I am going to file for divorce!

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I am going to file for divorce. I can’t take it anymore. I believe there is an emotional affair going on. I have been lied to very badly and I now know I can never trust her. So who knows what else went on.
I guess I should talk to my Priest about this.
 
So sorry for you, yes please talk to your priest. I will be praying for you.
 
I am going to file for divorce. I can’t take it anymore. I believe there is an emotional affair going on. I have been lied to very badly and I now know I can never trust her. So who knows what else went on.
I guess I should talk to my Priest about this.
Yes, talk to a priest, and also to a counselor. Here at CAF we will pray that all your problems will soon be resolved.

Praying for you…
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Lots of people get past “emotional affairs”–if they want to.

This doesn’t have to cost you your marriage, if your wife is willing to cut back her emotional relationship with the other man. You may not be much of an emotional support for her given your circumstances (long-term unemployment), so for the moment, I think I would encourage her to turn to female friends and a counselor for support if you are unable to provide her the support that she needs.

Have you done marriage counseling recently (the last year or so)? Your wife may have unpleasant things to tell you about you that she would not feel safe telling you without a third party mediating.

Also, as I recall from your previous posting, you are very likely to wind up on the street if you leave your wife. Is that wise?
 
Wife told me today that she wants to leave me!!

We have a daughter. Trying to dissuade her. Daughter very upset.

I will end up in gutter as wife is main bread winner. I wouldnt want any money anyway as it should all go towards daughters upkeep. Very quiet in house at mo!
 
Also, is your mental health under control? I recall you were recently posting about the verse about how a person who doesn’t support those of his household is worse than an unbeliever, under the impression that that applied to you because of your long-term unemployment and underemployment.

Make sure you talk to your doctor about your situation. It may be that depression is doing the thinking for you and steering you wrong.

Best wishes!
 
I am going to file for divorce. I can’t take it anymore. I believe there is an emotional affair going on. I have been lied to very badly and I now know I can never trust her. So who knows what else went on.
I guess I should talk to my Priest about this.
As one who filed divorced 3 yrs ago and am divorced now I will pray for you.

Please talk to your priest and move slowly, consider legal separation or informal separation with the goal of repairing distrust.

I regret my divorce greatly and while it may have been unavoidable, I wish I had gone about it more slowly and had a structured separation to try out before divorce.

Prayers
 
Thanks everyone. Right now I am NOT thinking of a divorce. Time will tell.
 
Lots of people get past “emotional affairs”–if they want to.

This doesn’t have to cost you your marriage, if your wife is willing to cut back her emotional relationship with the other man. You may not be much of an emotional support for her given your circumstances (long-term unemployment), so for the moment, I think I would encourage her to turn to female friends and a counselor for support if you are unable to provide her the support that she needs.
Seriously? “Cut back” on an emotional affair? How about “cut OUT”? Who the heck cares if he’s unemployed? There are no excuses for an emotional affair, and I don’t see why the proper response to one is finding people to “give her the support that she needs.”
 
Seriously? “Cut back” on an emotional affair?

**I was assuming that the person she is leaning on emotionally is somebody she has to see (for instance at work) so that she can’t simply stop talking to him or cut him out. If it’s somebody more peripheral than that, sure, ask her to cut him out and talk to her girlfriends instead.

In a previous post, he thought his wife liked her boss too much, which might be why I suggested dial down rather than cut out.
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How about “cut OUT”? Who the heck cares if he’s unemployed? There are no excuses for an emotional affair, and I don’t see why the proper response to one is finding people to “give her the support that she needs.”
Have a look at his previous posts.

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Wife told me today that she wants to leave me!!

We have a daughter. Trying to dissuade her. Daughter very upset.

I will end up in gutter as wife is main bread winner. I wouldnt want any money anyway as it should all go towards daughters upkeep. Very quiet in house at mo!
I am very sorry. I hope you find a way to work things out. Many people throw the “d” word around as a way to say, “I just can’t take the status quo any more.” That means the marriage has to change drastically. Sometimes, though, it doesn’t mean the marriage has to go through civil dissolution.

If you have not done so, try to convince your wife that by counselling a) she will come to understand why she married you and how you got where you are, so that even if you divorce she will not get into another relationship with a similar problem, as so often happens, nor will you be likely to repeat the same mistakes with someone else, b) you will learn better communication skills and understand each other better, to get along as parents after the divorce, and c) you will both be satisfied that the marriage could not be saved. IOW, even if your wife is determined to leave, it is in her best interest and in your daughter’s best interest for you to prepare for the split by completing that emotional work before you divorce. Plus, if she does it, maybe she’ll convince you, too, that it is the only peaceful solution to your problems. If you two can’t afford counselling, after all, how are you going to afford separate residences? It may be that with counselling you can find a solution to your differences.

