I am a traditionally-minded Catholic who LOVES the Pauline Mass

[ethelzguy]

Why are more scriptures/less tradition suddenly better?

We Prots now?

Yah, that’s it.

 

[PrayforMallory]

Are you absolutely sure I’ve posted more posts? PrayforMallory I’ve noticed your total posts stand at 162 compared to mine at just 122 If you counted up all the individual posters ( I’m not revealing their screen names) you will find in order from most to least.
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I am not going to be dragged into a tit for tat tennis match sparring sessions. That’s all I’m going to say at this time.

P.S. PrayforMallory to show you I have no hard feelings. Did you see and read my prayer for Mallory on Post #58?

I thought I edited that post. Guess I didn’t.

Well, didn’t mean it. Didn’t understand what you meant.

 

[PrayforMallory]

Yah, that’s it.

Heh.

A little strong, yes, but we don’t want to end up describing ourselves as “Bible-toting, … Catholics,” or whatever that miserable quote by Mark Shea was.

We don’t want to emphasize the Bible over Tradition, or vice-versa.

 

[mattwcu]

Hi Patrick,

Thank you for posting the OF Scripture references. Its really very interesting to see that. Can I ask where you found that reference? I ask because I might want to use it as an example later on to Protestant friends.

In the same vein, do you know where I can find the EF version of that? The EF is almost all scripture from what I understand too.

Btw, you are right about the conversation turning south. Its unfortunate that happens on internet boards.

-Matt

 

[PatrickJT914]

I thought I edited that post. Guess I didn’t.

Well, didn’t mean it. Didn’t understand what you meant.

PrayforMallory,
That’s okay. No harm, No foul

 

[PatrickJT914]

Heh.

A little strong, yes, but we don’t want to end up describing ourselves as “Bible-toting, … Catholics,” or whatever that miserable quote by Mark Shea was.

We don’t want to emphasize the Bible over Tradition, or vice-versa.

PrayforMallory,
Two quick comments.

1. It that a bad thing? To be called bible toting Catholics. Especially, when we know where to find biblical verses that support and defend our Catholic faith. That will certainly blow away Protestants. Won’t they be surprised. In fact it may just bring more of them back to the Catholic Church. (Whoops, this wasn’t a quick comment, sorry about that chief)
2. You are right, the Catholic Church is a balance of Sacred Scripture and tradition.

 

[PatrickJT914]

Hi Patrick,

Thank you for posting the OF Scripture references. Its really very interesting to see that. Can I ask where you found that reference? I ask because I might want to use it as an example later on to Protestant friends.

In the same vein, do you know where I can find the EF version of that? The EF is almost all scripture from what I understand too.

Btw, you are right about the conversation turning south. Its unfortunate that happens on internet boards.

-Matt

mattwcu,
You’re welcome, and thank you. Sure you may ask. Although you may not like the answers. 1.) I have a bad habit of not writing down my resources, even though they are good
resources. 2. I did this compilation years ago. 3. I’m not sure of even what bible translation I used to check out the references. I apologize for this. I’ll try to look around in my house for those references. I don’t know where you could find EF version of this.
However, the OF should work for some of the EF. Because when the Vatican Council II started to revise the liturgy, some of the changes were a reshifting of prayers and practices, not necessarily removing them from the Mass. Oh, by the way I was working on a post to this thread showing the differences or in some instances no changes between the Mass of 1570 and the Mass of 1970. However, I accidently hit the wrong key and I lost all that I had written. Maybe I’ll try it again.

 

[Spiller]

It is opinion because not everyone will necessarily share your criteria for what makes a Lectionary cycle superior.

If all it takes for a Lectionary cycle to be great is lots and lots of scripture then lets lengthen Mass by a couple of hours and the 1st Reading each Sunday can be 2 OT books, the 2nd Reading can be 4 of Paul’s epistles and we can read all 4 Gospels.

There! Now it is a fact that that cycle is superior! It would be laughable for anyone to think otherwise!

Actually it’s the Church’s opinion – or rather, position and action. It’s sorta sad to see people defend elements of the EF even when they are clearly inferior.

Wow. Some unnamed “traditionalists” might possible hold a different opinion if history had happened differently?

Do you honestly think that is a good argument for you trying to elevate your personal opinions to the level of fact?

James

It’s not simply based on my opinion – it’s based on the Church’s actions. Watching people trying to defend the EF reading cycle as superior to the OF’s cycles is sad. It shows they will depend the EF simply because it’s the EF and I find that sad.