I believe the Jesuits are the best Catholic order!

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Living in the remote areas of the USA, the Jesuits become a necessary function with charities funded by the CC. The CC also lends the Jesuits services to other agencies that need help, provided they are a religious organization. Because they are so young, they sometimes fall prey to the tragedies in charitable work…street addicts will tell lies, and the warm meals many times will not alter that addicts addiction for many years. Only their survival behavior to get the food is managed early on. I have seen these young Jesuits fall to gossip from the lack of understanding the clients they have chosen to help. The diocese come to the rescue for all, but the little Jesuit was bruised in the experience. Babes and Wolf. Prayer stops a mountain of confusion. 😦
 
I believe (my memory is hazy and I can’t find anything to back this up on google) ) that the various Franciscan Rules (for the OFMs, the Third order and the Poor Clares) are the last ones to be promulgated by a Papal Bull. All subsequent orders, congregations and societies have their rule based on a pre-existing Rule.
There are girls in the Jesuits Order. I have worked with the Jesuits girls a few times. 👍
 
To the OP:
I think you have been fortunate to have experiences with Jesuits that have been fruitful. That is a good thing. I would caution your attitude about not haveing the church be the end all be all of life… I certainly is set up to be and it can be. It is a tad concerning that your main point as to why the Jesuits are “cool” is that they aren’t all “churchy”. In my experiece at 2 Jesuit Colleges could not have been different. My first College was orthodox, Catholic and enriching (Carroll College) My second one was liberal, and had almost absolutely NO Catholic identity. ( Seattle University) SU Had a strong movement for women s ordination and a high homosexual population… Carroll was very Catholic and orthodox. I was fed more at Carroll.
Historically the Jesuits have been keepers of knowledge and intellectualism. Recently, some of them have been coming dangerously close to being heretics.
 
There are girls in the Jesuits Order. I have worked with the Jesuits girls a few times. 👍
There are no “female” Jesuits.
It is actually the only order that does not have a female counterpart.

There are congregations of sisters that follow the Ignatian charism, the Cenecle Sisters and the Sisters of St. Joseph are the 2 that come to mind right away,
and there may be more, but the are not part of the “Society of Jesus”.
 
Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

I implore you to refrain from judging Religious orders and congregations rashly based on just a few problematic members, lest we commit sin by giving false witnesses. Remember that you are not alone in this forum. There are among us who are discerning the religious life, and our judgments might become stumbling blocks for them. If indeed that membership in religious families are in crisis, then it is our duty to help them by promoting, not by denigrating.

God will always bring out the good from the bad: These problematic members highlight the imperfections in our understanding of God and our faith. They are the road signs that help us avoid dead-ends and dangers. (I apologize for the silly metaphor.) It’s like a microcosm of the Arians and the Donatists that forced the Church to define Her faith.

Should the Holy Catholic Church be judged because of a few of her dissenting children?
 
I believe that the true, actual, Jesuit spirituality is great and maybe the best (although I can’t say that because there are SO many good things about each form of spirituality). But the modern, gay-rights promoting, pro-abortion, pro contraceptive, pro- women priest Jesuits like many of the ones at MANY of the Jesuit colleges (and I emphasize that not ALL Jesuits are like this, there are still MANY good Jesuits) are not good. They are not the order that was founded by St. Ignatius, also read The Jesuits by Malachi Martin, it’s a good book.
 
I don’t like ( for myself to broad sweep)… Orders are composed of individuals, I’ve been influenced by some fine Jesuit Scholars…(I am opposed to the Jesuits who support Liberation Theology) that said Jesuit involvement in LT gave…the order a Bad view … Sad in that many wanted to be Very distant from that…I have a Dominican friend I admire the Scholarship , there are Contemplative orders , whose diligence in Prayer is moving… All my ramble (-: to say… I would personally hesitate to pick a Best order…(this is not a rebuke to the OP starter!!!) it’s I personally am hesitant at best…but…that’s me!!!:):):cool: pax
 
I believe they are all wonderful orders. I always thought much of the Jesuits, I find Fr Mitch on EWTN in particular interesting… 👍

God Bless
 
Ha ha…well played blasphemy…hmm
hmm, what?

