I don't understand the Eucharist

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In addition to the solid answers above, let me add this.

Last night, I was at training to become an extraordinary minister of the Eucharist. Our deacon related one of the best analogies I’ve heard about the duality of the real presence and the accidents.

I am a man. I dated a woman. When we got married, we became husband and wife. But, we are still man and woman while also being husband and wife. Pick any similar relationship (parenthood, etc.). Similarly, the bread and wine are also the body and blood of Jesus. But, they are also bread and wine.
 
In addition to the solid answers above, let me add this.

Last night, I was at training to become an extraordinary minister of the Eucharist. Our deacon related one of the best analogies I’ve heard about the duality of the real presence and the accidents.

I am a man. I dated a woman. When we got married, we became husband and wife. But, we are still man and woman while also being husband and wife. Pick any similar relationship (parenthood, etc.). Similarly, the bread and wine are also the body and blood of Jesus. But, they are also bread and wine.
However in the analogy the essence is not changed.
 
This will likely sound silly, but I have never really comprehended what exactly people mean when they say that the bread and wine offered during Eucharist become the literal blood and body of Jesus.

By literal, is it genuinely literal? Consuming actual flesh and blood? My understanding of it doesn’t seem complete. I tried reading about Transubstantiation but I still wasn’t fully able to glean understanding.

I read that “The signs of bread and wine become, in a way surpassing understanding, the Body and Blood of Christ.” So is it not meant to be fully understood?

Some denominations say that it does not literally become the body and blood of Jesus Christ. So why the distinction? Is it an important distinction for denominations to consider it symbolic vs. literal vs. nothing?

If this has been answered before, would you lead me to the answer? Sorry for the confusion I just don’t really understand.
Depends on what you mean by “literal”. The Church uses different language to describe it. This from the Catechism gives an example of the language used by the Church to describe it…

1413 By the consecration the transubstantiation of the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ is brought about. Under the consecrated species of bread and wine Christ himself, living and glorious, is present in a true, real, and substantial manner: his Body and his Blood, with his soul and his divinity (cf. Council of Trent: DS 1640; 1651).
 
How about this explanation:

When the Jews celebrate Passover, they do not imitate it, but are experiencing the only Passover as it is happening.
 
I always thought it was silly when people thought the Eucharist was purely symbolic that doesn’t make any sense if you know anything about early Christianity and it never looks that way in scripture. Of course, this is no offense to people who believe that I’m just giving you my point of view.
It may be wrong, but sometimes what seems obviously wrong and silly to one is actually well thought out by another who has a different education. I routinely meet people who think engineers are stupid. Usually these are people who are completely incapable of passing half the science and math an engineer takes just to reach an entry level position. So I will show you another perspective. I am not saying this perspective is right, but the one thing you cannot say is that it is entirely irrational or silly. Sometimes choosing between a difference of human opinion or knowledge does not come down to who is more reasonable.

In John 6 Jesus does indeed talk of eating his flesh and drinking His blood. He even goes so far as to say that His flesh is real food and his blood is real drink. It is no surprise that the superficial disciple of the day would think he meant canibalism. However He also states that, “the flesh profits nothing it is the spirit that gives life. The words I speak to you, they are Spirit and they are life.” Peter’s also responds “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.” People who believe communion is a representative ritual believe that Peter actually understood the thesis of Christs lesson feeding the five thousand that it was not bread but every word that proceeds from the mouth of God that nurishes to eternal life. In particular it is the word of the Son. Furthermore Jesus himself said that it was the work of God that his audience believe in “him who sent me.” All this is in the John 6 passage where Jesus explains the feeding of the five thousand and the mana in the wilderness. Believing is a response to hearing, so we can reasonably understand that Jesus was speaking about Himself as the bread of life and as the word made flesh it was believing His word that is the act of eating his flesh. Again, not to say this view is the right one. I know this is a catholic forum. I just don’t think it’s fair to say such a notion is silly as though it were composed merely on wishful thinking. There is actually hermeneutical evidence for this theory.

