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lesonal
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I am 15 now ia m what i am becouse of my parents, but i want to convert to catholicsm or orthodox…becouse they came earlier…uhhh how do i propose of doing so?
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lizaanne
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I’m so happy for you!!
Find your local parish and ask to speak with the priest. You will need to attend classes to be received into the Church. The rest is learning more about the Faith every day and growing in your spirituality and relationship with Christ.
This may be difficult for you since you are a minor and I assume still living at home, but it’s not unheard of and certainly not impossible.
Welcome Home lesonal - Welcome Home!
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lesonal
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lol ok thank you so when can i do it now or when i turn eighteen?I’m so happy for you!!
Find your local parish and ask to speak with the priest. You will need to attend classes to be received into the Church. The rest is learning more about the Faith every day and growing in your spirituality and relationship with Christ.
This may be difficult for you since you are a minor and I assume still living at home, but it’s not unheard of and certainly not impossible.
Welcome Home lesonal - Welcome Home!
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msugeotech
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Have you talked to your parents about it yet? And if so, what do they think?
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lesonal
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they think preebyterianism is the only way …
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humble_in_doubt
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shouldn’t you ask your parents first? Doesn’t your bible say obey thy mother and father …
just askin!
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lesonal
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ye thats hwy im just going to wait until i am 18
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ralphinal
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You are correct that you should obey your parents. That does not mean that you cannot start to study the Faith. Once you are a little older, you can convert.
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lesonal
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yeah i study it and thats what i am goiong to do thanks a lot guys
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BernadetteM
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During the next three years continue to read about the Early Church Fathers, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and books by orthodox Catholics. Compare what the Church teaches with the bible. This will give you the knowledge to make a correct decision when your of age.
I wanted to be Catholic at the age of 8, with really no knowledge of what the Church was. My only experience with it was a little girl who was Catholic. She gave me her Baltimore Catechism and holy cards etc. I had to wait until much later until both of my parents had died. They were anti Catholic and I did not want to hurt them. Although I had my daughters received into the Church 11 years before I did. I look back and see that I could not confront my parents and was not mature enough to handle the disaproval from them.
I see from your post that you have much more courage than I did. You sound like a very intelligent person and the Holy Spirit will guide you in your journey.
God bless you.
Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary
I wanted to be Catholic at the age of 8, with really no knowledge of what the Church was. My only experience with it was a little girl who was Catholic. She gave me her Baltimore Catechism and holy cards etc. I had to wait until much later until both of my parents had died. They were anti Catholic and I did not want to hurt them. Although I had my daughters received into the Church 11 years before I did. I look back and see that I could not confront my parents and was not mature enough to handle the disaproval from them.
I see from your post that you have much more courage than I did. You sound like a very intelligent person and the Holy Spirit will guide you in your journey.
God bless you.
Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary
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humble_in_doubt
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what kind of Presbyterians are your parents? I know there’s PC(USA), the Orthodox PC (the real deal if you’re into hard line dogma), and the PC of America. If I were gonna be religious personally I’d probably be Episcopalian (they seem pretty liberal and cool), but I heard PC(USA) is pretty cool as well (and not too dogmatic). I grew up Catholic though & they’re not so bad either. Great liturgy (in most churches; though not all). The EOC is also pretty interesting (I had some Greek friends growing up & checked out their services before, very nice).
Just curious though … besides the RCC & EOC being older than the Presbyterian churches (obviously Presbyterianism is a reformed denomination, and Calvinist in origin), any other reason why you’re considering leaving the church you were raised in? Is it the “one true church” jingle of the RCC & EOC?
I will admit though … Catholic art is much better than Presbyterian art (OK Presbyterians have no art … so I guess that’s too easy huh?).
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mystified
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Somewhere there is a gray-haired fellow who was once in your shoes. While learning all he could about the Church, he attended classes presented by a priest. The priest told him that the Baptism of Desire would sustain him until he was no longer a minor. When he was old enough, that now dear departed padre baptized me. Aleluya!:hug1:
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srferdave
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I don’t think one should be considering these materialistic things during a discernment process. I would not join a Church just because I thought it was “cool”. I would join a Church because I believed it to teach the Truth.what kind of Presbyterians are your parents? I know there’s PC(USA), the Orthodox PC (the real deal if you’re into hard line dogma), and the PC of America. If I were gonna be religious personally I’d probably be Episcopalian (they seem pretty liberal and cool), but I heard PC(USA) is pretty cool as well (and not too dogmatic). I grew up Catholic though & they’re not so bad either. Great liturgy (in most churches; though not all). The EOC is also pretty interesting (I had some Greek friends growing up & checked out their services before, very nice).
Just curious though … besides the RCC & EOC being older than the Presbyterian churches (obviously Presbyterianism is a reformed denomination, and Calvinist in origin), any other reason why you’re considering leaving the church you were raised in? Is it the “one true church” jingle of the RCC & EOC?
I will admit though … Catholic art is much better than Presbyterian art (OK Presbyterians have no art … so I guess that’s too easy huh?).
