Husband clearly favors youngest child

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I’m actually on the autism spectrum I’m not sure what you mean by sensory seeking since I generally want to avoid stuff like that
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Your husband holding the older three children to different (higher, stricter) standards than the youngest is bound to cause issues between the siblings. Does your husband want all of his children to be close and get along? If he does, then he needs to hold ALL of them to the SAME standards, and punish them in the same way for the same offenses, etc.

I can tell you from personal experience that favoritism helped ruin my relationship with my sister. My sister is most definitely the favorite. Always has been and always will be. She was allowed to do A LOT more than I ever was, and it was clear that my mother favored (and still does) favor my sister. It has put a huge wedge between us. My parents are still playing favorites to this day and they have done way more harm than good, in terms of my relationship with my sister.
Right.

The thing for parents to remember is that, in the natural course of events, we’re going to die a good 25-30 years before our children do. The longest familial relationship that is possible (on average) is the one between siblings, so it’s vital to make an effort to protect and cultivate the sibling relationship.

It’s no good giving our children siblings if they never talk as adults.
 
I try to instill the importance of always being there for each other, loving one another, and maintaining a relationship that will last beyond my lifetime and my husband’s.

Luckily, my children have a good relationship as they spend the majority of their lives with each other due to homeschooling and I’m able to give each child individual attention hoping that what they learn will offset our failures as parents. Sure there are times when there is sibling rivalry, but they understand that I’m an “equal opportunity employer” and will punish without prejudice.

As far as what is sensory seeking behavior – our son will repeat sayings over and over again; he will replay videos constantly; raise the volume full blast; continually ask for things until he gets an answer and even then will continue repeatedly; has great difficulty when having to stay quiet throughout Mass and needs to constantly be redirected to be silent, etc.

OTOH, my husband cannot tolerate ANYTHING repetitive, even soft whispering of the same words; or be asked things constantly; or have to tell our special needs son to be quiet an unending amount of times, etc.

These two extremes can be so trying that I don’t see an end in sight – trying to keep my son occupied or redirected so that he doesn’t drive my husband absolutely mad.

Peace.

+JMJ+
 
You husband needs professional mental health services, something is seriously wrong with him.

You need to consider the level of emotional and psychological abuse he is inflicting on them and make a decision regarding their safety, which may require physical separation from this man.

This is beyond “playing favorites”. Something is terribly wrong here and I suggest you stop standing by and allowing this abuse to continue.
Absolutely!
OP, TAKE THIS TO HEART.
 
How old is the youngest?is she a toddler or preschooler? Is he somehow defending her because of her age-or beecause he thinks the boys are too rough or something?
If it is he should explain this.

Does your husband tease with this mocking with your teen or is he serious? If it is teasing it still does not make it right because kids, especially younger ones, take things literally. He needs to know this.

I am trying to figure out why he does this other than favoritism.
 
You husband needs professional mental health services, something is seriously wrong with him.

You need to consider the level of **emotional and psychological abuse **he is inflicting on them and make a decision regarding their safety, which **may require physical separation **from this man.

This is beyond “playing favorites”. Something is terribly wrong here and I suggest you stop standing by and allowing this abuse to continue.
:hmmm: I didn’t see “abuse” in anything the op wrote, while you did. I saw stressed mom and dad. That’s how I read it any way. (I’ve had lots of experience with wives complaining about their husbands and far, far less experience with abuse.) The original poster used the word, “taunt” without giving any example of it and described that the other children are “forced to be submissive” to the youngest, (again with no example provided and no age of the youngest or the age discrepancies given.) She said her husband has “no patience for her autistic child’s behavior” but didn’t say what he does. (Walk out of the room? Explode into violent fits? It’s not clear from what she wrote.) Whatever is all going on, it’s not an ideal situation to be sure, but it may be that the original poster used more dramatic words because she is caught up in the situation.

The whole family could probably benefit from outside help. The original poster says that she’s lashing out at her husband. They’re dealing with one child who has autism, (which can be difficult on any parent and family), in addition to three other children of unknown ages. Exhausted parents are sometimes overly indulgent or overly critical–or both. These parents might both be trying ineffective methods to correct what they perceive to be the problems. An outside counselor who can see more specifically what’s going would likely be very helpful to assess if the situation is abuse and if safety is a concern. Hopefully this is just a situation of two parents needing to discuss their very different parenting styles and learn more effective ones.