If one first assumes the above theory of John 6, looking at the last supper, we see Jesus say, “take, eat, this is my body which is broken for you.” Now, understandably, the catholic position is to connect this event with the John 6 teaching and say that Jesus was actually handing them His literal body. However at this point, His Body was not yet glorified. So it might be reasonable to think that when He said ‘this’ he was not referring to the one loaf he was breaking at that moment. But to the Passover bread as an element of the prophetic feast which fortold his redemptive work and suffering even to the cross. Then he says, “do this in rememberence of me.” Which could reasonably signify that the Passover no longer looks forward to the cross, but that the Passover lamb, bread, and cup which once looked forward in hope now look back in thanksgiving at the completed work of redemption.

Paul warns of eating and drinking judgement on ourselves not discerning the Lord’s body. Clearly, it would be consistent to say that recognizing the lord’s body would refer to His actual body. However, consider if the bread and wine were merely representative. Should there be no judgement against profaning Jesus in effigy? It seems to me either treatment of this passage is internally consistent.

In many cases the difference between catholic and post catholic theology is a matter of both/and vs either/or. The thing is that either explanation of these scriptures has explanatory power of the scripture itself. Neither the catholic nor the post catholic view is internally contradictory. In order to choose between these competing views one must determine whether the succession authority of the magisterium is intact and therefore the sacramental view of Christian rites is in fact correct. And if it is, the Eucharistic celebration not only means, all the above, it literally contains and imbues the participant with these truths.
 
Time for the rubber to hit the road! The Eucharist is not a thing - it is a Person, and that Divine Person is living. Call your local parish and find out when they offer adoration of our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. Then, just go and sit silently in His presence with a humble heart. Tell him of any doubt and confusion that you may still have. Beg Him, even, to reveal His presence to your heart. Then, be as patient with Him as He has been with you. It may take some time, but it 100% worth every moment. At that moment when He reveals Himself via the Holy Spirit, you will be changed.

A good book: 7 Secrets of the Eucharist by Vinny Flynn.
 
How about this explanation:

When the Jews celebrate Passover, they do not imitate it, but are experiencing the only Passover as it is happening.
Do the Jews see it that way or is this idea supplied by an outsider after the fact?
 
I always thought it was silly when people thought the Eucharist was purely symbolic that doesn’t make any sense if you know anything about early Christianity and it never looks that way in scripture. Of course, this is no offense to people who believe that I’m just giving you my point of view.
I think I’ve answered the scripture side of this. Have you got some ‘wiz bang’ reference to the early church fathers on the doctrine of transubstantiation? I looked a couple years ago and didn’t find anything any more distinguishing than what I already referenced in scripture.
 
Time for the rubber to hit the road! The Eucharist is not a thing - it is a Person, and that Divine Person is living. Call your local parish and find out when they offer adoration of our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. Then, just go and sit silently in His presence with a humble heart. Tell him of any doubt and confusion that you may still have. Beg Him, even, to reveal His presence to your heart. Then, be as patient with Him as He has been with you. It may take some time, but it 100% worth every moment. At that moment when He reveals Himself via the Holy Spirit, you will be changed.

A good book: 7 Secrets of the Eucharist by Vinny Flynn.
One thing I am terrified of is self brainwashing. Sitting reflectively in a room with all the beauty of Eucharistic worship for adoration, a key to John Paul II’s new evangelization might create a somatic physiological response or moment of certainty that’s really just chemistry. I don’t know the answer. I can tell you that as a human I am extremely guilable–especially to my self.
 
This will likely sound silly, but I have never really comprehended what exactly people mean when they say that the bread and wine offered during Eucharist become the literal blood and body of Jesus.

By literal, is it genuinely literal? Consuming actual flesh and blood? My understanding of it doesn’t seem complete. I tried reading about Transubstantiation but I still wasn’t fully able to glean understanding.

