goal in its “Great Commission” where Jesus told his disciples to “go and make disciples of all nations.”
The Pope has also set an example by providing shelter to Muslim refugees escaping the war in Syria.
ibtimes.co.uk/pope-francis-meets-grand-imam-egypt-vatican-1561632
VATICAN CITY (CNS) – Meeting with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani at the Vatican, Pope Francis told him he had high hopes for peace.
And while Pope Francis usually asks those he meets for their prayers, the Shiite cleric pre-empted the pope’s request and said, “I ask you to pray for me.”
catholicnews.com/services/englishnews/2016/pope-tells-iran-president-he-has-high-hopes-for-peace.cfm
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LordHaveMercy
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I think Christ was very clear on his stance about meaningless gestures.You don’t think Christ would be pleased to see people of different backgrounds an faiths coming together in peace specifically at a time when he’s being worshiped
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graciew
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And how about those Masses people who love us attend in all respect out of love for us and our loved ones?
Isn t Jesús having an hour of our time an inclusive reality?
I am not saying an " all inclusive" throwing " cupcakes" against the walls.
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otjm
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You are right about Christ, but wrong in your judgement. That, and you don’t really seem to accept what the Church teaches about other faiths.I think Christ was very clear on his stance about meaningless gestures.
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