To the op–is your husband Catholic? Can you find a good priest to help assess the situation and possibly ask for a referral to a good Catholic counselor? The Confessional is sometimes a good place to start. (It helps to look at what we personally are doing wrong when family dynamics get out of whack, and plus confession is free and usually comes with absolution.) Or is there someone you’ve worked with for your son’s autism who might be able to suggest a counselor who will be respectful of your Catholic faith? We can’t see the extent of the problems from our computer screens.
 
It is abusive.
My late husband clearly favored our eldest. The younger daughter could do NOTHING correctly.
Step back from the obvious abuse of demeaning his younger daughter.

The older one suffered for years after his suicide from the guilt she had for always being picked, always getting the better gifts, always getting praise, always put in the middle of his side-choosing.
She cried and cried, knowing that her little sister was hurting every time he made the elder the clear favorite. She simply could not enjoy being “on top”. She felt she never earned rights to praise. She was just the default, less horrible daughter.
no bueno. :nope:

Mental abuse is real and horrible.
 
Your husband holding the older three children to different (higher, stricter) standards than the youngest is bound to cause issues between the siblings. Does your husband want all of his children to be close and get along? If he does, then he needs to hold ALL of them to the SAME standards, and punish them in the same way for the same offenses, etc.

I can tell you from personal experience that favoritism helped ruin my relationship with my sister. My sister is most definitely the favorite. Always has been and always will be. She was allowed to do A LOT more than I ever was, and it was clear that my mother favored (and still does) favor my sister. It has put a huge wedge between us. My parents are still playing favorites to this day and they have done way more harm than good, in terms of my relationship with my sister. I could go on and on about the things that they have done to show favoritism towards my sister, and vocally supported my sister not having to communicate with me if she didn’t want to. My sister and I have not spoken in years and I don’t see it changing.
I did want to mention something in connection with the above.

My next-youngest sister and I came from a very dysfunctional household. One of the more egregious dysfunctions was that I was “dad’s kid,” while my sister was “mom’s kid.” Mind you, we’re full siblings. It’s that personality-wise, I got along best with dad, and she with mom. That’s not too uncommon, or even a bad thing. What was a problem was that both parents recognized and encouraged this mindset–our mother by physically abusing me and actively demonstrating how much she loathed me, and our father by belittling my sister and being nasty to her. At the same time, our mother made a big deal as often as possible about how beautiful, intelligent, talented, etc my sister was (and how I wasn’t), while Dad spent a lot of one-on-one time with me but never with my sister. Dad wasn’t around as much, and Mom was careful not to be really egregious in her treatment of me while he was, so got the brunt of a lot of this stuff: if she was frustrated, she’d hit me; if she was having a bad day, it was my fault; if I didn’t understand directions or move fast enough, it was because I was deliberately defying her, not because I didn’t understand, was a bit paralyzed by perfectionism, or simply didn’t pick up on social norms as quickly or intuitively as my sister.

As you might imagine, my sister and I had a very rocky relationship when we were kids and teens: we hated each other. My sister, though younger, tended to taunt me into a foaming rage, and then, if I struck out, would threaten to tell our mother until I groveled enough to persuade her not to, as telling our mother would mean I’d get a beating. Once we were old enough that physical abuse wasn’t an option, she could just tell our mother that I’d said something mean, and that would get me punished severely, even if she had said the same thing to me. On the other hand, I could generally fight back by getting Dad to “cancel” my grounding/extra chores/whatever and by getting him to get really angry at my sister for doing this stuff and scream at her about how if she were just a nice, easygoing person like me, he’d like her as much, too.

It was bad, and it set us up for a very nasty, resentful dynamic.

After we were separated for years, though–didn’t see each other for about six years and spoke rarely–we were able to meet on more equal footing as adults, especially once we had done a lot of work on ourselves via counseling (her) and a support group and program (me). As it happens, thanks to us both recognizing the serious flaws in both our parents (even the favorite ones) and having that cooling-off period, we’re now as close as sisters could be. Neither of us have contact with our parents anymore, which is for the best for both of us now. When some sort of crisis arises with them (our mother drunk driving, or dad in the hospital with something serious), we handle it together as a team. I can only attribute all that to grace and to our both finding some very good people to help us through, but it did happen, and for that I’m more grateful than I can possibly express.

