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Fauken
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Not all of them. None of the churches I was in did. They all worshipped on Sundays.
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Fauken
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That’s not a denomination. That’s the name of, just a guess, a random non-denominational church.For instance “Grafted Church”
beauty of a worship is someone powerfull. Many people who convert to a religion had at first fallen in love with the beauty of liturgy or a Church building. But it is the first step. Maybe it is enough for some religion and some part of para christians groups, but it is not enough for catholicism and the most of Christians confessions.But I have internet, so I discovered the Protestant Hebrew Worship and it’s immense beauty cannot let me live.
To be intellectually okay and surrender is the decisive step.
Seems you have to do a choice, but maybe you are not in the best place now to do it, as you are so torn. And confinement cannot help.have a dillema. Catholicism or That Prot Hebrew Worship which I love so much. And since then I am mentally tired… and to this very day I cannot sleep or think because of religion. It won’t let me live my life until I decide. And if I choose Catholicism I will regret it I know.
I think you have to choose something you can live. Not only through internet videos.
Not everyone who protests the catholic Church is protestant. for eg, Eastern Orthodox. And many protestants don’t protest Catholic Church. they have just been raised as Protestants.Oh they do keep Sabbath, I though everyone who protests the Catholic Church is protestant. And I know many keep Sabbath on Saturday,
You know that many keep Sabbath. but it is very annecdoctical. a simple search on stats and denominations will show you the contrary. And honestly you seems to have said that you don’t know a lot of protestants community, right?And I know many keep Sabbath on Saturday,
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otjm
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I can’t help with mental problems. You just asked a question at the beginning; and I answered the question. Your fixation on “Yeshua Crowd” is not about seeking the truth; it is about an emotional issue.I have an inner battle you wouldn’t understand. Do you know the Protestant so called “Yeshua Crowd” yea, I’m kind of into that. A LOT. So much that it won’t let me live for a second that I do not think about it.
I gave you an answer - you said bible Bible BIBLE and I told you the Catholic Church is more about the Bible than anyone else out there - it is also more about Christ than anyone else out there, as Christ gave us the Sacraments - something you seem to have either little knowledge of or appreciation of.
And I will make my comment again: If you want Truth, then you need to do a bit more exploration of what the Church teaches and does than you have to date.
And if it is a mental issue, then that is out of my pay grade.
Maybe getting into the Catholic Church as you have been getting into the “Yeshua Crowd” would resolve the issue about religion. But if the issue is not about religion, but about your focus, I can’t help, and neither can anyone else here.
Of course psychiatry and maybe medications can help some people. Those who are affected with mental illness, disability, depression, post traumatic shock…Drugs won’t help. Trust me, I was at a medical institution for 2 weeks. It only messes with your mind. I’m telling you never let doctors mess with your mind there. They can’t help you. Doctors don’t help, neither do drugs, neither do psychiatrists. I have to decide between Catholicism or Protestantism (non denominational). And if I don’t this will keep happening to me. I have to decide.
To be torn between a religious choice is not an illness. So yes, if you have consult a mental health clinic for this reason ONLY, they cannot help you.
But psychological and spiritual help, direction or support can still be sollicitated from secular therapist or Catholic priest in spiritual direction. (well, I guess you are not very tempted by the last one…)
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Fauken
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I know Jews who were Messianic Jews briefly. They left it for Catholicism. You’ll probably meet quite a few of them in the Association for Hebrew Catholics.but I do with this Messianic Judaism thing.
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Irishmom2
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OP, losing sleep over this. Leaving Catholicism for Protestantism or Islam sounds totally illogical on your part. I agree that you really need some professional help. You are searching for something to soothe some sort of pain or fill some gap that may not have anything to do with religion at all.
There is no harm in going for help.
There is no harm in going for help.
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adamhovey1988
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My dad was Lutheran, he was never anti-Catholic and that was the case with him.And many protestants don’t protest Catholic Church. they have just been raised as Protestants.
