Truth be told, I am technologically challenged when it comes to attaching images in the forum, and I didn’t have time to learn on a mini-tutorial.
I don’t know if MORE people have been slaughtered on account of religion than any other reason, but millions have been certainly been slaughtered. Probably mainly by Islam in the centuries when Islam overran Asia, slaughtering entire populations of Buddhists and Hindus. there have been terrible slaughters in modern times between Hindus and Muslims. The Christians have slaughtered many in their own day, probably the greatest numbers during the crusades where there was indiscriminate slaughter in the ‘holy’ land. Lots of one-by-one torture and burnings, too, in Europe and Spain, but the ‘numbers’ were not great, ‘just’ a few thousands, I suppose… the Jews slaughtered the populations living in what is now Israel, Canaanites and so forth. Saul was punished by the prophet Nathan because he refused to slaughter a tribe of non-Jews, for example.
Here’s my favorite picture of jesus.
ah, yes, the flour-and-water god!
Well, Hitler didn’t act alone. There were many many ordinary citizens in Germany, Eastern Europe and Russia who helped Hitler’s henchmen, the SS, to kill Jews and others by the millions. Most of these ordinary citizens were good CATHOLICS and members of ORTHODOX churches. They lived at home, went to work, slaughtered Jews, and otherwise led ordinary lives; they went to church. I don’t know if they bothered to confess. I don’t know if their priests thought that they had committed sins.
In the 20th century, most powerful despots weren’t religious, so religion was let off the hook. But in the days, when rulers were religious,…look out! Lots of slaughters.
…I’m happy for you, Justin–you seem in a far better place now.
It’s fair to argue that this is a Catholic forum and the arguers against atheism would be Catholic.
Whats your point? cant others commit sin? What about priests that are pedophiles? you actually think we believe thats right? No of course we don’t but people fall to temptation.
Doesn’t reason suck when your position is unreasonable?
This suggests that you also could not possibly understand - or any person, right? Now, go on with explaining how you understand your god…
Bush is killing for his god, too. I don’t suggest that this ‘god’ can do anything about it (remember, I don’t believe). That doesn’t change the fact that both Bush, and the 9/11 attackers were doing what they did in the name of a god.
Face it, this looks strikingly like it would if there were no gods.
Thanks for the effort. Your god is a golden trinket? I thought you worshipped the artist formerly known as Yahweh.
You are seriously mistaken about Hitler. He did nothing for or in the name of God. The statement you quoted is nothing more than a calculated ploy on his part in his rise to power. Get real!
You are misunderstanding. Even atheists could kill in the name of god. Hitler was not devout (though he was a Catholic - never excommunicated. I guess he wasn’t as evil as Galileo)but he used religious nonsense to push his agendas when he chose. Because of some ridiculous automatic respect many have for a man who injects holy words into his language.
They didn’t all kill for atheism, though. They killed for a variety of reasons. It just seems like when someone wants to do some large-scale murder, they almost always invoke the name of a god.
It looks like a golden trinket, and an icon. Calling it sarcasm is a dismissal, it doesn’t change what I saw.
Your problem is one of bias and perspective. The punishment we receive is of our own making.
The facts are simple and clear. Religion is not the greatest source of murder and death or division as you claim. The atheistic monsters I named clearly lead the pack when it comes to killing.
The monstrance is a trinket. Your god is not a crumb of bread. Just because you imagine that to be the flesh and blood of a long absent god does not make it so. No matter how hard you imagine it.
Please refer to post #248.