So, long story short: it is possible, long-term, for siblings set up in this sort of relationship to end up having a good, close relationship later on. It will take a lot of hard work on both parts, though, and nothing is guaranteed. Parents should never try to create that adversarial dynamic, of course. It usually does a great deal of harm, and no good at all. I think I can say with certainty that if it weren’t for grace and some good, wise people, my sister and I probably wouldn’t be speaking at all, and each would still see the other as a monster rather than as an inevitably flawed kid placed in some very nasty circumstances.
 
It is abusive.
My late husband clearly favored our eldest. The younger daughter could do NOTHING correctly.
Step back from the obvious abuse of demeaning his younger daughter.

The older one suffered for years after his suicide from the guilt she had for always being picked, always getting the better gifts, always getting praise, always put in the middle of his side-choosing.
She cried and cried, knowing that her little sister was hurting every time he made the elder the clear favorite. She simply could not enjoy being “on top”. She felt she never earned rights to praise. She was just the default, less horrible daughter.
no bueno. :nope:

Mental abuse is real and horrible.
My sister, as I mentioned above, was something of the favorite in our house, as our mother was the dominant personality there.

Until we started really talking years later, I thought that as a teen she never cared about all the stuff I went through from our mother: physical abuse, psychological abuse, tricking me into doing things for my sister, and so on. It’s interesting to see the different perspectives of such things later on–casts a whole different light.

I had a going-away party just before I left the house for good. It was miserable; our mother was drunk, I didn’t really have any friends there because, well, I didn’t have any who were my own age, and I spent all afternoon trying to get the house clean, the food prepared and on the table, and deal with all the hostessing stuff plus try to cover up the fact that our mother was completely soused. My sister just went out to the barn with some friends of hers, and didn’t help at all with the arrangements. Back then, I thought it was because she didn’t care.

Later on, she mentioned she’d gone out to the barn (the hayloft was a place that the teens tended to hang out it) because she wanted to have a good cry with a couple of girlfriends about how much my life sucked, how badly I’d been treated, and how miserable everything was, but she couldn’t bring herself to break down in front of me or even tell me that because she’d been so conditioned to treat me badly, and because our dad had taught me to be rude and nasty whenever people showed emotion because he didn’t like to deal with it.

There she was, in pretty new clothes, a cute hairdo, lots of friends, always popular. There I was, in some old clothes of my moms and my hair chopped into gawdawful style that I’d scraped together $12 to pay a stylist who specialized in cutting old women’s hair to cut because that’s all I could afford and our mother would never have given me money for a haircut. And each one of us was sure the other would never understand or be able to show kindness to that person because that’s how we’d been brought up, and we each saw the other as a complete monster.

Messed. Up.

Thank God for grace and wise, kind people who gave us the direction to having the good relationship we have today.
 
Thank you for coming here and sharing your story.

I read your post three times and I have to admit I am a bit lost. Please, if you would, clarify a few details.

First, how old are your children?

Second, some information you gave is very vague and it makes a difference. When you said your third child was taunted by your husband for “mistakes” it is not clear what you mean by that. Is a mistake forgetting to hang up your jacket for the 10th time or is a mistake making a math error on your homework? You also said that the older children were forced to be submissive to the youngest, that is a bold statement but you didn’t give any examples. What are they forced to do for her?

What sort of discipline does he give your youngest child?

If your husband were here posting, what would his thoughts be? The reason that I ask is because if he is a reasonable man, clearly he thinks he is being fair. Perhaps in some way he is, and in others he isn’t. If you find common ground where you and your husband agree that is a good place to start. If you simply berate your husband telling him he is a bad father I can tell you that not much will change, but you already knew that. Counseling may help but you have to get him to go first, and change takes time.
I apologize if I wasn’t clear. My kids are 15, 13, 11, and 8 yrs old. The mistakes I speak of pertaining to the third child are silly and sometimes careless mistakes like handing him a napkin when he asked for a spoon; or just being absent-minded.

As far as the oldest kids being submissive, it’s more like they are to let her win at games and not be competitive, not argue/fight with her when she doesn’t do her fair share of bedroom cleaning, not talk down to her when she disrespects the older ones, etc. When they want something from him, they send her to ask him as he will usually say yes. (ex. he rolls down car windows and kids get cold – if the older ones (or even I) ask for him to roll them up bcz they’re cold, he will tell them to stop being babies. But if she asks him the same thing, he will immediately roll them up.)