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adamhovey1988
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That one really bothers me. Because Muslims deny that Jesus was crucified, but if there’s no crucifixion there is no resurrection, and there’s no forgiveness of sins.Islam
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adamhovey1988
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I went to a Messianic synagogue(it was something she had to do for school) with a friend of mine, and the pastor there was actually quite nice, but he came from a Lutheran background. He found out he was of Jewish descent and got interested in it. But a lot of people are of Jewish descent and don’t become part of the Messianic Jewish denomination.
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adamhovey1988
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The question of who is a Jew is complicated to begin with, under some definitions I am a Jew, because my grandfather was of Jewish heritage, in other ones, I’m not because it’s not from a female ancestor via my mother. The way it was described to me (by Messianic Jews), was basically a loosely-defined Protestant denomination of people who see themselves as Jewish, although many of them are of Jewish descent. Do not mistake Messianic Jews for like Jews for Jesus or Hebrew Catholics, these are different.
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I’m a Catholic and I read the Bible All the time; I also listen to Bible on audio all the time. what’s stopping you from reading your Bible? Maybe you need to watch former Protestant David Anders to appreciate what the Catholic Church is And why He joined it.But I consider leaving Catholicism due to the lack of Bible reading, Bible preaching, Bible following, Bible, Bible, Bible.
The Bible has been writted by men. That’s why we have the authors, such as Jeremie, John… She is considered as inspired but does not come from God directly as the Qu’ran.
She had been written in foreign languages for us such old Hebrew, Aramean and Ancient Greek. The average person don’t know them. there is also a lot of symbolism and alot of things that had to be put in historical context. Many Bibles give some notes to help the reader to understand. Every reader is entitle to his own interpretation, but it his the job of more cultivate and intellectual people such as exegets to understand correctly the Bible. We don’t have the capacity to be sure to understand all correctly. We can all err, and that’s normal and okay. That’s why the church fram the professionnal who works on the Bible to be sure that the interpretation is faithfull to the Tradition.
Conclusion, you can decide that you don’t need the Church to read the Bible, but you will necessarily made errors.
From your other post: yes mass can be boring. You can read and think of the Biblical texts BEFORE to go to each mass. It would be easier to listen after, understand and to made your own conclusions.
Protestantism services works more on emotions and personal experience with the faith. that’s seems great, but emotions are not the Thruth.
As you invited us to search “Yeshuva Crowd” on the internet, the first thing I find is this video from a Protestant pastor who try to demontrate that using this vocabulary is not faithfull to the Bible. I don’t come to an official website, si I don’t think you go to somewhere with this concept.
Note: i know it is not catholic but reasonably hope that it is against the catholic interpretation too and not against the forum rules.
She had been written in foreign languages for us such old Hebrew, Aramean and Ancient Greek. The average person don’t know them. there is also a lot of symbolism and alot of things that had to be put in historical context. Many Bibles give some notes to help the reader to understand. Every reader is entitle to his own interpretation, but it his the job of more cultivate and intellectual people such as exegets to understand correctly the Bible. We don’t have the capacity to be sure to understand all correctly. We can all err, and that’s normal and okay. That’s why the church fram the professionnal who works on the Bible to be sure that the interpretation is faithfull to the Tradition.
Conclusion, you can decide that you don’t need the Church to read the Bible, but you will necessarily made errors.
From your other post: yes mass can be boring. You can read and think of the Biblical texts BEFORE to go to each mass. It would be easier to listen after, understand and to made your own conclusions.
Protestantism services works more on emotions and personal experience with the faith. that’s seems great, but emotions are not the Thruth.
As you invited us to search “Yeshuva Crowd” on the internet, the first thing I find is this video from a Protestant pastor who try to demontrate that using this vocabulary is not faithfull to the Bible. I don’t come to an official website, si I don’t think you go to somewhere with this concept.
Note: i know it is not catholic but reasonably hope that it is against the catholic interpretation too and not against the forum rules.
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