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wkj_123
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That they hope and trust he will correct?
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YoungCatholicGuy
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Scripture states Jesus went to Limbo to preach to all the unbaptized souls, to call them to Life in Heaven,
An unbaptised soul waits in limbo until Jesus goes to them:
EVERYONE from Adam and Eve up to Jesus death was an UNBAPTISED SOUL and Scripture and the Catechism and Saint Peter in the New Testament state: Jesus went to Limbo during His three days in the tomb to preach to them and open the gates of Heaven for them. This is what Jesus does for unbaptised souls.
Which is why: yes, we can hope to see the baptized babies in Heaven when we get there
An unbaptised soul waits in limbo until Jesus goes to them:
EVERYONE from Adam and Eve up to Jesus death was an UNBAPTISED SOUL and Scripture and the Catechism and Saint Peter in the New Testament state: Jesus went to Limbo during His three days in the tomb to preach to them and open the gates of Heaven for them. This is what Jesus does for unbaptised souls.
Which is why: yes, we can hope to see the baptized babies in Heaven when we get there
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And maybe not everyone who died went to eternal torture. In any catechlysmic event, is it a surgical strike removing ONLY the bad and no one good is caught up as well?steve-b:
Oh please do tell what the babies did to have God drown them? Or what anyone had done to deserve eternal torture? Consuqence free? No. All I can do is hope for humanities sake that God isn’t real.
Are aborted babies innocent? Did they do anything wrong? Yet their moms and doctors who promised to do no harm, get together for that terrible act, which amounts 1.5 million innocents murdered each year in this country alone.
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EvangelistVictor
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This is what happens when we fail to share the good news of Jesus. God let it happen in Noah’s day, as it happens today. Our greatest weapon against abortion is the word of God told to humanity.
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This is what happens when we fail to share the good news of Jesus. God let it happen in Noah’s day, as it happens today. Our greatest weapon against abortion is the word of God told to humanity.
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EvangelistVictor
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Matthew 24:37-39 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
37 For as the days of Noah were, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark, 39 and they knew nothing until the flood came and swept them all away, so too will be the coming of the Son of Man.
37 For as the days of Noah were, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark, 39 and they knew nothing until the flood came and swept them all away, so too will be the coming of the Son of Man.
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Why are their findings not published in peer-review journals? In fact, all miracles attributed to saints in modern times have been things that happen naturally - spontaneous remission of cancer or other conditions. I used to get migraines. Now I don’t. If I had been praying for them to end and asked a scientist for an explanation, there wouldn’t be one forthcoming because they just don’t know what this particular event happened. That’s all the ‘doctors could find no natural explanation’ means.
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FiveLinden
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No, God did not let anything happen in Noah’s day. He did it himself, including killing all those unborn babies in the flood. At least, that’s what scripture says.
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steve-b
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Before the beginning of all creation, God knows everything that will happen. He knows everyone who is in the book of life and who isn’t.steve-b:
No, God did not let anything happen in Noah’s day. He did it himself, including killing all those unborn babies in the flood. At least, that’s what scripture says.
Does God then, predestine to Hell or Heaven anyone who doesn’t make their own decisions freely? No
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EvangelistVictor
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Yes, thats what I meant too!
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buffalo
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There is really in depth investigation to miracle. You would be amazed at the proofs needed for the church to declare a public one.
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YoungCatholicGuy
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Find one miraculous miracle that could be explained as only coincidence from the cause of the saints beautification process,
Back up your ‘opinions’ with evidence.
Back up your ‘opinions’ with evidence.
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Roseeurekacross
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Nothing is impossible to God
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FiveLinden
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These claims are not subject to normal scientific processes. And virtually all claims are of things that occur naturally. I’d like to see a saints intervention do something that doesn’t happen in the normal course of events, like a person dead for days returning to life, or all earthquakes in Japan stopping, I am not the one claiming extraordinary things. The evidence should come from the person making the claims. That’s you.
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YoungCatholicGuy
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No evidence in your ‘opinion’, no sources quoted.
Asking the opposition to prove your point as well as their own point is complete laziness and nonsensical.
Asking the opposition to prove your point as well as their own point is complete laziness and nonsensical.
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FiveLinden
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Please reduce the emotional level of your responses. It’s ok. We can talk. It is pretty well established that if someone makes an extraordinary claim: “I can fly under my own power”, no one needs to respond. They will just say “ok - show me”. So too with miracles. Someone says “God intervenes and does this which would otherwise be impossible”. Ok. So I say: “show me”. The ‘miracles’ in the Bible, were they to be substantiated would be truely evidence of divine intervention (or some sort of intervention, anyway). Walking on water, creating tonnes of food from a few loves and fishes,resurrecting already decaying bodies, curing leprosy prior to science finding out how, etc. However the ‘miracles’ claimed for those becoming saints are events that happen anyway, such as spontaneous remission from cancer. How come, if the point it to prove the sainthood of someone, God does not re-grow a limb? Or resurrect a cremated body? Or, maybe, reverse global warming? How come every ‘miracle’ is a normal event unlike those in the Bible. My answer is: they are not miracles. They are pious imaginings. I respect those who believe them on faith. But my logic cannot accept their faith.
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thistle
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However, it was not necessarily a global flood. In fact it was more likely a regional flood. The Church does not have a teaching on this. The Church allows interpretations.
See also this: Genesis and the Epic of Gilgamesh | Catholic Answers
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YoungCatholicGuy
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You asked for evidence of miracles?
Here is some recorded evidence from the VatIcan Approved Catholic Charismaric renewal of people being healed in Jesus Name, watch these videos and you will see: the lame walk, the blind see, the deaf hear, diseases cured, just as scripture says.
It is not coincidence that these people were only healed when prayed over in Jesus Name.
Neither is it magical powers as human beings do not have psychic powers. When was the last time you healed a deaf person?
Here is some recorded evidence from the VatIcan Approved Catholic Charismaric renewal of people being healed in Jesus Name, watch these videos and you will see: the lame walk, the blind see, the deaf hear, diseases cured, just as scripture says.
It is not coincidence that these people were only healed when prayed over in Jesus Name.
Neither is it magical powers as human beings do not have psychic powers. When was the last time you healed a deaf person?
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YoungCatholicGuy
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Google the Scientifically proven Miracle of Laciano in Italy. The Eucharist turned into actual flesh and blood of a human heart and has remained incorrupt for 300 years.
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KevinK
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There is nothing scientifically proven about this at all. It is wishful thinking and confirmation bias.
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