I read that “The signs of bread and wine become, in a way surpassing understanding, the Body and Blood of Christ.” So is it not meant to be fully understood?

Some denominations say that it does not literally become the body and blood of Jesus Christ. So why the distinction? Is it an important distinction for denominations to consider it symbolic vs. literal vs. nothing?

If this has been answered before, would you lead me to the answer? Sorry for the confusion I just don’t really understand.
In some sense, the idea that we are taking part in Christ’s body, blood, soul and divinity under the appearance of bread and wine will forever boggle the senses and the rational mind. It’s the spirit that gives life, though, not the flesh. (see John 6:63), and I mean that in the Catholic understanding of that passage, that we know and live by faith and acceptance of the Spirit, not simply by the rational faculties of our human body, which cannot comprehend it and are at risk of rejecting it. It’s a miracle, an act of God, that makes the Eucharist possible. Not any natural phenomena.

The consecrated host does not become slabs of Christ’s flesh. This host does not become a strip of flesh from Christ’s cheek, and that host does not become a strip off of Christ’s thigh. There’s no localization of division caused in Christ. Whatever the host looks and tastes like, or appears to be under any form of analysis, it is has changed. It is now Christ in his entirety, his glorified (post-resurrection) humanity (body, blood, soul) and his divinity. Each and every particle of each consecrated host has become fully him. While the host can be divided, Christ is not. As I said, it’s not localized parts of Christ, as a person would be extended normally in a physical space. It’s simply him in his entirety. The same for the contents of the chalice.

Christ gives Himself to us as spiritual nourishment, as a re-affirmation of our covenant, to allow us to partake the divine nature, to allow us to participate in his total giving of self on the cross and his resurrection that we all hope to share in.
 
It may be wrong, but sometimes what seems obviously wrong and silly to one is actually well thought out by another who has a different education. I routinely meet people who think engineers are stupid. Usually these are people who are completely incapable of passing half the science and math an engineer takes just to reach an entry level position. So I will show you another perspective. I am not saying this perspective is right, but the one thing you cannot say is that it is entirely irrational or silly. Sometimes choosing between a difference of human opinion or knowledge does not come down to who is more reasonable.

In John 6 Jesus does indeed talk of eating his flesh and drinking His blood. He even goes so far as to say that His flesh is real food and his blood is real drink. It is no surprise that the superficial disciple of the day would think he meant canibalism. However He also states that, “the flesh profits nothing it is the spirit that gives life. The words I speak to you, they are Spirit and they are life.” Peter’s also responds “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.” People who believe communion is a representative ritual believe that Peter actually understood the thesis of Christs lesson feeding the five thousand that it was not bread but every word that proceeds from the mouth of God that nurishes to eternal life. In particular it is the word of the Son. Furthermore Jesus himself said that it was the work of God that his audience believe in “him who sent me.” All this is in the John 6 passage where Jesus explains the feeding of the five thousand and the mana in the wilderness. Believing is a response to hearing, so we can reasonably understand that Jesus was speaking about Himself as the bread of life and as the word made flesh it was believing His word that is the act of eating his flesh. Again, not to say this view is the right one. I know this is a catholic forum. I just don’t think it’s fair to say such a notion is silly as though it were composed merely on wishful thinking. There is actually hermeneutical evidence for this theory.

If one first assumes the above theory of John 6, looking at the last supper, we see Jesus say, “take, eat, this is my body which is broken for you.” Now, understandably, the catholic position is to connect this event with the John 6 teaching and say that Jesus was actually handing them His literal body. However at this point, His Body was not yet glorified. So it might be reasonable to think that when He said ‘this’ he was not referring to the one loaf he was breaking at that moment. But to the Passover bread as an element of the prophetic feast which fortold his redemptive work and suffering even to the cross. Then he says, “do this in rememberence of me.” Which could reasonably signify that the Passover no longer looks forward to the cross, but that the Passover lamb, bread, and cup which once looked forward in hope now look back in thanksgiving at the completed work of redemption.

