I have a goofy question for catholics

[ALLFORHIM]

Hi,

I have a silly geographic question. When you say Come Home to Rome do you mean the Vatican or do you actually mean Rome, Italy?

When you say cross the Tiber are you talking about crossing it to get to the vatican?

After I get some answers Ill tell you why Im asking.

Thanks

 

[Uncle_David]

Hi,

I have a silly geographic question. When you say Come Home to Rome do you mean the Vatican or do you actually mean Rome, Italy?

When you say cross the Tiber are you talking about crossing it to get to the vatican?

After I get some answers Ill tell you why Im asking.

Thanks

I think it means - come home to your real faith.

 

[mosher]

Yes, it is a popular term for the Vatican or more precisely to the Church.

 

[LilyM]

Means to join the Catholic Church. Since its hq is the Vatican, located in Rome, Italy. Referred to as ‘coming home’, since Catholicism regards itself as the one original Christian faith from which all the others have split off.

And yes, Rome and the Vatican are located on the Tiber River, so if you were going there physically you’d cross the Tiber at some stage.

The expression uses the place as a symbol of the institution. Rather like people talk about the White House when they mean either the President or the institution of the Presidency, or the Pentagon as US military hq.

They may use phrases like ‘the White House said xyz’ when they mean the President or one one of his spokespersons - and it doesn’t mean they spoke AT the White House either, of course!

I wonder why you’ve asked though

 

[RCCDefender]

It’s a figure of speech. Others include: It’s raining cats and dogs; He was so mad his blood was boiling; She eats like a bird; I’m so hungry I could eat a horse; she let the cat out of the bag; he was as cool as a cucumber; and so forth.

Crossing the Tiber and Coming home to Rome means to convert to the Catholic Faith.

I’m interested in hearing your ulterior motive.

 

[Fidelis]

Crossing the Tiber and Coming home to Rome means to convert to the Catholic Faith.

I’m interested in hearing your ulterior motive.

Yes, ALLFORHIM – is there something you want to share with us?

 

[Saint_Augustin]

Hi,

I have a silly geographic question. When you say Come Home to Rome do you mean the Vatican or do you actually mean Rome, Italy?

When you say cross the Tiber are you talking about crossing it to get to the vatican?

After I get some answers Ill tell you why Im asking.

Thanks

The Church of Rome is the oldest Church in all the Christendom. To ***“Coming Home” ***means that we reconnect with the Christians from all generations.

The Vatican is on the opposite rive of the Tiber river, That means someone is crossing the last distance after a journey. Figuratively, it’s a spiritual demarche .

Mostly, these are figures of speech for people who departed from the Catholicism and came back. These sayings are for people who are reconnecting with the Apostolic tradition, the Fathers of the Church, the history of the Church, and the communion of the Saints.

 

[mercygate]

In addition to all the correct answers given above, it means coming HOME. You finally know where you belong. It is a place of peace (even with all the usual family squabbles and such).

What’s weird is that you know it’s home, even if you were never Catholic.

 

[rr1213]

You might also compare “crossing the Tiber” with “crossing the Rubicon.” Both are figures of speech involving rivers and are based on geography and/or history. Crossing the Tiber means to make a decision to convert to the Catholic faith. Crossing the Rubicon meaning making an irrevocable (or, at least, very important) decision. In ancient Rome, Roman generals and their armies were often based outside of Italy. When they crossed the Rubicon in northern Italy with their army, it normally meant that the general was marching to Rome to contest the postion of emperor.

 

[ALLFORHIM]

Hi,

Ok I have received enough responses Ill tell you my alterior motive. Let me start off by saying it is silly and a little fececious(sp?) I do not mean this to be mean spirited just funny and goofy.

Ok my friend is going to Rome in April so she bought a book on Rome. I was looking at the map and trying to figure out where Vatican City was. As I was looking I noticed that the Tiber(also called something else, which confused me) is on the east side of the Vatican. So, if I were to swim the Tiber to cross over to the Vatican(CC faith) I would be swimming away from it as it is on the other side. I think because I would be coming from America I would not cross the Tiber to get to Vatican City.:whacky:
So when you guys say cross the Tiber it would mean to swim away from the faith.

Do you see how silly my question is.

Again, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS AN INSULT just a geographical discovery. LOL

 

[carol_marie]

Well, as we said, when we say cross the Tiber we mean “come home to the TRUE faith”… so Allforhim…start swimming!

 

[batteddy]

Since its hq is the Vatican, located in Rome, Italy.

Well, the Italian Peninsula at least. “Italy” the region.

The Vatican is in Rome the city, but not Italy the State (because, obviously, the Vatican is independent).

 

[Saint_Augustin]

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Book Description:

*"An exhilarating conversion story of a devout Baptist who relates how he overcame his hostility to the Catholic Church by a combination of serious Bible study and vast research of the writings of the early Church Fathers. In addition to a moving account of their conversion that caused Ray and his wife to “cross the Tiber” to Rome, he offers an in-depth treatment of Baptism and the Eucharist in Scripture and the ancient Church.