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humble_in_doubt
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I guess you’re right … though I concede to have lost my taste for religion and all the ancient quarrels associated with it. For me association with any religion (if I were ever to associate with one, which I doubt I ever will) would probably be for pragmatic reasons (since I’m shall we say “faith challenged”).
Perhaps if my future wife moans and groans enough I can be dragged into church … but beyond that I see no reason to subscribe to any religion when logic and reason tells me none of it is true. No wish to debate the issue frankly (at least not in this thread with a confused teenager trying to find his way and all).
My advice to any young person would be to focus on school, obey the law, don’t get involved with drugs, don’t make bad personal choices with regards to your credit, if you get involved in a relationship remember to always practice safety, act intelligently, and respectfully, and always take responsibility for your personal safety (especially when you’re driving in a vehicle with other teenage friends).
The best thing you could do is expose yourself to many things and think about what you want to do in life. Religion won’t pay your mortgage, car payments, it won’t find you a good wife or girlfriend, etc. It can give you spiritual solace I suppose … but you’re 15 years old buddy. You’ll change your mind about stuff a thousand times once you hit college. Enjoy your youth & go to church on Sunday with your parents (cause you have to if they tell you to), take a few theology courses in college, maybe balance it out with some good Nietzsche or something. Trust me bro … you’ll say darn glad I listened to that dude.
I’m in my 30’s & I’ve been to college (actually I just finished law school two years ago) and I spent a bunch of time in the Army (dealing with 18 year guys right out of high school quite a bit) … and you probably don’t think so, but man you gotta bunch of stuff to learn. Just try and listen to older people who aren’t trying to sell you a bag of goods (and who generally seem like cool and happy people). Teachers at your school are probably a good source of advice (practical advice like how to get a student loan or grant).
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srferdave
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Interesting… wouldn’t commenting on this forum be considered associating with the Catholic faith. Granted, you might not agree with it.
But that is exactly what you are doing most of the time on these threads.
This is sad. I’m sorry to here your point of view on life. It’s very depressing.
Hopefully you will realize the potential in God’s love.
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wisdomseeker
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being in the Catholic Church does not stop one from learning, it only gives him the right things to learn.
you should take my advice and come back to the teachings of the Church. stop being disobedient to the Church that Christ Himself ordained and built.
it is written “if a blind man leads another, they both will fall into the pit.”
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humble_in_doubt
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Hmmm … funny I don’t feel very depressed? In fact the “world” ain’t really all that bad. I guess I could buy into fictitious mythology to help allay our natural fear of death & the unknown, but frankly I’d rather base my life on reality. What is the value of false hope anyway?This is sad. I’m sorry to here your point of view on life. It’s very depressing.
Hopefully you will realize the potential in God’s love.
Religion is fallacy, pure & simple. I’m not going to believe in little bad angels and little good angels who sway me to act one way or the other (and who interestingly seem to elude our most powerful telescopes). I’d rather acknowledge that when I screw up … it’s ME screwing up. When I do well, it’s likewise ME doing well. The typical response of religion, I’m arrogant, self-centered, and so on … or the “world” is out to get you. The way I see it’s just ancient men who anticipated logical objections to their mythology and set forth a theology that attempts to preempt those objections. I don’t say it was a bad strategy, indeed it was an excellent strategy (psychologically speaking). However, it doesn’t make it anymore true.
Can you tell me you never had doubt with regard to religion? Every now and then a little sinking feeling, what if it’s all a fairy tale? Will I just wither into dust …
Anything could be true right, but I’m pretty sure religion isn’t. Every religion has the same mantra, a god who appeared to ancient men, but who for an always profound reason doesn’t show himself today (under any circumstances). Well, if it looks like a duck and it sounds like a duck, it’s usually a duck. Don’t kill, well I never had the urge to kill so I didn’t need that one. Honestly, integrity, loyalty, etc. the Army taught me all those things better than any church could. If a soldier molested a child, he would serve life in a harsh prison (that is for as long as he could survive in prison). You guys forgive em’? I don’t necessarily complain about forgiveness, when its warranted (and when a person has actually changed, or at least has the potential for change). However, pedophiles are a defective bag of goods, yet what was the CC response? Ship them off to another parish, sweep it under the rug, make secret deals with parents, and so on. I would have liked to see some of those bishops who were really accomplices to the most horrible crime imaginable, receive some semblance of justice. I guess a protestant might say they’ll burn in hell, but sadly they won’t … because there is no hell.
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humble_in_doubt
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yeah yeah, I know I’ll burn in hell right … whatever. The scare tactics stopped working on me a long time ago. Psychological extortion only works on the gullible, and I can’t be exploited by the purveyors of nonsense; I’m just too smart! Oh yeah but I know … didn’t Paul say something about us intelligent types? I guess he was smart enough to know other smart people would know he was selling nonsense; but hey if it works for yah … best of luck.
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srferdave
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I think I would be more scared if I was an athiest and thought… what if its all true?
Some how I think, if God appeared to you on your doorstep, you still wouldn’t believe in him.
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humble_in_doubt
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fortunately I never wonder if it’s true … I know it’s not.I think I would be more scared if I was an athiest and thought… what if its all true?
sure I would … but he won’t now will he?
Man the same old line … don’t you guys have any new material?
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