To be quite clear, our youngest child is very eager to please and rarely gets into trouble as she is always trying to clean the table, write us love letters, and is very attentive. She is very smart for her age and cute, to boot. She is very endearing and many people become “soft” when it comes to her. She is a very good girl and I don’t want to take that away from her. My husband’s disciplining of her is verbally reprimanding her at times.

I would consider him to be a reasonable man who is open to talking about things and that’s why I’m at a loss that he finds his behavior acceptable and reasonable. Of course, he would disagree with what I’m posting as he reasons that our youngest is the most behaved and deserves better treatment. He also knows he’s weak as she’s so “cute” and that makes him give in. He says he can’t relate to the oldest as he thinks she has “a screw loose” and that he just can’t stomach having conversations with her. That’s when I go on the defense and tell him that WE have to be the parents who nurture and meet all of our children wherever they are, despite their weaknesses.

Peace.

+JMJ+
 
I apologize if I wasn’t clear. My kids are 15, 13, 11, and 8 yrs old. The mistakes I speak of pertaining to the third child are silly and sometimes careless mistakes like handing him a napkin when he asked for a spoon; or just being absent-minded.

As far as the oldest kids being submissive, it’s more like they are to let her win at games and not be competitive, not argue/fight with her when she doesn’t do her fair share of bedroom cleaning, not talk down to her when she disrespects the older ones, etc. When they want something from him, they send her to ask him as he will usually say yes. (ex. he rolls down car windows and kids get cold – if the older ones (or even I) ask for him to roll them up bcz they’re cold, he will tell them to stop being babies. But if she asks him the same thing, he will immediately roll them up.)

To be quite clear, our youngest child is very eager to please and rarely gets into trouble as she is always trying to clean the table, write us love letters, and is very attentive. She is very smart for her age and cute, to boot. She is very endearing and many people become “soft” when it comes to her. She is a very good girl and I don’t want to take that away from her. My husband’s disciplining of her is verbally reprimanding her at times.

I would consider him to be a reasonable man who is open to talking about things and that’s why I’m at a loss that he finds his behavior acceptable and reasonable. Of course, he would disagree with what I’m posting as he reasons that our youngest is the most behaved and deserves better treatment. He also knows he’s weak as she’s so “cute” and that makes him give in. He says he can’t relate to the oldest as he thinks she has “a screw loose” and that he just can’t stomach having conversations with her. That’s when I go on the defense and tell him that WE have to be the parents who nurture and meet all of our children wherever they are, despite their weaknesses.

Peace.

+JMJ+
I will try not to take up too much of this thread with my backstory, but I will say this. What you describe is, to a much lesser degree, what I experienced with my dad. If someone else wanted him to do something, they’d come to me and ask me to get him to do it. This included my mother.

He also used to say that he didn’t like my younger sister because she talked back to him, and thought she should be in charge. He encouraged her to leave the house for good at fifteen because, in his words, he didn’t want to deal with her any more. Bear in mind, that while not a saint, she was decidedly not a nightmare teen, either. She’d sass back and not listen sometimes. So do most teens. I was too scared of offending the one person who’d protect me from our mother to ever give him backtalk, so he saw me as the “good” kid who always listened and did as she was told.

As I mentioned before, this stuff set us up for a really bad relationship dynamic. Please prioritize sitting down with a good counselor. Your husband may not realize just how poisonous this stuff can be for everyone involved.
 
We are all Catholic and go to Confession weekly if not every other week. I don’t know of any Catholic therapist and I know he would not see one if I asked him.

Aside from this situation, he is a good man and good provider. He allows me to stay home and homeschool and agrees that is what best fits our family. But this is causing me to resent him so much that it’s hard for me to see the good in him.

Peace.

+JMJ+
 
I apologize if I wasn’t clear. My kids are 15, 13, 11, and 8 yrs old. The mistakes I speak of pertaining to the third child are silly and sometimes careless mistakes like handing him a napkin when he asked for a spoon; or just being absent-minded.