Paul warns of eating and drinking judgement on ourselves not discerning the Lord’s body. Clearly, it would be consistent to say that recognizing the lord’s body would refer to His actual body. However, consider if the bread and wine were merely representative. Should there be no judgement against profaning Jesus in effigy? It seems to me either treatment of this passage is internally consistent.

In many cases the difference between catholic and post catholic theology is a matter of both/and vs either/or. The thing is that either explanation of these scriptures has explanatory power of the scripture itself. Neither the catholic nor the post catholic view is internally contradictory. In order to choose between these competing views one must determine whether the succession authority of the magisterium is intact and therefore the sacramental view of Christian rites is in fact correct. And if it is, the Eucharistic celebration not only means, all the above, it literally contains and imbues the participant with these truths.
Consider how Christianity has viewed the Eucharist over time:

Ignatius of Antioch, who died approximately 105 AD, was the third bishop of Antioch. He wrote that those who do not accept the real presence of the Eucharist were heretics. He also indicated the Eucharist must be administered by the bishop.

Acts 11 indicates the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch.

Justin Martyr also wrote about the real presence in the 2nd century.

Fast forward to Luther in the 16th century who modified the real presence view (present with or beside rather than transubstantiation) as compared to the Catholic view. Meanwhile, Zwingli popularized the view that it is a mere symbol while Calvin was somewhere in the middle.

So, either the original Christians had it right (e.g. those who learned directly from the apostles of Christ) or Jesus didn’t reveal the truth until 1,500 years after His ascension.

Even if we went with the 1,500 year approach, it would be impossible to discern which of the three received the “truth”.
 
Do the Jews see it that way or is this idea supplied by an outsider after the fact?
“τοῦτο ποιεῖτε εἰς τὴν ἐμὴν ἀνάμνησιν”, (Luke 22:19, 1 Corinthians 11:24-25).

It comes from the Greek anamnesis (underlined above), which is seen as a Greek equivalent to the Hebrew zikaron, and which is commonly translated as “in memory” or as “in remembrance” in English Bibles.

A quick search for a Jewish use of the word zikaron: chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/1269920/jewish/History-or-Memory.htm
It is for this reason that much of Jewish tradition and ritual draws on reenactment. We don’t just commemorate, we remember. We don’t just recount someone else’s story, we relive our own.
A few examples:
Much of the Seder curriculum aims to stimulate feelings of slavery and bitterness (e.g., the salt water, bitter herbs, poor man’s bread—a.k.a. matzah, and so on), as well as royalty and liberty (four cups of wine, leaning on cushions, and the like).
In fact, in certain Jewish communities, the seventh night of Passover (the night the sea split for the Jews) finds many walking through pails of water to recreate that event.
On Shavuot we stay up the entire night in anticipation of the giving of the Torah on the morrow, and children are brought to synagogue to hear the Ten Commandments from G‑d.
He’s not just the G‑d we heard about, but the G‑d we heard from. In fact, Judaism teaches that, in soul, we were all present at Sinai;1 each one of us personally encountered G‑d. Consequently, G‑d is not just the G‑d of our ancestors; He is our G‑d. He’s not just the G‑d we heard about, but the G‑d we heard from.
The use of anamnesis in Jesus’ instruction to repeat the Last Supper is a call to make it a living memory, something through which we are all made present at Christ’s Last Supper, his crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension. They are not mere history, but our living experience. It seems to apply to all the sacraments the Church uses.
 
“τοῦτο ποιεῖτε εἰς τὴν ἐμὴν ἀνάμνησιν”, (Luke 22:19, 1 Corinthians 11:24-25).

It comes from the Greek anamnesis (underlined above), which is seen as a Greek equivalent to the Hebrew zikaron, and which is commonly translated as “in memory” or as “in remembrance” in English Bibles.

