I am an atheist thread 3

[CalmDownWisWins]

Where does being rude actually get us??? Nowhere…

I’m not being rude. I’m being honest in my statements of my opinions of my observations.

To allow those unworthy to speak with us to do so because they dislike hearing the truth is not a sin, as far as I can see.

Where does being the subservient play-thing of children get you?

 

[psyche23]

May I suggest that you de-quote those parts which are your statements, and leave as quoted those parts which are quotes you are responding to?

**I would, but this is the only way I’ve figured out how to respond directly to each question without lumping them all together at the end… **

Also, so it’s fine for you to call me “childish”, yet you condemn me for calling those that I see as childish childish?

I agree with you that I could be seen as childish, if you consider what I’m doing as being childish, and I accept your description as YOUR DESCRIPTION of your observation of me, and not as an insult.

So, why is it “wrong” to expect atheists to accept MY description of their behavior as a description of my observation of their behavior, and not as “insult”?

** Fine you got me… but my point remains clear…I’m also not just going to sit back and let you tear down any good communication we’ve built up… So forgive me if I’ve resorted to your own tactics. But let’s be clear about this. I’m not generalizing your being childish to all Catholics. If that were so I’d be getting lots of replies back from everyone on this thread who was Catholic. I was referring to specific statements that you made as an individual. There’s a difference.**

The reason is to placate the children, to not diminish their “self-esteem”, so that they will expect to get away with more “bad behavior” later, thus creating yet another crop of “little monsters”.

So your answer is to belittle them???

 

[psyche23]

I’m not being rude. I’m being honest in my statements of my opinions of my observations.

To allow those unworthy to speak with us to do so because they dislike hearing the truth is not a sin, as far as I can see.

Where does being the subservient play-thing of children get you?

Quack quack… looks, acts smells sounds like a duck… all I’m saying…

And I’m not making myself subservient. I’ve made some good points which I think most people here would agree to whether they’re atheist or not… I just choose to make my points a little more eloquently.

 

[psyche23]

What you seem to be forgetting is that we’re *sort of * on the same side here… going for the same goal of trying to spread Christ’s message.

We differ **VASTLY ** on methods.

Constructive critisism shouldn’t have you putting your panties in a knot…

 

[psyche23]

By for now. I have to get to my cousin’s Special Person’s Day. I’m SOOOO excited she asked me to come!!! YEA!!! Enjoy the rest of the work day!!!

 

[_A]

Our God proved himself to be the only God numerous times. One example would be in Egypt during the Exodus. Those plagues were based upon Egyptian gods. For example, the egyptians worshipped the Nile, God turned it to blood; they worship frogs and it was on pain of death if they killed one, God sent hundreds of thousands of frogs to lie in their beds, in their food ect. God’s telling the Egyptians, “you want gods… I’ll show you what a real God can do! Don’t believe me yet??? Here’s more proof- come on Egyptians, what will it take for you to believe!!!”

That’s only one example. Besides, I’m pretty sure if it was a different God who granted my request, he/she wouldn’t want it done in another God’s name… I mean give credit where credit’s due! I didn’t call on some random God. I didn’t ask Zeus or Hera. I asked the one true God.

So then it WAS the same god who placed the cancer there in the first place.
Why do you think he changed his plan (to kill your friend with cancer)?

 

[_A]

If science says it’s a human being (which it does) then killing it is murder. She doesn’t have to KEEP the baby once it’s born, in fact it might be better in many circumstances to give it up. But what you’re condoning is killing a human being, Science agrees. That’s why it’s murder. She does gt to decide what goes on in her own body, sure… but this means accepting responsibility for poor choices too. If she’s not ready to have babies, she shouldn’t have sex. End of story.

Murder is a legal term. Doctors who conduct these procedures are not murderers.
Change the law, or use different language. Calling them murderers is not only dishonest (making you sound quite unreasonable), it is also incorrect.

 

[_A]

Hah ha ha ha ha…! It’s a great thing to know that a least you are exhibiting the usual odd-ball humor of the typical atheist!

Although, if you are so easy to insult, and actually would be so “sensitive like a baby’s bottom” as to want to prohibit the wider audience here from hearing opinions of honest observations of “fanatically religiously-fervent atheists”, then the usual fascistic behavior of the typical atheist is well demonstrated in you.

This post I also don’t understand. If you want to communicate with me, make sense. Try asking questions.
Are you suggesting that I am a fascist? Could you define that term so I know if you are insulting me or not?

 

[lkddav]

If insults are the best you have, then I’ll take it I won that debate…

Psyche

I never insulted you.

