I am curious about "witches"

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** If witchcraft were possible, why do people keep to all that Lovecraftian nonsense, when they could be raising winds or murdering their enemies by sticking needles into effigies of them ? Witchcraft would, if real, be the ideal method of murder - so why does nobody take advantage of so safe a method ? That they don’t, & carry on with detectable methods of doing what they do, speaks for itself 🙂 **​

You should look outside the U.S. and speak with missionaries. Witches do commit murder with their craft and missionaries have both witnessed it and nearly been victims of it.

The witches have no power, they can do no magic, but Satan does have power. Anything that Satan can do, he can do on behalf of his servants if he chooses to do so.
 
And you have still not substantiated that claim.

Edwin
I have said that I have no reference to provide you, but I do feel other posters proved the position better than I could, so I left it there.

Marsha
 
There are things that are bad and even a child knows it.

When a kid breaks a vase he will turn red and be worried.

But no one has ever told him that it is wrong to break a vase.

A dog will not care.

But humans have a conscience that is there before there is even full reasoning.

Homosexuals know they are wrong. Apart from it being against nature and the general laws of the Universe.

And atheists know God exists.

I for example say that gravity does not exist. :rolleyes:
 
My time in witchcraft and occult arts (I know they are two different things; I did both, and more) suggested to me that a human being can in fact tap into an occultic power but not control it, and that power is not really strong. Did my weather spells work? I don’t know. A huge coincidence could have occurred instead. I’m willing ot accept either explanation for that. I have known revenge spells, death wishes and bindings to fail – guaranteed. Maybe if a whole village supports the wishes of the people casting a serious curse, it might work, because they would all be cooperating with it emotionally, but one person or even coven doesn’t have that power. I do know of a group who asked Kali (Hindu goddess) to attack an alleged criminal, and he was either killed or badly hurt by some unknown cause, but that also could have been coincidence; it isn’t as if they specified how and to what extent he should be hurt or just when, after all. And I know love spells don’t work, though I have experienced an increase in my appeal to others while casting spells to attract love in general; that could easily have been autosuggestion and behavior. I have seen a lot of supernatural events, and some were obviously results of occult activity, but no one had any control over it so “power” is not how I would describe it. “Vulnerability” makes more sense. Things happened to us. We didn’t control things at all. Money magic doesn’t work at all. Healing spells may have a temporary-relief effect because they are exciting and thus may release endorphins, which can help heal, but that isn’t supernatural.
As for the likelihood of witches doing charitable works, of course they do. But, having a different value system, they sometimes include in their ideas of “charity” things that are really sins. For example, some may stock food pantries for the poor, teach free divination classes and procure home abortions for the poor. Also, having no real knowledge of God, they can’t pray for help with their good deeds or for wisdom about their desire to help people, so they are less effective and from what I remember, more easily frustrated and exhausted. But those who keep trying to do good and learn the truth and have an open mind will be guided to the truth because God will reward their good intentions by leading them to the truth. However it’s still up to them to accept Him as He is.
 
I used to be a witch. It was far more than a countercultural statement.
Which tradition did you have in mind? The pointed hat is a relatively modern addition to the image of a witch, a mishmash of the astrologer-wise-man image in a conical hat and that slouch-hatted witch sneaking off tot he woods to practice incognito, I believe. The European astrologers wore conical hats to focus wisdom near their heads FWIHH. I’d like to find out what scholarship really exists to explain these symbols. I will be predisposed to dismiss any neo-Freudian sexual interpretation of any of it bc I find there are few reasons to credit Freud with much insight. The broom-flyer image came from a combination of burning broom straw to induce levitation-hallucinations and brooms as altar tools (for removing dust rather than flying). Someone just got it mixed up. The image of a witch as an ugly old woman who lives alone on the edge of town is a legacy from a sad chapter in Euro-American history. Dispel right now any notion of witch hunts as a conspiracy to get rid of women by the Church. Historic records show that laypeople, most of them women, many prosperous women, accused others, some men but mostly women, of casting spells on them. They cited plagues that befell the rich before the poor, women before men. In fact these were almost surely foodborne illnesses, affecting women and the rich because that’s who ate the richest food in that culture then, but the food tasted normal so they didn’t think of it. The only reason the accusers could think of that anyone would curse them would be envy – thus, someone with reason to envy them, who knew them, and who acted unusual, was accused. Most who fit that description were old widowed poor women who lived in the worst land, away from the villages and towns. The signs of senile dementia were little understood then, when so few people lived that long. Almost all Protestant leaders and the Catholic Church defended the accused, assured the accusers they were not cursed, and sought a real explanation for the plagues. It lasted different amounts of time in different places, but was over in Western society 350-400 years after it started. The earliest witch hunts took place in France. The last took place in colonial North America. Today witch trials continue, in primarily pagan societies, and every large Christian community or church forbids anyone to try anyone or punish anyone as a witch. If you know Christians who are punishing people as witches now, I hope you are speaking out about it to your community and demonstrating compassion for the accused.
The word “witch” probably doesn’t actually come from “wicce” (wise woman) but from “weik” (turner, bender, twister).
So, are you trying to say that once a witch you have never cast any spell? For curious or doubting Catholics a lot about witches is explained in Fr Gabriele Amorth (chief exorcist of Rome) books. Available on amazon.
 
Nothing in this world can happen without God permission, He is in control, not Satan. Satan has power when God permits it - example -Job story. Occult can harm - but it does no harm to the faithful who are in God’s grace.
 
So, are you trying to say that once a witch you have never cast any spell? For curious or doubting Catholics a lot about witches is explained in Fr Gabriele Amorth (chief exorcist of Rome) books. Available on amazon.
I cast tons of spells. But few worked. Possibly none; the rate of coincidence necessary would be within statistical plausibility. I don’t know where in my post you got that from. I have had many definite supernatural experiences, though, far beyond what autosuggestion, trickery or coincidence could explain. Some were good and some were bad. But I don’t have any overwhelming evidence that any reflected the success of a spell. Almost all the people who have been accused of witchcraft were Christians showing what look like signs of senile or alcoholic dementia. Today’s fashion for witchcraft is largely a response to a desire to connect with nature and overcome powerlessness in personal life, and though it is extremely bad spiritually and morally, almost always attracts fairly nice people who are seeking the truth. I believe God reaches many or most of them with the truth, and they are eventually converted.
 
Do not doubt that they exist. Were any killed in the witch trials of the 1500’s? Probably not. Do you see the black dress, wild hair, black har stereotype? Not unless you have the ability to look into someones true being.

Few have the ability to see them as they really are and those are the ones the witches are truely afraid of.

Usually, they look like the nice lady or guy next door. Yes, men are also witches. Witches carry bibles, wear crosses, go to mass and receive the sacrement. Why? Because it doesn’t mean anything to them, they serve another lord and it is a good cover for thier real purpose. It persuades the faithful to trust them and makes it easier to go about their true purpose.

Yes, knowledge is power but be careful where you look and be prepared to face the continuing events that will come with the knowledge. In other words, do ask questions if you aren’t ready to listen to the answers and prepared to take on the responsibility it brings.

I pray that Christians who have the servants of Satan among have the ability to see them as they truely are. This thread has opened Pandora’s box, so keep strong and pray.
 
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