I am a supporter of the movement "pro-life" and at the same time I am a supporter of the EU, but I noticed that most of the pro-life is anti-EU

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But that would still mean Northern Ireland becoming part of a united Ireland (even if it es put of the EU). Why would Unionists vote to become part of a united Ireland?

Personally, I think that after the UK leaves the EU, and we seem to have a prospective Prome Minister who will now actually do that, that in some years time the Republic of Ireland will also leave the EU (the UK being, I believe, its largest export market , being a key factor in this).
 
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Actually, its institutions only act - and can only act - within the competences conferred upon them in the Treaties by the Member States. The principle of ‘conferral’ is one of the inviolable leitmotifs of European constitutionalism:


Anything that hasn’t been conferred is strictly a member state competence, and no amount of ‘strongarming’ would give the Union even a modicum of authority to intervene.

That’s the beauty of having a supranational Union that isn’t actually a State (which claims to possess its power by inherent and incontestable “right” as states do).

The EU is thus as ‘good’ or as ‘bad’ as its Member States have seen fit to make it.
 
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Christian Democrat politicians who have largely driven the exercise are conservatives.
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Exactly which European leader in exercise today ever spoke against abortion or against gender theory? No matter what their political name may be or religion. In EU it is clear that all leadees support the ethic morals of the socialists. Nobody is traditional. It is a fact not a judgement.
I am European (Romanian) and I have to tell you that even under these circumstances the US pov regarding right and left is way more money driven than in Europe. In Europe when people say left or right we do not discuss taxes or money being spent even if we do not scream God at evert 5 seconds. The left is progressive and socialist and interested in ethical equality while the right is interested in keeping freedom from a moral point of view and preserving certain aspects of society that time has validated as sustainable.
In the anglo saxon world left and right is usually about money and taxes under the pretence that a discussion about morals is necessarily religious, necessarily passionate hence violent.
Sorry this is how it looks like from the outside. I am no hermit, I do need money, but the American success has lead everyone talking aboit money as if money holds some secret moral code to it
I believe they don’t. They are a convention.
@Kaninchen I only tried to read Breitbart once and it was all chaotic and confusing to me. I never borrow any voews from it.
 
I dont think it is a coincidence that the parts of Europe that had wars after WW2 were the parts that were still more isolated from the rest of the continent. Unions create accountability and accountability helps keep bad things from happening. There is no equivalent here in North America, but Mexico/USA/Canada haven’t had any kind of armed conflict since the 19th century (WW1 and Mexico doesnt really count) because the countries rapidly became interlinked.

I’m honestly not saying the EU is impervious to becoming a gross and corrupt entity. It is made of human beings, but human beings are better when put into positions of mutual responsibility. Britain might be leaving the EU but Britain itself can just as easily (maybe even more easily) do all the things that people are scared the EU might do. So you work within the system to make it better.
 
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Hmm, as a Scot myself I wouldn’t necessarily agree with that interpretation, still less the paradigm or theory that support for Unionism can be correlated with relative lack of proficiency in, or widespread use of, Gaelic.

One of the main hubs of support for Scottish Independence was cosmopolitan, lowland Glasgow - Scotland’s largest city, which does not have a Gaelic cultural heritage (as in regions of the highlands) but rather has spoken English - mingled with bits here and there of “Scots” that has become, somewhat wrongly, known as slang Glasgow patter - for centuries.

By contrast, the Highland regions where Gaelic and traditional tongues are widely spoken, voted very strongly for the Union.

Dundee, North Lanarkshire and West Dunbartonshire were the other regions that voted for independence - all in the lowlands, none Gaelic speaking.

The highest percentages of Gaelic speakers were in the Outer Hebrides which voted about 67% to remain in the UK.

It thus cannot be used as a good indicator.
 
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You should visit the Eastend or Southside of Glasgow sometime if you think it’s under threat of vanishing.

Might be an educational, ethnographical experience in more ways than one 😂
 
While I don’t doubt your experience in this regard, as a linguist, anecdotally I can’t say that I’ve come across it myself (as in northern England).

I travel widely around my native Scotland and the dialects are in very fine form.

I mean, if you look even at the Scottish politicians - especially but not limited to the SNP ones, including Sturgeon, their dialects are discernible and haven’t undergone any anglicization.

And I can vouch that I don’t know one person back home who pronounces think as fink like my Cockney cousins and friends do.
 
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We’ve discussed before the question of homogeneous language and Estuary English etc etc. Emotionally (because I’m prone like all people of my advanced age to all the moaning about change) I have sympathy, although intellectually I know that language will change and each culture and region and age will develop its own individuality.

What I don’t understand is why you think the EU is an agent in this matter? The Euroenglish of EU institutions is not Estuary English or anything like it, and is not creeping into the idiolects of non-eurocrats. Its not even as pervasive as the mid-Atlanticism we used to complain about when we knew television was turning all us British into ersatz Americans. Real people make up their own slang and their own new pronunciations and their own nuances of meaning local to their class, education and geography. It will take more than the EU to stop that.
 
Well, I’m 27 myself but I have friends who are 21-24 and ones in their early 30s, as well as my own age (late 20s).

So, I have frequent exposure to the full gambit (almost) of 20-35.

And none of them do the th-fronting vocalization that you mention.

I obviously can’t speak for teenagers, but the younger members of my extended family and neighbours back home (i.e. children 8-12) also don’t do this.

Indeed since the SNP have come to power in 2007, I’ve noticed that many of my parents’ neighbours back in Scotland are sending their kids to Gaelic school.

The reason is not just because the Scottish government makes sure that these schools are well-funded, but that many parents think they are the best choice because they provide a very good learning environment.
 
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Hey, if you don’t mind me asking what age are you? 😊
I thought that you were much older than that. Maybe around PickyPicky’s age!
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Internet anonymity is a funny thing. In the past, I’ve constantly irked female posters by referring to them as “he”. I’ve become super-pedantic about it now for that reason!
 
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I am now the go-to model of decrepitude. (Is that the right use of “go-to”? Strange American expression infecting my word hoard.) 🙂
 
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