 

[_A]

Seriously, is that necessary!!! I have several atheist friends and they’re good people. If you’re here to prove a point, then go ahead and do it. But this type of talk isn’t helping…

Thanks, psyche. I have just learned how to ‘ignore’ a poster, and will use it if this gentleman (lady?) doesn’t start making sense to me soon.

 

[NaturalEnquirer]

Murder is a legal term. Doctors who conduct these procedures are not murderers.
Change the law, or use different language. Calling them murderers is not only dishonest (making you sound quite unreasonable), it is also incorrect.

Murder is not defined solely in law books.

 

[_A]

If you recall, I stated that I am quite fully capable of learning and believing at the same time. Thus proving that believing does not inhibit learning.

Do you ‘believe’ (meaning you **know **without needing evidence) that a fertilized egg in a human womans womb is a ‘soul’ (human person) ?

 

[lkddav]

Christians maybe, but not Catholics. We’re quite clear on what to believe.

Are you saying the church tells you what to believe?

 

[_A]

What is your basis for considering one “suggestion” or interpretation of a stimulus as “good” and another as “bad”?

Finally, a question.
I don’t like the terms ‘good’ or ‘bad’, I prefer to use ‘better’ or ‘worse’.
I consider a suggestion better if it lines up with my goals. What is the point?

 

[_A]

No time for jibba-jabba tonight my friends, I have an astronomy class to go to, then an early night!

Will be seeing you tomorrow

Sounds like great fun, phooney! Enjoy.

 

[lkddav]

Are you telling me that you are being obnoxious without trying?

Clever

 

[_A]

He would claim rights for himself that he would prohibit others to have! What a surprise coming from a would-be slaver of mankind if he were given “power” to do so.

Calling someone a ‘slaver’ is pretty insulting. I would suggest that you report yourself to the mods. For my part, I am simply going to ignore you if there is one more insult on here.

If you don’t report yourself, I submit that it is because you are afraid of bringing your text to the attention of the moderators.
You can prove me wrong - just report you, and if you have done nothing wrong, the mods will certainly agree. I have found them to be reasonable on this board.

 

[lkddav]

Jesus smells like roses, urine, feces, fear, Jesus smells like the people I meet in life that are in need of love and I respond to.

Jesus smells like that person that responds to me when I am in need.

After awhile you get to know that smell like a woman knows the smell of her husbands dirty shirt as he goes off to war, and does not wash it for fear of missing that part of him forever.

Hi 659

So you smell the same scents as i do, and everyone else? You just throw in a dose of jesus?

 

[_A]

It’s not my sensitivities I’m worried about. We’re having good conversations here and am making headway I think in understanding one another. This doesn’t mean I agree with their beliefs or lack of. But I think unity is much more effective than coming in here calling people names. I’m actually surprised there haven’t been more atheists responding here.

And we are called to love everyone. Even our enemies. Even if it’s hard. Love means wanting the best for that person(s). Love is patient, love is kind, it does not bear false witness ect… No Christian/Catholic is bending in his/her beliefs, we’re hopefully intending to be patient and kind as we’ve been taught to do.

You’ll get more responses by asking the same question in a respectful way than by name calling and generalizing. Most likely they’ve put you on ignore anyway. If you truly wish to get your points across and have them read at the same time, you would be wise to choose your words carefully.

I haven’t put her on ignore because I don’t want to have to do that. I have not done it yet. To anyone.
Hopefully, she (CalmDownWisWins) will expend her namecalling soon and have some real questions to ask.

 

[lkddav]

Originally Posted by lkddav
Hi

You asked me what i would take as evidence. If you pray that god teraforms the moon like earth in six days it should come true because jesus said your prayers would be answered.

If this happened i would not think it was a natural phenomeon. You asked what i would take as evidence and i would take this as evidence.

Of course this is not going to happen because your prayer is not going to come true. You can qoute scripture till the cows come home and it still isn’t evidence

Hear Yee Hear Yee,

Let it be from the lips of '" IKDDAV" that he believes no evidence unless he does personally see’s, feel, touch.hear. or smells.

That is from this point now he posts any evidence that he has not been fully involved with in all the senses then refer him back to this thread.

For if he says the weather man states it snowed in New York City Yesterday, that he has pictures, and witness testimony,or even the snow itself that he is not to be taken seriously.

For use his definition of evidence in agreement with him as he has given it.

Now do you want to answer the question.

Hi 659

What rambling. I think my original assumption of you was correct. You asked what i would take as evidence. I gave you my answer. Your god is quite capable of performing this.

Can you and your god show me the evidence or not. A simple yes or no will do.

This is about three times now you have avoided this question.