A quick search for a Jewish use of the word zikaron: chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/1269920/jewish/History-or-Memory.htm

The use of anamnesis in Jesus’ instruction to repeat the Last Supper is a call to make it a living memory, something through which we are all made present at Christ’s Last Supper, his crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension. They are not mere history, but our living experience. It seems to apply to all the sacraments the Church uses.
That would explain how Levi paid tithes to Melchizedek. Except we don’t read that he partook of a ritual that made him present. He just was by birth–unless I forgot something.
 
Consider how Christianity has viewed the Eucharist over time:

Ignatius of Antioch, who died approximately 105 AD, was the third bishop of Antioch. He wrote that those who do not accept the real presence of the Eucharist were heretics. He also indicated the Eucharist must be administered by the bishop.

Acts 11 indicates the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch.

Justin Martyr also wrote about the real presence in the 2nd century.

Fast forward to Luther in the 16th century who modified the real presence view (present with or beside rather than transubstantiation) as compared to the Catholic view. Meanwhile, Zwingli popularized the view that it is a mere symbol while Calvin was somewhere in the middle.

So, either the original Christians had it right (e.g. those who learned directly from the apostles of Christ) or Jesus didn’t reveal the truth until 1,500 years after His ascension.

Even if we went with the 1,500 year approach, it would be impossible to discern which of the three received the “truth”.
Clement copied from within an argument:
onefold.wordpress.com/early-church-evidence-refutes-real-presence/
“But we are God-taught, and glory in the name of Christ. How then are we not to regard the apostle as attaching this sense to the milk of the babes? And if we who preside over the Churches are shepherds after the image of the good Shepherd, and you the sheep, are we not to regard the Lord as preserving consistency in the use of figurative speech, when He speaks also of the milk of the flock?… Elsewhere the Lord, in the Gospel according to John, brought this out by symbols, when He said: “Eat ye my flesh, and drink my blood; ” describing distinctly by metaphor the drinkable properties of faith and the promise, by means of which the Church, like a human being consisting of many members, is refreshed and grows, is welded together and compacted of both,–of faith, which is the body, and of hope, which is the soul; as also the Lord of flesh and blood. For in reality the blood of faith is hope, in which faith is held as by a vital principle.” (ibid)

Clement continues his instruction that Christ is food with the metaphorical explanation.

“’I,’ says the Lord, ‘have meat to eat that ye know not of. My meat is to do the will of Him that sent Me.’ You see another kind of food which, similarly with milk, represents figuratively the will of God. Besides, also, the completion of His own passion He called catachrestically “a cup,” when He alone had to drink and drain it. Thus to Christ the fulfilling of His Father’s will was food; and to us infants, who drink the milk of the word of the heavens, Christ Himself is food. Hence seeking is called sucking; for to those babes that seek the Word, the Father’s breasts of love supply milk.” (ibid)

And Clement concludes the chapter with this:

“Thus in many ways the Word is figuratively described, as meat, and flesh, and food, and bread, and blood, and milk. The Lord is all these, to give enjoyment to us who have believed on Him. Let no one then think it strange, when we say that the Lord’s blood is figuratively represented as milk. For is it not figuratively represented as wine? “Who washes,” it is said, “His garment in wine, His robe in the blood of the grape.” In His Own Spirit He says He will deck the body of the Word; as certainly by His own Spirit He will nourish those who hunger for the Word.” (ibid)
 
Origin:“Now, if ‘everything that entereth into the mouth goes into the belly and is cast out into the drought,’ even the meat which has been sanctified through the word of God and prayer, in accordance with the fact that it is material, goes into the belly and is cast out into the draught, but in respect of the prayer which comes upon it, according to the proportion of the faith, becomes a benefit and is a means of clear vision to the mind which looks to that which is beneficial, and it is not the material of the bread but the word which is said over it which is of advantage to him who eats it not unworthily of the Lord. And these things indeed are said of the typical and symbolical body. But many things might be said about the Word Himself who became flesh, and true meat of which he that eateth shall assuredly live for ever, no worthless person being able to eat it; for if it were possible for one who continues worthless to eat of Him who became flesh. who was the Word and the living bread, it would not have been written, that ‘every one who eats of this bread shall live for ever.’” (Origen, Commentary on Mathew 11:14)

