I don't know if I want children

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I am currently in RCIA, and day by day find myself growing more and more convinced that Catholicism is the truest and best form of Christianity. This change is taking place to the point that my priest has nearly convinced me to return to a chaste lifestyle (my prior lifestyle being sexually colorful, and I am currently living with my boyfriend of a year) and my boyfriend and I are going to meet with him together after the first of the year to discuss our future, as well as my boyfriend’s possible return to the Church.

I know I want to marry. I love my boyfriend very much, and he is the man who I can see myself marrying, when the time is right. My problem is this: I don’t know if I want children. He is indifferent on the subject, at least for now, he would have children if I wanted them, he would be equally willing, I believe, to not have them. I love kids, but I am a spontaneous, impetuous person. I want to get my doctorate, which, with me being a freshman in college, will be six to eight years from now. I want to be an archaeologist, and travel. I want the freedom to enjoy life, wherever, whenever, with the man I love. I don’t want to be tied to a home by a child, or children. Furthermore, the idea of being responsible for another human being frightens me to no end. My dog is difficult enough! To produce a human life, to be responsible for its life, its education, its spiritual wellbeing, and to have someone relying on me, at first helplessly, then as a learning growing child and teenager, and later on as a fledgling adult—this is possibly the scariest thing I could ever imagine. And as if this is not enough–I grew up without any real role models for parents. My father was a religious zealot who twisted everything about the Bible to suit his own views, never allowed us in church because he knew better than every pastor, and frightened us constantly with lurid tales of the rapture and apocalypse. He emotionally abused me and my mother, and I am in psychological counseling with my priest to help me move past the issues created by this. My mother is more of a sister or friend to me than a mother—there was nothing she could do by try to soften what he did to us—she couldn’t actually be a parent. I don’t know how to be a parent.

Can I still marry, even if I don’t know if I want to have children? It doesn’t seem fair that I be denied the companionship of a lifetime partner in the man I love, just because I honestly don’t know if I am suited to be a parent. I would hate to bring a child into the world just because I am told I am supposed to, and fail at parenting.
 
You can still marry because it can be consummated. But we must all be open to the gift of life. Anything else is a sin.
 
Several years ago, I could have written your post - down to the part about the dogs being hard enough :). When my husband and I got engaged, he ended up deciding to be Catholic, though I wasn’t really practicing at the time. We went back to Church together.

We talked and talked about it, and I decided that I would be okay with having children as long as I could adopt - it was the dependency that freaked me out, not the children themselves, and I figured that through adoption, we could have a child rather than a baby.

God is verypatient :). Four years later, we’re in the process of foster-adopt, and open to having biological children as well.

It’s taken (me specifically) a really long time to reach this point. Since I was a little kid, everyone always told me not to get pregnant. I was the smart kid; I had a bright future - everyone always told me I would wreck everything if I got pregnant out of wedlock. I really internalized that message - to the point that I was convinced that ever having kids would ruin my entire life. I’d have no career, no life, and spend all my time running after snot-nosed brats. Pregnancy was this terrible nightmare, the ultimate worst thing that could ever happen.

My parents weren’t very open to life, and neither were most other people I knew. I rarely saw anyone pregnant, maybe twice saw someone nursing. The people who did get pregnant weren’t doing “enough” with their lives, in my mind (and sometimes I was explicitly told this).

Be patient. Pray. You don’t have to want kids now - but examine the reasons that you were taught not to want them. Think hard about what cultural assumptions you were steeped in; realize the types of environments you are in (I’m in a grad program now, and believe me - kids are seen there as a total nightmare and career ender … ridiculous, esp. considering that our best faculty member is a devout Catholic with two of them). Try to unpack all that stuff, and probably, like me, you’ll start to see the pattern :).

Congratulations on your return to the Church!
 
I want to get my doctorate, which, with me being a freshman in college, will be six to eight years from now.
Try anywhere between 8 and 12 more years depending on the field. Most people do a masters in 2 years if done full-time, then add on another 3-5 for a Doctorate if done quickly…

To comment on your predicament, I believe it is required that a married Catholic couple be open to life unless some serious, grave reason is present for the avoidance of children for a time. It is not required to have children, but it is required that you at least be open to it (in mind and action, aka no ABC)
 
To comment on your predicament, I believe it is required that a married Catholic couple be open to life unless some serious, grave reason is present for the avoidance of children for a time. It is not required to have children, but it is required that you at least be open to it (in mind and action, aka no ABC)
Would being unsure if you are qualified to raise a child be considered a serious, grave reason? I don’t necessarily think everyone is suited to be a parent.
 