As far as the oldest kids being submissive, it’s more like they are to let her win at games and not be competitive, not argue/fight with her when she doesn’t do her fair share of bedroom cleaning, not talk down to her when she disrespects the older ones, etc. When they want something from him, they send her to ask him as he will usually say yes. (ex. he rolls down car windows and kids get cold – if the older ones (or even I) ask for him to roll them up bcz they’re cold, he will tell them to stop being babies. But if she asks him the same thing, he will immediately roll them up.)

To be quite clear, our youngest child is very eager to please and rarely gets into trouble as she is always trying to clean the table, write us love letters, and is very attentive. She is very smart for her age and cute, to boot. She is very endearing and many people become “soft” when it comes to her. She is a very good girl and I don’t want to take that away from her. My husband’s disciplining of her is verbally reprimanding her at times.

I would consider him to be a reasonable man who is open to talking about things and that’s why I’m at a loss that he finds his behavior acceptable and reasonable. Of course, he would disagree with what I’m posting as he reasons that our youngest is the most behaved and deserves better treatment. He also knows he’s weak as she’s so “cute” and that makes him give in. He says he can’t relate to the oldest as he thinks she has “a screw loose” and that he just can’t stomach having conversations with her. That’s when I go on the defense and tell him that WE have to be the parents who nurture and meet all of our children wherever they are, despite their weaknesses.

Peace.

+JMJ+
I’m not sure I see any problem with your husband here. He’s being a father to his little girl. The older children are able to be more independent - get their own spoon, etc. The bit about ‘quit being babies’ - also seems like a normal father, it’s not like he’ll let them freeze. The youngest is probably the least able to fend for herself, so daddy does what a father should.

To be honest, I’m surprise that these ‘issues’ are even being mentioned - they seem minor and not even worth mentioning, except maybe in passing or even jokingly.
Aside from this situation, he is a good man and good provider. He allows me to stay home and homeschool and agrees that is what best fits our family. But this is causing me to resent him so much that it’s hard for me to see the good in him.
You resent him for favoring his youngest child? And this causes you not to see the good in him?? It seems to me the problem is yours, not his. Maybe you should do therapy alone and find out why a tiny not-even-flaw causes you so much resentment - do you resent having to stay home with them while he works outside the home?
 
We are all Catholic and go to Confession weekly if not every other week. I don’t know of any Catholic therapist and I know he would not see one if I asked him.

Aside from this situation, he is a good man and good provider. He allows me to stay home and homeschool and agrees that is what best fits our family. But this is causing me to resent him so much that it’s hard for me to see the good in him.

Peace.

+JMJ+
Then you go. Ask your pastor for a recommendation.

Homeschooling is great in many ways. It won’t, however, keep the majority of your children from hating–yes, I said hating–your husband, your youngest, and, yes, you once they’re out of the house, if not sooner. This behavior is seen by the kids as abandonment by both parents, on his part for refusing to parent, and on yours for not helping deal with the issues between them. My sister was a hurting, confused teenager, and Dad just didn’t want to deal with it. She’s spoken to him once in the last ten years. And she sees our mother, who had always favored her but deferred to Dad if he started yelling, as having allowed this to happen. If anything, she probably resents her more, and to our mother’s surprise, has spoken to her about once in the last decade, too.
 
I am so sorry this is happening in your family. It must be very painful for you, as a mother, to witness such obvious abuse and harm and yet feel powerless to stop it or protect your children.

It is too bad there is no one around who can flat out ask your husband why he is such a lousy father to his children and what he is hoping to accomplish by treating them with such disdain.

My prayers are with you.
 
It could be that your husband really just has a problem with the teenage years. But I don’t think his coping method is going to help. Counseling isn’t just for “big” problems, it’s for smaller ones too, so they don’t become big ones.

Sometimes I think my 2yo has a “screw loose,” too, but I realize that a lot of what is frustrating about his behavior really is just normal developmental stuff, and I have to learn how to cope with that while also guiding my kid to be, maybe, a little less of a pill at times. 😛

I wonder how your husband will feel when your other kids go through their version of the teenage years. Will he want to write all of them off?

Also, it seems to me that he wants your older children to treat the 8 year old more like she was 3 or 4. She’s not a baby. Eight years old is almost “big kid.” She may be the baby of the family, but she won’t be little forever.
 
I agree with the others who mentioned mental abuse. My parents, especially my father, always seemed to take the opportunity to belittle, shame, and criticize me. I never heard my younger sister shamed or criticized like I was. If anything happened when we were younger, it was always my fault, because I was supposed to know better because I was older. My father let me know how useless I was, and how I would never be anything to anyone, and how I was irresponsible (when I really was responsible - most of the time).

