Hydroxychloroquine rated ‘most effective therapy’ by doctors for coronavirus:

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Why not read the paper and dispute what is said rather than saying oh I’m not reading that source.
Don’t have to. It’s marketing BS. Don’t tell me that you read every bit of marketing BS that crosses your path. And of course, the reputation of the source counts. This source doesn’t have a good reputation, and can be safely discounted.

By the way, “ad hominem” doesn’t mean what you think it means.
 
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. . . .Why not get MEDICAL advice direct from MEDICAL professionals??? It’s not that hard.
 
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If shown an article I’ll read it before putting in my two cents. Otherwise, I won’t comment.
 
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The poll found 23% of U.S. medical professionals had prescribed the drug, which has been FDA-approved for malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.
Debate about hydroxychloroquine has raged in the United States since President Trump touted it two weeks ago as a potential “game-changer” in the fight against the deadly pandemic, prompting critics to accuse him of peddling unproven remedies, or “snake oil,” as USA Today put it.
Why are you posting an article from a “newspaper” owned and operated by Sun Myung Moon’s “Unification Church”, AKA the Moonies cult? They are a font of fake news.
You take a valid issue and attempt to completely derail this thread because you don’t like the source.
According to Google (I know, not the most authoritative source) hydroxychloroquine is used to treat malaria.

Without official announcements from medical authorities, I am skeptical of the claim that it works on covid-19.
There is anecdotal evidence of the efficacy of Chloroquine & Hydroxychloroquine. Of course there hasn’t been sufficient time to do comprehensive trials.
It can be worse than nothing for society to adopt this remedy too soon.
  1. There are side-effects that need to be weighed.
  2. There are people who desperately need this drug because of lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. If there is a run on this drug for no reason, these people will suffer seriously.
This is a huge problem. I have been taking HC for the last 5 years and it has been successful in treating some of the symptoms of my illness. There are very few side effects of the drug. Given that for many of us it is used as a long term treatment, we have to be watchful of a couple of things. When you start HC you tend to get a bit nauseous, slight headache, which goes away after a few days.

One significant side effect for those of us who take HC long term, longer than the time to treat Covid 19, is potential damage to the retinas. I must have a retina check every 12 months to ensure my eyes stay healthy. But again this is for long term users, not the few days a Covid 19 patient would be taking it.

As far as availability, it is already a problem. I call my pharmacy two weeks ago to discuss the issue. I use a large mail-order pharmacy and get a 90 day supply. At that time they had no HC in stock and could not say if I would be able to get a refill when one was due. A couple days later I was told they received a large shipment and would refill scripts but my doc would have to justify my need for it and I could only get 30 days.

I get that it can help people get well, I want people to be able get the medication but I also want those of us who take it to continue to get it also.
 
There are side-effects that need to be weighed.
Here we go again with the “better let them die than to try something at all” theory. Hydroxychloroquine has been around for nearly 70 years. Read the information about its safety and efficacy. It’s extremely well-tolerated in most people and side effects are generally minimal, except in a few rare instances. In those types of rare instances, I would expect the doctor to ask the right question to ensure that doesn’t happen. But to continue to argue that we should ask doctors to withhold it because we haven’t fully tested it even though there is mounting evidence every day that people with COVID who take it recover fully the next day, simply because there MIGHT be side effects is completely silly.
https://www.rheumatology.org/I-Am-A/Patient-Caregiver/Treatments/Hydroxychloroquine-Plaquenil
 
I have been taking HC for the last 5 years and it has been successful in treating some of the symptoms of my illness. There are very few side effects of the drug. Given that for many of us it is used as a long term treatment, we have to be watchful of a couple of things. When you start HC you tend to get a bit nauseous, slight headache, which goes away after a few days.

One significant side effect for those of us who take HC long term, longer than the time to treat Covid 19, is potential damage to the retinas. I must have a retina check every 12 months to ensure my eyes stay healthy. But again this is for long term users, not the few days a Covid 19 patient would be taking it.
My wife takes it for R/A and she too has to get retina checks, but she has had no side effects whatsoever, and as you state, it has minimal side effects.