Hi hadassahjones - boy I read a lot of things into your postings. I see you struggling with the ‘I don’t want to have kids right now because my spouse and I want to travel first or have a career or …’, I see you expressing doubts about your ability to be a good parent. I see you expressing the deep, deep wounds from your upbringing, I see you cry foul because you shouldn’t be denied a lifetime companion just because you’re unsure about having children. Lot of issues to deal with there. But you know what seems to be a major underlying factor - fear. As Jesus said to Jairus - ‘fear is useless, what is needed is trust’.
If you are Catholic or going to be, I think you need to take a good hard look at what marriage is and what love is (before you get married–I’m not saying don’t get married but give yourself a fighting chance). I’ve been married 18 years, through the grace of God, but I only learned what marriage is and what love is in the last 2 years (starting with my cursillo in Jan 2007). I would recommend Fr. Corapi’s CD titled The Sanctity of Marriage - it blew things wide open for me. Parenting is sacrifice and work but it’s also one of the greatest joys.
I will offer my morning prayers for you.
I think you would be a terrific parent. You stay close to God and to other good people around you and I think your kids will be the luckiest kids.
 
**“Fear is more pain than is the pain it fears”. **- Sir Philip Sidney’s sonnet “Arcadia”.

Think this over and over and over. See the millions, billions, of parents who successfully raise children- and remember that every parent was a first-timer once! Pray to the Holy Spirit for guidance and courage!!

Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of Thy faithful and enkindle in them the fire of Thy love. Send forth Thy Spirit and they shall be created. And Thou shalt renew the face of the earth.
 
One of the greatest tragedies of our time in my humble opinion is the attitude that bearing and raising children is such an “inconvenience”. Some here who have read some of my other posts may find my comments on this subject rather ironic since I myself will not be bearing any children. (I have an impediment to marriage.) However, I am still very much in support of traditional families and see children as a blessing and gift from God. (my support of traditional families is not limited only to this type of family however…) I would like to see less obsession with careers at the expense of family life and wish our society would be more geared toward the family. - Tshawn
 
I have had what is considered a large family…eight children.

I don’t regret one minute of it!

I have been a widow for ten years now, and live alone. Only two of my children and their families live in the area I live in, and all the others visit, on average, once a year or once every two years.

We keep in touch with family e-mails and try to have a huge reunion once every three years. Mostly we have mini-reunions with two or three families when it can work out.

What a blessing in my senior years to sit back and reap the rewards of all the years of frugal living ( no problem). I was always a stay-at-home-mom and wouldn’t have it any other way.

Children, family are forever! Things like travel, important careers, etc. are just for a short time.
 
It’s not just my career that I’m concerned with. The main reason for my worry is that I feel I may not be emotionally capable of being a mother.
 
It’s not just my career that I’m concerned with. The main reason for my worry is that I feel I may not be emotionally capable of being a mother.
Can you trust God with that?

I wasn’t big on having kids myself (in fact, it would be accurate to sa I was afraid), but God had other plans for us. We were only blessed with one, and she’s 16 now, but I can’t imagine what life would’ve been like without her.
 
It’s not just my career that I’m concerned with. The main reason for my worry is that I feel I may not be emotionally capable of being a mother.
When the Lord gives us children all we have to do is ask for the grace to do the best we can and He will give it.
 
Could it also be that you’re also uncomfortable around children, period? I used to think that I ABSOLUTELY did not want kids at all, because I was actually kind of afraid around them and very uncomfortable. I’m now getting to the point where I would be happy being called to singleness or to marriage/children. Not quite there yet, and I personally want to stay single, but after becoming an aunt and also spending time with my friends’ children, I’m alot more comfortable with the idea of having my own. Some of them lack any sort of dicipline and can be complete terrors (though they do have their times when they are very great and loving), but some are absolutely WONDERFUL most of the time (except when they’re hungry or sleepy) and I can’t wait to see them grow into adults, because they have great role models for adults. Another thing that has made me become more warmed up to the idea is spending time with parents that I admire, that raise their children with both love and dicipline, so I can “see how it’s done” so to speak.

I will be praying for you that you will seek God’s will in this matter.

God Bless!
Ericka
 
It’s not just my career that I’m concerned with. The main reason for my worry is that I feel I may not be emotionally capable of being a mother.
Find me one woman who feels she is “emotionally capable of being a mother” at all times in her (childbearing) life!! You don’t have to feel emotionally capable of it, you just have to be willing to accept it.

I would say I feel most emotionally (or physically, or mentally, or spiritually) capable from 8:00pm or so to around 8:30am 😃 . I would say at around 4:30 pm (dad gets home at 5:30), Monday thru Friday, I’m emotionally ready to let him watch Dora for hours, even though that morning I swore he was never going to watch TV again!