And leading up to this explanation, Origen expounded in more detail:

“‘For if any one should turn to the Lord, the veil is taken away, and the Lord is the Spirit.’ Now some one when dealing with the passage might say, that just as ‘not that which entereth into the mouth defileth the man,’ of even though it may be thought by the Jews to be defiled, so not that which entereth into the mouth sanctifieth the man, even though what is called the bread of the Lord may be thought by the simpler disciples to sanctify. And the saying is I think, not to be despised, and on this account, demands clear exposition, which seems to me to be thus; as it is not the meat but the conscience of him who eats with doubt which defiles him that eateth, for ‘he that doubteth is condemned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith,’ and as nothing is pure to him who is defiled and unbelieving, not in itself, but because of his defilement and unbelief, so that which is sanctified through the word of God and prayer does not, in its own nature, sanctify him who uses it, for, if this were so, it would sanctify even him who eats unworthily of the bread of the Lord, and no one on account of this food would become weak or sickly or asleep for something of this kind Paul represented in saying, ‘For this cause many among you are weak and sickly and not a few sleep.’ And in the case of the bread of the Lord, accordingly, there is advantage to him who uses it, when with undefiled mind and pure conscience he partakes of the bread. And so neither by not eating, I mean by the very fact that we do not eat of the bread which has been sanctified by the word of God and prayer, are we deprived of any good thing, nor by eating are we the better by any good thing; for the cause of our lacking is wickedness and sins, and the cause of our abounding is righteousness and right actions; so that such is the meaning of what is said by Paul, ‘For neither if we eat are we the better, nor if we eat not are we the worse.’” (ibid)
 
It looks to me like the doctrine of the real presence could be explained as an example of an early doctrine that was quickly propagated by popular misconception despite the best efforts of the fathers. Sometimes when looking at “early” dates we can forget how little time it takes for controversy to develop. For example, the level of disagreement about the correct interpretation of the US Constitution barely 240 years old. We know of things in practice today among Catholics that are in conflict with the churches teaching although popular. Significant criticism from evangelicals is aimed at incorrect practice. No doubt there is a risk that such things can creep into the priesthood. Clement and Origen’s explanation of communion is virtually identical to my view but I got mine from reading the scriptures. I find bible-oloters will come up with some strange theories to reconcile irreconcilable differences. I suppose we might see the same here. However clearly these two early fathers not only agreed that the sacrament was symbolic, they denied the doctrine of transubstantiation.
 
Not this link again. :rolleyes:

The Catholic and Orthodox way is not the way of one-track interpretations. We claim that Christ is truly present in the Eucharist. That does not mean we don’t believe he isn’t also present in our liturgy, our prayers, our singing, and in ourselves. The Eucharist is one bread and one body of Christ. That doesn’t also mean that our partaking of it doesn’t make us, the Church, one communion, one bread, and one body.

He also abuses the word “figurative” as used by Clement. The Eucharist is of course a figure of Christ, of his Word, of our one body, of the Holy Spirit’s presence, etc… It is, after all, a veiled sacrament. It is not literally strips of divisible flesh of any sort. It’s not ripping Christ apart limb from limb and feasting on him. It is something higher, a pointer, but also true. There is something that is invisible to our fleshly senses, and another part that is invisible. The union of both is the Eucharist.

Whatever this author asserts, none of these quotes actually deny the real presence. That’s a limited, constrained, and forced reading of the text to meet an agenda outside of the living tradition of the Church. “Saying this excludes that!” Except, of course, when it doesn’t. As referenced, Clement, Irenaeus, Ignatius, all refer to the real presence. They also extend the Eucharistic theology to martyrdom, to us as one body, to Christ’s teachings, to receiving the Spirit, because it’s all very much tied together. Simply because they do the latter does not negate the fact that they do the former.

