"I’m Really Tired of Hearing Heresy from the Pulpit." A Personal Account

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"Here is a sample of things I have heard with my own ears preached from the pulpit during Mass:

– We can’t trust Luke’s account in the book of Acts about Jesus’ ascension, because Luke wasn’t personally present for the event

– The Ascension isn’t that Jesus ascended into heaven to be seated at the right hand of the Father, but that he ascended into our hearts

– The Holy Spirit is not a person

– The three persons of the Trinity are like different roles God plays at different times

– Casting doubt on the Immaculate Conception by giving a false history of the dogma."
 
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If you really have heard these things preached, then takes Jesus’ advice and first confront your brother (the priest.) If he won’t listen to you, then take a person or two with you. If he still continues to insist that those positions are accurate, then you should take it to the bishop.
 
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I bet almost all Catholics who sufficiently know the faith have heard major heresies preached from the pulpit, not to mention errors taught by priests and others in authority in Confession
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I can’t say that I have ever heard heresies from the pulpit. Perhaps I am just extremely lucky.
 
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I guess I attend a different Catholic Church. I have never heard anything like the stuff you have reported here.
Sure you actually attend a Catholic Church? 😉
 
On the Ascension, Catholic Answers gives the following link…

www.catholic.com

Ascension

The elevation of Christ into heaven by His own power in presence of His disciples the fortieth day after His Resurrection. Click here to learn more.
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To say that He was taken up, or that He ascended, does not necessarily imply that they locate heaven directly above the earth; no more than the words “sitteth on the right hand of God” mean that this is His actual posture. In disappearing from their view “He was raised up and a cloud received Him out of their sight” (Acts, 1, 9), and entering into glory He dwells with the Father in the honor and power denoted by the Scripture phrase.
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What are people’s thoughts on this interpretation?
 
Where do these people attend Mass? I’ve never heard such things from the pulpit.

Pope Francis himself said the Holy Spirit is a person, that should be the end of that matter.
 
Even after attending a few Jesuit Parishes over several years, I have never heard these things.
 
Given that the Earth is a globe (roughly, it’s not an exact globe), how would Heaven be “above” it? There is no “above” in space, “above” is a relative term used by humans who are seeing the Earth as a flat plane because we’re tiny and gravity is pasting our feet to the “below” part, the ground. Heaven is clearly in some dimension beyond space and time.
 
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I can’t say that I have ever heard heresies from the pulpit. Perhaps I am just extremely lucky.
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I’m also willing to bet that on the Ascension point and perhaps on the Immaculate Conception point as well, there was some failure of understanding between what the priest or deacon said and what the guy in the pew looking to play Heresy Spotter heard.

I notice there are absolutely no attributions, no names named etc in the article. This is a “names or it didn’t happen” if I ever saw one.
 
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I’m not specifically judging what was allegedly said here, this is at best 3rd party information. It is extremely easy for someone to mistakenly judge a person’s speech and what they intended. It is even more so when the person is skeptical of the intent of the other person in the first place; something I’d suspect might be happening here.

My spouse is a pastor, it happens all the time. The worst was a person who literally heckled the sermon with some incoherent justifications. This was a very “Blue Lives Matters” neighborhood and a white police chief had just been gunned down by a black man with moderate criminal background. Recently there had also been one of the mass murders at a black church. The insinuation that all of this represented senseless murder of coequal people was apparently too much.
 
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I would call and make an appointment with the priest.

“Father, last Sunday I understood you to say that … . Please, would you further explain this to me?” and I would listen, then have a conversation with him.

If it ends up that I did not misunderstand, and the priest insists that the Ascension did not happen, I would then write a letter to the Vicar for Clergy at the Diocese. I’d sign my name and leave it in his hands/
 
I guess it is bad that he is spreading false teachings to the people who trust him. But I assume his intentions aren’t to spread heresy. He probably genuinely believes these things. As a priest though he is supposed to represent the Church and teach what she proclaims and teaches to be the truth. It must be hard to be a priest and have doubts about Church teaching. Maybe he went to a not so good semi sry or did so around Vatican 2. That was a tough time for many
 
You have not heard this yourself MDGspencer? This is from a blog. There is no way to substantiate any of it. It is what we call Hearsay.
 
From what I understand Churchpop is a ministry of Ewtn.
The author says these are not things heard from his own parish but things being said in general from different parishes and priests.
I think the point of the article is for Catholics to be aware, recognize, and resist heresy when they hear it.
 
Or…is EVERY direction “above,” because in a straight line extending from the core of the Earth to any point x on the surface of the Earth, there is something “above” it?
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Honestly, nothing. They’re great! They innovate with new spiritual ideas. They kind of ride just on the edge of things. I like it…genuinely. I almost thought about going to one of their discernment retreats. I don’t think I can deal with the celibacy thing. I don’t believe I’m called to that.
 
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