My point is, do you feel emotionally ready to do anything unknown? Or anything known that is important? All of life is scary!
 
I appreciate everyone’s responses. I know that I have to trust God to give me the strength when the time comes.

I want to break the cycle of bad choices that the women of the last two generations of my family have made in men and family. I believe that I’ve found a good man, and I want to have a good family. If I have a child, I want him/her to have a good, nurturing father, parents who know and trust God through the Church, and to grow up mentally and emotionally healthy.

I am praying every day that the counseling I am in with my priest will finally heal my emotional and mental problems left over from what my father did. When that happens, maybe I will feel better equipped to bring another human being into this world and not fear so much that my child will have the same problems I have.
 
Hadassajones,

I wish you well in recovery from many years of poor spiritual formation at the hands of your father. Hopefully his intentions were good and knowing that may help? I also hope you will be patient for the healing process to take place. I was raised in a very strict fundamentalist Pentecostal Church and from the Pastor on down to my family, have all left me with some serious emotional scars that for which I also sought and received counseling. It can take years to let go of all that baggage. Do you ever spend time before the Blessed Sacrament contemplating Jesus? Maybe reading the gospels while you are there to help? I have done some of this and planning to continue more to help me with my own issues. It sounds to me like you are already in the healing process and counseling from a good priest must be helping as well. I feel confident that you will not repeat the mistakes your parents have made with you. Maybe praying in intercessory prayer to St. Monica (St. Augustine’s mother) for the conversion of your parents may help too? God bless you on your journey! - TShawn
 
This is the line that worries me
I know I want to marry. I love my boyfriend very much, and he is the man who I can see myself marrying, when the time is right.
You realize of course that the state you are in is sinful unless you are living with your boyfriend as brother and sister. I have never gone through RCIA since I’m a cradle Catholic so I dont know exactly what is required at the point of becoming a Catholic, but what will you do, before being accepted in the CC, about confession and Holy Communion. If you confess that you are living with your boyfriend and have no intention of moving out then the confession will be a bad one and will be a sacriledge to receive Holy Communion.
Also, all couples seeking marriage are asked if they will accept children willingly. If you say yes but actually mean no, it could make for an invalid marriage. So the best thing to do is to explain all of this if you havent yet to the priest or even send a PM to Fr. Serpa of on the Q&A. Personally I think this is too big an issue to discuss on the forum as you may get many conflicting answers.

May prayers are with you…
 
Trust me, I’m in the exact same boat. I love kids (most of the time) so long as they’re not mine. I have* all* the same reasons for not wanting kids that you do. My parents divorced when I was three and I was abused as a small child, so odds are if I ever had kids, they would meet the same fate. I to don’t think I would be a suitable mental and emotional resource for any kids as I have a tendency to be either completely over bearing or very impatient. Probably due to my parents (my dad cottled me and my mom abused me) I am also a freshmen in college who has dreams of traveling and being free to move around and drop everything and leave somewhere if I chose. And to top it off, *unlike *you, I have not even come close to finding the right guy. I have so much fear of committment and trust issues, in terms of other people, that I am really averse to dating, let alone childbearing.

I figure that, me still being a teenager and all, having this kind of an attitude right now is not such a bad thing. It might change, but I doubt it.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know your not alone with these thoughts.
 
Trust me, I’m in the exact same boat. I love kids (most of the time) so long as they’re not mine. I have* all* the same reasons for not wanting kids that you do. My parents divorced when I was three and I was abused as a small child, so odds are if I ever had kids, they would meet the same fate. I to don’t think I would be a suitable mental and emotional resource for any kids as I have a tendency to be either completely over bearing or very impatient. Probably due to my parents (my dad cottled me and my mom abused me) I am also a freshmen in college who has dreams of traveling and being free to move around and drop everything and leave somewhere if I chose. And to top it off, *unlike *you, I have not even come close to finding the right guy. I have so much fear of committment and trust issues, in terms of other people, that I am really averse to dating, let alone childbearing.

I figure that, me still being a teenager and all, having this kind of an attitude right now is not such a bad thing. It might change, but I doubt it.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know your not alone with these thoughts.
Not everyone that is abused goes on to abuse their children. My brothers father beat him all the time…he has three boys of his own and has never done such a thing.
I know you are young, but being able to travel and do as you please are very selfish reasons for not wanting children.
I hope you are getting some help to get past your childhood. If you want to be out in the world, even just working, you are going to have to learn to trust people. Talk to your priest.
 
I know you are young, but being able to travel and do as you please are very selfish reasons for not wanting children.
Well, if I am selfish, all the more reason for me not to have children.
 
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