Even if my sister told me her side of the story now, I would probably not believe her, since she has lied to me. For instance, my sister had a savings account and she was I think 17 at the time. Well, she basically took money out of the account to have an abortion. This was uncovered through my mom cleaning out my sister’s closet (my mom did this for my sister on a regular basis). My parents even called her home to discuss it with her and I called her ahead of time to let her know it was about the $$. At that point, I didn’t know about the abortion. She flat out lied to my parents about sleeping with her boyfriend and the test, etc. When I think about it, I am still very angry because she used me to do something that abhorrent. So, I don’t think I could ever trust my sister again. Ever!! I know that sounds bad, but that is how I feel.

I am currently not talking to my parents, as someone else has said that they aren’t talking to theirs either. I am tired of their favoritism, excuses, etc. Truth be known, I probably should have stopped talking to my parents YEARS ago! Guilt was really the only thing keeping me in touch with them. They defend their actions, even when I tell them how it looks as favoritism, how it hurts me, etc. The last time I talked to them we had an argument because I told my mother how I felt about a number of things that were bothering me over time. I told them I thought it was time to take a break. I have been wanting to do it, but decided to finally do it now.
 
My kids are 15, 13, 11, and 8 yrs old. The mistakes I speak of pertaining to the third child are silly and sometimes careless mistakes like handing him a napkin when he asked for a spoon; or just being absent-minded
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Has your “absent-minded” third child ever been evaluated for any learning and/or attention disorder, etc.? You already know you have another child with autism, so there’s family history for “stuff”. While it’s not entirely uncommon for 11 year old boys to be silly or careless, this child’s behavior bothers your husband a great deal. I can’t give medical advice, but I will tell you I’d personally explore further to make sure I wasn’t overlooking something.
As far as the oldest kids being submissive, it’s more like they are to let her win at games and not be competitive, not argue/fight with her when she doesn’t do her fair share of bedroom cleaning, not talk down to her when she disrespects the older ones, etc. When they want something from him, they send her to ask him as he will usually say yes. (ex. he rolls down car windows and kids get cold – if the older ones (or even I) ask for him to roll them up bcz they’re cold, he will tell them to stop being babies. But if she asks him the same thing, he will immediately roll them up.)
I’m still not convinced by what you wrote here that your husband is being unreasonable. How much is the “fair share” for an 8 year old to clean compared to a 15 year old? And who decides what’s “fair”? Letting a younger child “win” at games is something we’ve done for younger children, but my older kids never make a big deal of it. There’s a big difference between an 11 year old boy and an 8 year old girl. The older children going full-force in competitive games when there’s that much age difference doesn’t sound fair either–they’re older, bigger, stronger and smarter. Trying to find the happy medium of dividing chores and evening the playing field among broad age ranges can be tricky. Yours wouldn’t be the first family where the youngest child is accused of being the favorite. And it sounds like your older children are “working the system” by sending baby-sister to ask daddy when they want something.
To be quite clear, our youngest child is very eager to please and rarely gets into trouble as she is always trying to clean the table, write us love letters, and is very attentive. She is very smart for her age and cute, to boot. She is very endearing and many people become “soft” when it comes to her. She is a very good girl and I don’t want to take that away from her. My husband’s disciplining of her is verbally reprimanding her at times. I would consider him to be a reasonable man who is open to talking about things and that’s why I’m at a loss that he finds his behavior acceptable and reasonable. Of course, he would disagree with what I’m posting as he reasons that our youngest is the most behaved and deserves better treatment. He also knows he’s weak as she’s so “cute” and that makes him give in.
Your youngest sounds delightful. Some children are easier to parent and may only need gentle verbal discipline. :curtsey:
He says he can’t relate to the oldest as he thinks she has “a screw loose” and that he just can’t stomach having conversations with her. That’s when I go on the defense and tell him that WE have to be the parents who nurture and meet all of our children wherever they are, despite their weaknesses.
I wonder how many grown men can relate to 15 year old girls? You were a 15 year old girl once, but your husband never was. He probably couldn’t relate to them even when he was 15. Maybe he couldn’t talk to them then either. Not knowing any of you, perhaps ask yourself if there really anything to his assessment that she’s got “a screw loose” or if he’s just unable to relate to teenage girls. You might be able to help him understand teenage girls better if you put down the defenses, and use some of the charm that your eight year old must have inherited from somewhere. Flirting to get what you want from your husband is probably going to be far more effective than fighting 😉