As for your maintenance, any spouse ought to be willing to work if they don’t have custody and any spouse who contributed to the career success of the other ought to consider the increased earning power that he made possible to be part of the divorce settlement. If you have not contributed to her career success, but she’s more successful because she came into the marriage having prepared herself for a more lucrative profession, then yes, it would be fair for you to restrict yourself to the standard of living that applying yourself to your line of work can give you. This is also the same, whether talking to a man or a woman.

Yes, it is very common for both parties in a divorce to suffer a severe financial set-back. If the couple’s divorce was precipitated by financial stresses while they still had only one home to maintain, what are the chances that they won’t be in worse financial distress when they have two places to pay for? Plus, going through a divorce will put your daughter at risk for academic and social problems now, not to mention marital and relationship problems in the future. It is definitely in her best interest that you iron this out, if at all possible.
 
I am going to file for divorce. I can’t take it anymore. I believe there is an emotional affair going on. I have been lied to very badly and I now know I can never trust her. So who knows what else went on.
I guess I should talk to my Priest about this.
Speak to your bishop before separating or filing for divorce.

Can. 1692 §1. Unless other provision is legitimately made in particular places, a decree of the diocesan bishop or a judicial sentence can decide the personal separation of baptized spouses according to the norm of the following canons.

§2. Where an ecclesiastical decision has no civil effects or if a civil sentence is not contrary to divine law, the bishop of the diocese of the residence of the spouses, after having weighed the special circumstances, can grant permission to approach the civil forum.
 
I am very sorry. I hope you find a way to work things out. Many people throw the “d” word around as a way to say, “I just can’t take the status quo any more.” That means the marriage has to change drastically. Sometimes, though, it doesn’t mean the marriage has to go through civil dissolution.
This is very sound advice. As a male, I like to joke that men talk to transmit data, and women talk to transmit feelings. While this may be a gross over-generalization, there’s a grain of truth to it.

A good example is when a wife says “we NEVER go out for dinner”. The husband’s gut reaction is to say “she’s lying, we went out for dinner two months ago”.

In fact though, she’s not lying. She’s saying “it FEELS like we never go out for dinner”, or “we don’t go out for dinner OFTEN enough”.

Often the husband turns around and says to his wife that she’s lying, when in fact she’s not, she’s just using hyperbole to make a point. As a husband, I can say “ignore it at your peril” 😛

And if I rub salt into the wound by telling her she’s lying, then I’m in HUGE trouble. Ask me know I know this… (hint: married 26 years).

In ajecphotos case, I suspect what is being said is “we need to talk, big-time”. At least I’d take it that way at first. If she is really serious, he’ll know soon enough. If not, then it’s time to exercise the first word of the Rule of Saint Benedict: “Listen”, because he’ll regret acting in haste. And not just listen, but as Saint Benedict says, “Listen with the ear of your heart”.
Speak to your bishop before separating or filing for divorce.

Can. 1692 §1. Unless other provision is legitimately made in particular places, a decree of the diocesan bishop or a judicial sentence can decide the personal separation of baptized spouses according to the norm of the following canons.

§2. Where an ecclesiastical decision has no civil effects or if a civil sentence is not contrary to divine law, the bishop of the diocese of the residence of the spouses, after having weighed the special circumstances, can grant permission to approach the civil forum.
I’d still speak to the priest first. Priests are hard enough to get a hold of, and bishops even more so as they’re so busy.

Moreover most often, decisions that are within the authority of the local ordinary (the bishop) are often delegated by the bishop to the curate of the parish. If the priest has had this authority delegated to him, then you’ll save a ton of time. If it hasn’t, then he’ll quickly put you on the right track.

The danger of reading canon law is that we’re not canon lawyers… best go via our pastor as the first step.
 
Moreover most often, decisions that are within the authority of the local ordinary (the bishop) are often delegated by the bishop to the curate of the parish.p.
Actually in itself the power is vested in the diocesan bishop by name, and thus cannot be delegated, although you are correct that other provision may have been legitimately made under canon 1692.

Can. 134 §3. Within the context of executive power, those things which in the canons are attributed by name to the diocesan bishop are understood to belong only to a diocesan bishop and to the others made equivalent to him in ⇒ can. 381, §2, excluding the vicar general and episcopal vicar except by special mandate.
 
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