If you have something to say, say it. If you want to accuse people you don’t know of mortal sin in a situation that everyone but you can see is a joke, then do it. Otherwise, please knock off the passive-aggressive remarks.

If you do so again I will report your post to the moderation staff.
 
Okay, people. The Jesuits have a rather unique spirituality, and it’s much akin to the difference between an infantryman and a special forces commando. In fact, St. Ignatius set up the Society by loosely using a military model.

These men frequently have to work in isolation, and function on the fly, much like a special forces operative has to do. They do have a superior, but report in to him. Sometimes they live in community, sometimes not. They always have a mission to bring God to the people, and to find God in all things.

They’re intellectuals, and that fact tends to put a lot of people off. Most people are downright intimidated by these brilliant men. They excel at preaching and teaching. If you are ever fortunate enough to take any university-level course taught by a Jesuit father or brother, I would advise you to never, ever skip a class, do your readings, and be prepared to defend any position you take. I’m a product of Jesuit education (Fordham and Canisius.) A Jesuit’s favorite activity in the classroom is to take your pet theory, fashion it into a club, and beat your brains out with it! My professors lived for those moments, and I could just see them rubbing their hands in anticipatory delight when a poorly prepared student got up to recite. Papers you turn in on immaculate white paper, neatly double-spaced, will return to you covered with so much red ink that you would think the instructor needed a transfusion after marking them! Trust me, though, if you survive the semester, you will have learned the material so well that you could expound on it and apply it in your sleep!

Because of their fairly intrepid mission, a loose cannon Jesuit can get out of left field a little more easily and with less detection than, say, a loose cannon member of another order or congregation. It doesn’t mean that there are more loose cannons among their society.

They continue to go to the most remote places and undertake the task of finding God in all fields of endeavor, and I do mean all fields. There is even a Jesuit who runs (or used to run) the dance department at Boston University and danced for Boston Ballet! I’ve no doubt that if humanity ever colonizes another planet, there will be a Jesuit in the second wave of exploration. I personally am impressed by their ability to expound the Gospel, and generally will drive quite a ways to hear Mass said at the local Jesuit-run parish. You don’t leave after Mass without something from one of their homilies that will nag at you for the rest of the week. It will percolate, and give you a new insight, whether you like it or not.

There’s plenty of good in the society, and I wish that people who only see the high profile and vocal outliers would keep an open mind, study some really good Jesuit-written works, maybe listen to some homilies, and stop picking on them!
 
hmm, what?

If you have something to say, say it. If you want to accuse people you don’t know of mortal sin in a situation that everyone but you can see is a joke, then do it. Otherwise, please knock off the passive-aggressive remarks.

If you do so again I will report your post to the moderation staff.
I did not accuse you of anything jasey-poo! Don’t be uptight…perhaps I suggest…that Saying The Almighty God belongs to a human order…whether of the Church or not…might be blasphemous … Since it not a thing to joke about…do show a mod…with this message : They seem to think it funny to place a Transcendent God in an Earthly order…but I see nothing wrong with it hence I report Elvis…since…God jokes are funny…:cool:
 
perhaps I suggest…that Saying The Almighty God belongs to a human order…whether of the Church or not…might be blasphemous …
You did not use the word “might” at all. I have reported your posts to the moderation staff as OI have noticed a trend with you baiting other members on the forum. Also, I will be blocking you from my reading list. Don’t bother to reply, I will not see it.
 
When you look at people like Joseph Fessio, SJ and Mitchell Pacwa, SJ., to say nothing of St. Ignatius, you have to say that Jesuit spirituality has a very high and fine place in the Church. And then you look at America Magazine of 2011 and just shake your head. It’s a conundrum to me. Good Jeb - Bad Jeb.
 
Wasn’t St. Ignatius of Loyola a member of the Secular Franciscans?😃
 
Okay, people. The Jesuits have a rather unique spirituality, and it’s much akin to the difference between an infantryman and a special forces commando. In fact, St. Ignatius set up the Society by loosely using a military model.

These men frequently have to work in isolation, and function on the fly, much like a special forces operative has to do. They do have a superior, but report in to him. Sometimes they live in community, sometimes not. They always have a mission to bring God to the people, and to find God in all things.