Family dynamics are interesting. With this new information that you provided, I still don’t see “abuse”–I see imperfect parenting. And forgive me if I’m reacting too much to what you wrote about having one child with autism, but I have an extended family member with autism and have seen from the outside some of that family’s dynamics. Sometimes other children’s issues like dyslexia or adhd get overlooked because their problems aren’t quite so obvious as autism. And sometimes one or both of the parents something going on, (like depression or milder forms of autism or something else.) Things sometimes run in families. I’m trying to give family advice and not medical advice, but the fact that your husband is set off by a couple of your other children would have me asking myself questions.
 
Also, it seems to me that he wants your older children to treat the 8 year old more like she was 3 or 4. She’s not a baby. Eight years old is almost “big kid.” She may be the baby of the family, but she won’t be little forever.
Exactly. An 8-year-old is (in the grand scheme of things) a big kid.
 
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Has your “absent-minded” third child ever been evaluated for any learning and/or attention disorder, etc.? You already know you have another child with autism, so there’s family history for “stuff”. While it’s not entirely uncommon for 11 year old boys to be silly or careless, this child’s behavior bothers your husband a great deal. I can’t give medical advice, but I will tell you I’d personally explore further to make sure I wasn’t overlooking something. I’m still not convinced by what you wrote here that your husband is being unreasonable. How much is the “fair share” for an 8 year old to clean compared to a 15 year old? And who decides what’s “fair”? Letting a younger child “win” at games is something we’ve done for younger children, but my older kids never make a big deal of it. There’s a big difference between an 11 year old boy and an 8 year old girl. The older children going full-force in competitive games when there’s that much age difference doesn’t sound fair either–they’re older, bigger, stronger and smarter. Trying to find the happy medium of dividing chores and evening the playing field among broad age ranges can be tricky. Yours wouldn’t be the first family where the youngest child is accused of being the favorite. And it sounds like your older children are “working the system” by sending baby-sister to ask daddy when they want something.

Your youngest sounds delightful. Some children are easier to parent and may only need gentle verbal discipline. :curtsey:

I wonder how many grown men can relate to 15 year old girls? You were a 15 year old girl once, but your husband never was. He probably couldn’t relate to them even when he was 15. Maybe he couldn’t talk to them then either. Not knowing any of you, perhaps ask yourself if there really anything to his assessment that she’s got “a screw loose” or if he’s just unable to relate to teenage girls. You might be able to help him understand teenage girls better if you put down the defenses, and use some of the charm that your eight year old must have inherited from somewhere. Flirting to get what you want from your husband is probably going to be far more effective than fighting 😉

Family dynamics are interesting. With this new information that you provided, I still don’t see “abuse”–I see imperfect parenting. And forgive me if I’m reacting too much to what you wrote about having one child with autism, but I have an extended family member with autism and have seen from the outside some of that family’s dynamics. Sometimes other children’s issues like dyslexia or adhd get overlooked because their problems aren’t quite so obvious as autism. And sometimes one or both of the parents something going on, (like depression or milder forms of autism or something else.) Things sometimes run in families. I’m trying to give family advice and not medical advice, but the fact that your husband is set off by a couple of your other children would have me asking myself questions.
  1. I agree about investigating the absent-mindedness, if that hasn’t already been done.
  2. I would suggest that the 8-year-old can either play WITH a sibling teammate or by herself, but that the siblings not be encouraged to throw games to her. Alternately, make sure and alternate with a game that’s largely chance so that she has a reasonable chance of winning.
  3. Maybe read something together about teen management?
  4. It is quite likely that dad has some autistic features himself. I have some uncomfortable experience myself with dealing with a grandpa in our family with some autistic/OCD features. He has a lot of sensory sensitivity and has no tolerance for normal kid behavior or a normal kid noise level or normal kid mess. Somebody like that doesn’t realize that it’s not the whole world being too messy/loud/etc–that he’s the one with the problem.
It’s a lot easier to deal with somebody like that as a grandpa you see at most a couple weeks a year, rather than dad, who is there almost every night.
 
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