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Bwahahahahahaha I love that point!I’ve yet to meet a woman who can keep a secret!
Bwahahahahahaha I love that point!I’ve yet to meet a woman who can keep a secret!
I’d like to know their source for this. My question is when was the priest supposed to have heard the person’s sins so that they would know to absolve them? The priest does not blindly absolve someone from their sins, they need to know what sin they are absolving.I voted that I’d rather confess my sins to a priest even though it can sometimes be difficult (and embarrassing, but people say priests have heard it all).
However, I recall a friend telling me that in the early church people actually did confess their sins to a woman and then receive absolution from the priest. My friend was a graduate student in theology and explained that the woman (I guess she worked for the church-beats me) would hear the person’s sins and give spiritual counsel and then the penitent would be absolved by the priest.
Does anyone know where to research this to see if this is true? If so, then I think the OP is not completely off her rocker.
I’m with you on this. And women are more likely to be “enabling,” forgetting that underlying reasons still aren’t excuses. Besides, in the confessional, I am confessing my sins to Jesus, and He is a man, no matter what the gender of the person on the other side of the screen. Dear OP, if you are not comfortable confessing to your own priest, go to a neighboring parish and confess there. And if neither church has a screen, complain to the bishop. God bless.In general, I have to admit that I don’t trust other women. I think they tend to be more “catty,” “gossipy,” etc, and I actually feel more comfortable talking to guys in general.
When my friend was explaining this he said that the woman (or lay person) was working together with the priest, not independently. She would first hear the person’s sins, offer guidance, then the penitent would immediately go to the priest (like in the next room or something) for the absolution.I’d like to know their source for this. My question is when was the priest supposed to have heard the person’s sins so that they would know to absolve them? The priest does not blindly absolve someone from their sins, they need to know what sin they are absolving.
Now I do know that there where deaconesses in the Church whose only real role was to help with the baptism of women.
It’s my understanding that in the early Church confession was done publicly in front of the priest and congregation.
Hopefully someone will chime in that knows more about this subject.![]()
There is nothing deeper going on. I’m quite willing to remain in communion with the Church.I think the OP needs a female Spirtual Director.
And needs to call the Parish and call them out on not having a screen. Otherwise, I would say that something deeper is going on if you do not want your Parish to abide by Cannon Law.
I am glad to hear that you are not looking for a way to leave the church, or a reason rather…There is nothing deeper going on. I’m quite willing to remain in communion with the Church.
It is morning and time for me to face the beat of the drum.
It seems that consensus would have me search high and low for a confessional with a screen. I will do this. Please note that screens seem to be from a by-gone-era in my neck of the woods. I had no idea that Cannon Law requires that screens be readily available.
It is amusing to see the interest peaked by the possibility that designated women in the early Church heard confessions of other women and then had sins absolved by the priest.
Good wishful, hopeful thinking? – Indeed
And to the posters here that ‘put down’ women as gossipers beyond compare and negative sympathizers –
And thanks to the poster who said “I would rather confess my sins to God.” This is more likely to happen with a screen. Period
I have a hard time seeing this since confession, as we know it, has only been around since the 1200’s or so. In the early church, confession was public, involved a LONG penitential period, which must be preformed before absolution was given, and was only allowed once in a life time.When my friend was explaining this he said that the woman (or lay person) was working together with the priest, not independently. She would first hear the person’s sins, offer guidance, then the penitent would immediately go to the priest (like in the next room or something) for the absolution.
My friend and I had this discussion many years ago and that’s all I remember what he said. I guess someone would have to do a search on the history of the sacrament of reconciliation.
This would be an invalid Sacrament because it separates the elements of the Sacrament.I voted that I’d rather confess my sins to a priest even though it can sometimes be difficult (and embarrassing, but people say priests have heard it all).
However, I recall a friend telling me that in the early church people actually did confess their sins to a woman and then receive absolution from the priest. My friend was a graduate student in theology and explained that the woman (I guess she worked for the church-beats me) would hear the person’s sins and give spiritual counsel and then the penitent would be absolved by the priest.
Does anyone know where to research this to see if this is true? If so, then I think the OP is not completely off her rocker.
Br. Rich and Karen Elissa,This would be an invalid Sacrament because it separates the elements of the Sacrament.
Truthfully, we are to look at our confessors as vehicles for Jesus to work through. More than a priest listening to your sins, Jesus is hearing your confession, and absolving you…not the priest. The priest is not judging you (or shouldn’t be) but rather, he is there acting in the persona of Christ. We share with Jesus our thoughts, fears, and sins…in every day prayer with Him…this really is no different. I understand your angst with confessing to a male, but if you think of it the terms above, it might lessen some of your concern about that. God bless!This question and poll is published with women in mind.
Without elaborating too much I just want to state how much better I’d feel about confessing my sins to a woman. Sometimes I just want to shrug my shoulders and give up on the business of confessing my sins simply because I’m tired of facing male priests for this matter. These thoughts and feelings are terrible but I can’t help it. Although I wear plain modest clothing and not a drop of makeup or perfume when I confess I can’t help but feel I am wearing a great big W on my forehead and breasts. I feel that if I confessed to another woman she would look at me as another one of her kind – without suspicion – with understanding – with mutual love and kindness. I’ve found myself envying men as they trot in to confess to a ‘buddy’. Anyway – am I alone here?
Yes - I know my expressions won’t be changing anything - ever.