'I’m gay and I’m a priest, period.’

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Emperor_Markus said:
Is that a quote from Voltaire in your signature? I thought the Church condemned Voltaire’s writings as heretical. Indeed, he is listed in the “Index Librorum Prohobitum”.

For what reason would a Catholic (out of curiosity only) support Voltaire? :confused:
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You are invoking the genetic fallacy, Emperor. That is something the Church does not embrace.

Just because a source may be questionable…don’t assume what the source professes is wrong.

For example, if your child says, “I learned on Barney that we shouldn’t leave the water running when we brush our teeth!”

It would be wrong to say, “We don’t get our ecological principles from a puppet. Therefore, you SHOULD run the water when you brush your teeth.”

Rather, we Catholics evaluate the truth of what’s proposed, regardless of the source.

If it’s true, then we say 👍

So, if Voltaire says, “There is only 1 God”, we say, “Yes!” and we might decide to put that on our signature. 🙂
 
Emperor_Markus said:
Is that a quote from Voltaire in your signature? I thought the Church condemned Voltaire’s writings as heretical. Indeed, he is listed in the “Index Librorum Prohobitum”.

For what reason would a Catholic (out of curiosity only) support Voltaire? :confused:
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the Index was formally abolished on 14 June 1966 by Pope Paul VI
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_Librorum_Prohibitorum

The Index also had the works of Galileo because we all know that the sun revolves around the earth.
 
PRmerger said:
You are invoking the genetic fallacy, Emperor. That is something the Church does not embrace.

Just because a source may be questionable…don’t assume what the source professes is wrong.
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Why, then, were the writings of Voltaire included on the Index, if a small portion of them contained a small degree of truth?
 
Emperor_Markus said:
I recognize the Index was suppressed, but Catholics are still encouraged to follow it. I certainly intend to, as a Protestant who will potentially become Catholic.
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Where have you heard that Catholics are encouraged to follow the now abolished Index?
 
Emperor_Markus said:
Is that a quote from Voltaire in your signature? I thought the Church condemned Voltaire’s writings as heretical. Indeed, he is listed in the “Index Librorum Prohobitum”.

For what reason would a Catholic (out of curiosity only) support Voltaire? :confused:
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Have you got a recent copy of the Index? No! Thought not. I did also believe that the phase you referer to is actually a description of Voltaire’s beliefs coined by Evelyn Hall, his biographer (well one of them)
 
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Emperor_Markus said:
Why? The Index is a good thing. It should not have been abolished in the first place.
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I have no doubt Pope Paul had his reasons for ending the prohibition on literature. I don’t know how you are deciding not to read in light of the fact that nothing has been added to the defunct list for fifty years.
 
Thorolfr said:
Where have you heard that Catholics are encouraged to follow the now abolished Index?
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EWTN in their frequently asked questions section has this: Emphasis is mine
“After the dissolution of the Index, when some people thought the printing and distribution of the work was permitted, people were reminded again in ‘LOsservatore Romano’ (June 15, 1966) that, as was published in the ‘Acta Apostolicae Sedis’ (1966), the Index retains its moral force despite its dissolution. A decision against distributing and recommending a work, which has not beeen condemned lightly, may be reversed, but only after profound changes that neutralize the harm which such a publication could bring forth among the ordinary faithful.”
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at9009 said:
Oh sorry I misunderstood your post then. What I was trying to emphasize is that yes there might be an initial attraction towards someone but as a friendship develops it seems that the attractions lessen (at least for me). You are right there is a difference. So I guess I don’t understand exactly the point you were trying to make and I apologize for misunderstanding it.
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The first two sentences of my first post state the point I was trying to make. It is the same point as in my last post.
 
LaughingBoy1503 said:
The first two sentences of my first post state the point I was trying to make. It is the same point as in my last post.
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Oh okay. Sorry for being a bit dense. You are right we can’t choose who we are attracted to. I guess I don’t see that as a big deal but am more focused on what to do with those attractions. There are plenty of holy ways to deal with that attraction (both healthy ways and unhealthy ways) and there are unholy ways to deal with those attractions. So, I am in agreement with you but I guess I fixated on the next question which be what do I do know with these attractions (which can be applied to my case or to someone who is married and attracted to someone other than their spouse, etc.). Also thanks for the good conversation and responding.
 
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