Keep in mind that Origen and Tertullian are not considered “full” Church Fathers for reasons. Origen was prone to running ahead into his own, personal, wild allegorical interpretations on more than just the Eucharist (though not out of disobedience to the Church), while Tertullian eventually left the Church and went into heresy. Still, I’m not convinced either of them denied the real presence. Origen was very influenced by Platonic philosophy (and I believe Clement of Alexandria was, too). In their writings, we should account for the Platonic viewpoint between symbols and the symbolized that was embraced by the Church, where the symbol itself would participate in the reality it symbolized.
 
Not this link again. :rolleyes:

The Catholic and Orthodox way is not the way of one-track interpretations. We claim that Christ is truly present in the Eucharist. That does not mean we don’t believe he isn’t also present in our liturgy, our prayers, our singing, and in ourselves. The Eucharist is one bread and one body of Christ. That doesn’t also mean that our partaking of it doesn’t make us, the Church, one communion, one bread, and one body.

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I apologize for using that link. I just grabbed the first one that had early fathers on the Eucharist. I didn’t read the guys arguments. Did he change their words?

I don’t think you read the Origen quote. Your first paragraph makes it it plain you are objecting to an assumption as though it were made by axiom when in fact it was concluded by evidence.

Origin actually states he is responding to the “weak minded” notion of the real presence. If you missed that, go back and look. I am not drawing any unnecessary dichotomy. Origen simply argues against it.

In the mean time, I had a chance to read the epistle to the smyrneans. In it he is opposing Gnosticism. He concludes the gnostics don’t receive the Eucharist because they deny Jesus Body. It’s not a statement about the real presence necessarily, although it could be, it is a statement about how irrelevant the symbol of His body broken for us is to a cult that does not recognize his body–thus they obstain.
 
I just want to say, I sometimes seem convinced rhetorically for the sake of provoking a powerful defense. I don’t want to keep anyone from paradise if the RCC is correct.
 
This will likely sound silly, but I have never really comprehended what exactly people mean when they say that the bread and wine offered during Eucharist become the literal blood and body of Jesus.

By literal, is it genuinely literal? Consuming actual flesh and blood? My understanding of it doesn’t seem complete. I tried reading about Transubstantiation but I still wasn’t fully able to glean understanding.

I read that “The signs of bread and wine become, in a way surpassing understanding, the Body and Blood of Christ.” So is it not meant to be fully understood?

Some denominations say that it does not literally become the body and blood of Jesus Christ. So why the distinction? Is it an important distinction for denominations to consider it symbolic vs. literal vs. nothing?

If this has been answered before, would you lead me to the answer? Sorry for the confusion I just don’t really understand.
The Real Presence has been a distinction that the Church, east and west, has made since the beginnings of Christianity. Jesus didn’t just come to teach and suffer and die and rise but also then to be “with you always” Matt 28:20. Sacraments are the theology of the Church in action form. We are to partake of and commune with Jesus, He must remain in us and us in Him in order for us to have life. So not merely a physical but also a spiritual event takes place with the sacraments, as, in the case of the Eucharist, we recognize our continuous need to be nourished by God. So this nourishment is not solely a matter of hearing and feeding off of the the word through the bible but goes beyond that; again; it is God’s life in us, a necessity for us in order to be justified-to be made just-and therefore for eternal life.

Similarly the other sacraments spell and act out the theology of the Church. Baptism, as far back as the Church knows, is necessary for salvation. Reconciliation/Confession is necessary if we’ve broken our Baptismal vows, straying back away from God and into serious sin. In that case we’ve already broken communion with God spiritually and should not be partaking of Him in the Eucharist-that would be hypocritical as well as futile. We need to turn back to Him in repentance, confessing our sins, and then communion makes sense again, and indeed has already been restored. The Church provides the means to do this.

With these and the other sacraments we physical beings have a simple, concrete, physical way of understanding and living out the faith that has been received and preserved and proclaimed and handed down from generation to generation via the Church.
 
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