They’re intellectuals, and that fact tends to put a lot of people off. Most people are downright intimidated by these brilliant men. They excel at preaching and teaching. If you are ever fortunate enough to take any university-level course taught by a Jesuit father or brother, I would advise you to never, ever skip a class, do your readings, and be prepared to defend any position you take. I’m a product of Jesuit education (Fordham and Canisius.) A Jesuit’s favorite activity in the classroom is to take your pet theory, fashion it into a club, and beat your brains out with it! My professors lived for those moments, and I could just see them rubbing their hands in anticipatory delight when a poorly prepared student got up to recite. Papers you turn in on immaculate white paper, neatly double-spaced, will return to you covered with so much red ink that you would think the instructor needed a transfusion after marking them! Trust me, though, if you survive the semester, you will have learned the material so well that you could expound on it and apply it in your sleep!

Because of their fairly intrepid mission, a loose cannon Jesuit can get out of left field a little more easily and with less detection than, say, a loose cannon member of another order or congregation. It doesn’t mean that there are more loose cannons among their society.

They continue to go to the most remote places and undertake the task of finding God in all fields of endeavor, and I do mean all fields. There is even a Jesuit who runs (or used to run) the dance department at Boston University and danced for Boston Ballet! I’ve no doubt that if humanity ever colonizes another planet, there will be a Jesuit in the second wave of exploration. I personally am impressed by their ability to expound the Gospel, and generally will drive quite a ways to hear Mass said at the local Jesuit-run parish. You don’t leave after Mass without something from one of their homilies that will nag at you for the rest of the week. It will percolate, and give you a new insight, whether you like it or not.

There’s plenty of good in the society, and I wish that people who only see the high profile and vocal outliers would keep an open mind, study some really good Jesuit-written works, maybe listen to some homilies, and stop picking on them!
Very well said.👍
 
Okay, people. The Jesuits have a rather unique spirituality, and it’s much akin to the difference between an infantryman and a special forces commando. In fact, St. Ignatius set up the Society by loosely using a military model.

These men frequently have to work in isolation, and function on the fly, much like a special forces operative has to do. They do have a superior, but report in to him. Sometimes they live in community, sometimes not. They always have a mission to bring God to the people, and to find God in all things.

They’re intellectuals, and that fact tends to put a lot of people off. Most people are downright intimidated by these brilliant men. They excel at preaching and teaching. ** If you are ever fortunate enough to take any university-level course taught by a Jesuit father or brother, I would advise you to never, ever skip a class, do your readings, and be prepared to defend any position you take. ** I’m a product of Jesuit education (Fordham and Canisius.) A Jesuit’s favorite activity in the classroom is to take your pet theory, fashion it into a club, and beat your brains out with it! My professors lived for those moments, and I could just see them rubbing their hands in anticipatory delight when a poorly prepared student got up to recite. Papers you turn in on immaculate white paper, neatly double-spaced, will return to you covered with so much red ink that you would think the instructor needed a transfusion after marking them! Trust me, though, if you survive the semester, you will have learned the material so well that you could expound on it and apply it in your sleep!

Because of their fairly intrepid mission, a loose cannon Jesuit can get out of left field a little more easily and with less detection than, say, a loose cannon member of another order or congregation. It doesn’t mean that there are more loose cannons among their society.

They continue to go to the most remote places and undertake the task of finding God in all fields of endeavor, and I do mean all fields. There is even a Jesuit who runs (or used to run) the dance department at Boston University and danced for Boston Ballet! I’ve no doubt that if humanity ever colonizes another planet, there will be a Jesuit in the second wave of exploration. I personally am impressed by their ability to expound the Gospel, and generally will drive quite a ways to hear Mass said at the local Jesuit-run parish. You don’t leave after Mass without something from one of their homilies that will nag at you for the rest of the week. It will percolate, and give you a new insight, whether you like it or not.

There’s plenty of good in the society, and I wish that people who only see the high profile and vocal outliers would keep an open mind, study some really good Jesuit-written works, maybe listen to some homilies, and stop picking on them!
Could not agree more with that statement! I felt bad for those students who went in there thinking it would be easy Theo class because they were raised Christian. Boy were they wrong. By the time of the finals most students were bashing him in private, I reserved my opinions because I am afraid of God lol. One of the hardest classes I ever took, but it made my mind worked at capacities I thought were not possible. 🙂 and for that I am grateful.
 
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