Thoroughly documented with hundreds of footnotes, this contains perhaps the most complete compilation of biblical and patristic quotations and commentary available on Baptism and the Eucharist, as well as a detailed analysis of Sola Scriptura and Tradition"*

 

[rr1213]

Hi,

Ok I have received enough responses Ill tell you my alterior motive. Let me start off by saying it is silly and a little fececious(sp?) I do not mean this to be mean spirited just funny and goofy.

Ok my friend is going to Rome in April so she bought a book on Rome. I was looking at the map and trying to figure out where Vatican City was. As I was looking I noticed that the Tiber(also called something else, which confused me) is on the east side of the Vatican. So, if I were to swim the Tiber to cross over to the Vatican(CC faith) I would be swimming away from it as it is on the other side. I think because I would be coming from America I would not cross the Tiber to get to Vatican City.:whacky:
So when you guys say cross the Tiber it would mean to swim away from the faith.

Do you see how silly my question is.

Again, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS AN INSULT just a geographical discovery. LOL

Don’t swim. Just cross over (the many) bridges in whatever direction you wish to go!

 

[Mommyof02green]

Hi,

Ok I have received enough responses Ill tell you my alterior motive. Let me start off by saying it is silly and a little fececious(sp?) I do not mean this to be mean spirited just funny and goofy.

Ok my friend is going to Rome in April so she bought a book on Rome. I was looking at the map and trying to figure out where Vatican City was. As I was looking I noticed that the Tiber(also called something else, which confused me) is on the east side of the Vatican. So, if I were to swim the Tiber to cross over to the Vatican(CC faith) I would be swimming away from it as it is on the other side. I think because I would be coming from America I would not cross the Tiber to get to Vatican City.:whacky:
So when you guys say cross the Tiber it would mean to swim away from the faith.

Do you see how silly my question is.

Again, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS AN INSULT just a geographical discovery. LOL

All of that would be true if we meant it LITERALLY!!! Meaning that we meant that someone went to the bank of the Tiber and swam across.

The phrases “Crossing the Tiber” and “Coming Home” are examples of FIGURTIVE speech. It means, “to join the Catholic Church”. It’s Figurative speech like the saying “It’s raining Cats and Dogs outside”. We all know that the phrase, “It is raining Cats and Dogs outside”, means it’s raining pretty doggone hard outside.

Now wouldn’t be something if the phrase “It’s raining Cats and Dogs outside,” was literal. Can you just picture Cats and Dogs falling from the sky? I can and I would be scared to go out.

 

[ALLFORHIM]

All of that would be true if we meant it LITERALLY!!! Meaning that we meant that someone went to the bank of the Tiber and swam across.

The phrases “Crossing the Tiber” and “Coming Home” are examples of FIGURTIVE speech. It means, “to join the Catholic Church”. It’s Figurative speech like the saying “It’s raining Cats and Dogs outside”. We all know that the phrase, “It is raining Cats and Dogs outside”, means it’s raining pretty doggone hard outside.

Now wouldn’t be something if the phrase “It’s raining Cats and Dogs outside,” was literal. Can you just picture Cats and Dogs falling from the sky? I can and I would be scared to go out.

Hi,

I know it is figurative I just wanted to be silly.

 

[Mommyof02green]

Hi,

I know it is figurative I just wanted to be silly.

:wave:I thought you were.

Sorry you didn’t see the “humor” in my post re: the Cats and Dog falling from the sky.

I’ll work on my “humor”

Have a good one.

PS: Also, I hope you had a good weekend.
I saw several of your posting that said you went away for the weekend. I hope that it was good and that you got the “rest” or whatever less you were looking to get and do over the weekend.

 

[LilyM]

Hi,

I know it is figurative I just wanted to be silly.

Well, if that’s what you wanted you succeeded :yup:

And anyway, the expression doesn’t specify that your journey has to all be heading in the one direction from your home in America to the Vatican

 

[ALLFORHIM]

:wave:I thought you were.

Sorry you didn’t see the “humor” in my post re: the Cats and Dog falling from the sky.

I’ll work on my “humor”

Have a good one.

PS: Also, I hope you had a good weekend.
I saw several of your posting that said you went away for the weekend. I hope that it was good and that you got the “rest” or whatever less you were looking to get and do over the weekend.

Hi,

Im sorry I did see your humor. I read through it fast because I was in the middle of something. Yes my weekend was great! I went to a spa and spent time with my good friend from college. Unfortunately I came home to chaos. I guess it proves my family just cant live without me.

 

[Mommyof02green]

Hi,

Im sorry I did see your humor. I read through it fast because I was in the middle of something. Yes my weekend was great! I went to a spa and spent time with my good friend from college. Unfortunately I came home to chaos. I guess it proves my family just cant live without me.

It is unfortunate that you came home to chaos.

However, I’m glad to hear that you had a GREAT Weekend.