I am too worried she might not get it for her RA. Those people need the drug.

Responding to all the people on here who want 2-year trials for treatment with covid are out of their minds. In emergencies like these, you use the information and tools you have at hand. You don’t have time to mess around. Doctors can review the 70 years worth of evidence on the drug and make a decision with their patient if it is right for them. If there is a chance it could help, that needs to be considered, weighing the risks, but since the risks are generally low, then if the doctor feels that he/she should prescribe off-label, let them. But it shouldn’t be considered a “the solution”, but withholding it when evidence shows it has been helpful, would be detrimental.

We just need to start balancing need here between lupus/RA sufferers and those who with covid who could benefit.
 
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There are side-effects that need to be weighed.
Here we go again with the “better let them die than to try something at all” theory.
My position is not that theory. Intelligent guidelines for the use of this drug say that under certain very dire conditions, when someone is almost certain to die without some sort of treatment, this drug can be given in a controlled setting. That is a far cry from recommending this drug for general prevention, or even for people with mild symptoms.
But to continue to argue that we should ask doctors to withhold it because we haven’t fully tested it even though there is mounting evidence every day that people with COVID who take it recover fully the next day…
When that “mounting evidence” actually is documented, then a change in policy will be in order. I hope it happens.
 
It seems that 95% of the media and 50% of the US population is not suffering from CoVid-19, but from an even more widespread condition: Trump Derangement Syndrome, or TDS. Listening to the moaning and groaning each time the president speaks is becoming really TDS, so to speak.
My cynical self says if Obama was still president and touting HC as the solution more people would champion it. And I’m not a Trump fan for the record.
 
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Sermo is a marketing company paid by drug companies. Not interested in marketing BS.
Got some tough news for you.

Every survey company is a a marketing company paid by biased businesses and political groups. SERMO is no different than Gallup etal
 
Actually, I would think that drug companies would find it more profitable to poo-poo hydroxycholoroquine, which has lost its patent and can go generic, in favor of producing newer, patented, and therefore more expensive vaccine or treatment.
 
Hydroxychloroquine is the generic for Plaquenil. This is a drug that has been around for 70-80 years.
 
My cynical self says if Obama was still president and touting HC as the solution more people would champion it. And I’m not a Trump fan for the record.
Yes a friend of mine from Mexico City who hates Trump was actually defending him on the phone yesterday with me. “Trump mentions this drug which might help people and then I see it saving people and then I turn on CNN and they’re all like ‘Doctor Trump is an idiot!’ Seriously? Made me sick and I don’t even like Trump”
 
You take a valid issue and attempt to completely derail this thread because you don’t like the source.
If it’s true that the source is a publication by the Moonies, then put me on the list as not trusting the source.
 
Election year. The media’s candidate-of-choice has an increasing mountain of issues, thus they must assault the opposition every chance they get. And they are all charged up after taking 8 years off (2008-2016).

We are far better informed - and not misinformed - if we listen to the Church and common sense and…

…turn the media off. It is poisonous.
 
India has approved the use of the drug as prophylaxis to protect health workers and close contacts of Covid-19 patients from infection.
 
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If it’s true that the source is a publication by the Moonies, then put me on the list as not trusting the source
My issue isn’t with the reliability of the source, I have no opinion on that. My issue was with the attempt to derail the thread with complaints that had no bearing on the topic itself.
 
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Zaccheus:
If it’s true that the source is a publication by the Moonies, then put me on the list as not trusting the source
My issue isn’t with the reliability of the source, I have no opinion on that. My issue was with the attempt to derail the thread with complaints that had no bearing on the topic itself.
If the source of a report is unreliable that does have a bearing on discussion of the report.
Now if a reliable medical authority tells us this drug is useful for combating Covid-19 that would be good news and I’d gladly accept it.
 
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