**Hi Scoob,
Sigh, anyway, Jesus loves all of us! He actually died for each one of us individually. If Jesus can die for you, You must be a very special person! Know that, believe that, embrace that!**Hi Scoob,
**HI King Arthur,
What a shame, You have the real faith in the real church and you ignore your Lord and Savior for your personal selfish reasons.Some critics of Christianity found out, that real Christians never offend anyone. Those who do without apology, hadly are Christians.
Doubters hardly ever correlate criticisms upon God Himself, but on ways and means believers annunciate their conviction – mistake it as provocation.
But it’ alone a matter between you and God – no-one else, because…it
Quantity and regularity of churchgoing doesn’t make a Christian. I know a lot of people who never miss a mass, but are indeed most disagreeable contemporaries. I even know several priests whom I’d never mix up with (neither would they with me though
Beware of those who carry Christianity as a billboard before them. It’s alone a matter between God and the single person. Each of them though, carries Jesus order, to pass on Gods word – out of love. It would be easier to shut up and let nonbelievers perish. Easier, but selfish and unchristian.Oh – sound’s like me
might be we are related But you and I know, that even when it’s a bad priest and a sloppy mass – it’s still a fully guilty mass, when the connection between God and us is in order.Show me one person in this world, who possesses the one and only right attitude. Might be the Pope and Saints. But we are neither of the two.
Great to see that catholc scare-mongering didn’t die out
while I’m sure alcohol improves the god experience by removing inhibitions I have never been drunk and I dont intend to be. Plus alcohol + insulin = baaad
LoL! Spoken like a true Irishman!
Do I not and I’m not judging people. Its the catholics, like yourself, who are judging I’ve found.
Church is supposed to be community based. A hollow ritual cannot provide the support a church and parish is suppoed to provide.
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Hi Irishjoe,
Great to see that catholc scare-mongering didn’t die out
**Eternal damnation, can last a long time!
while I’m sure alcohol improves the god experience by removing inhibitions I have never been drunk and I dont intend to be.
**And you call yourself Irish?**
Plus alcohol + insulin = baaad
LoL! Spoken like a true Irishman!
**“Slainte!”
When we drink, we get drunk.
When we get drunk, we fall asleep.
When we fall asleep, we commit no sin.
When we commit no sin, we go to heaven.
So, let’s all get drunk, and go to heaven!
I am German-American, even here we know of you Irish!
Do I not and I’m not judging people. Its the catholics, like yourself, who are judging I’ve found.
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I think that you are being warned of the judgment that God will make. I have never seen a Catholic judge people, just warn them of what their behavior indicates. There is a difference. For it is written, “As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” (Romans 14:9-12) **
Actually people generally know more than they think, and I have not claimed to know everything about the Catholic faith.
That kind of attitude discourages me.
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I am one of the lucky ones. I realize I am not as smart as these other people. I don’t have the book learning many have, but I do know Jesus and he has set me free! **
Church is supposed to be community based. A hollow ritual cannot provide the support a church and parish is suppoed to provide.
**Who ever said church is supposed to be community based? It is supposed to be JESUS based! You can get community at any social event. Worship of God is not and never should be an social event. It is worship. You are going to meet your lord and savior! There is no “hollow” ritual when your lord and savior commands you to come and eat His body and you are transported back to the last supprt with Him and His disciples. There is no “hollow” ritual when you also join his disciples at the cross as He dies for your sins. Your sins alone! There is no “hollow” ritual when you gnaw on His flesh, as He commanded, to obtain eternal life. There is no “hollow” ritual when you worship God correctly!
The hollow ritual is getting up every day believing that you are better than God, that Jesus’ death wasn’t really important, that His leaving His church here on earth doesn’t concern you nor your eternal salvation. That you don’t need God! That is a hollow ritual.
You want support? Go to a mental health group! You want Faith? Go worship Jesus at Mass! The Catholic community worships Jesus not each other! We pray for each other!
God Bless **
Fristly Einstein used the word God to describe that which we do not know about the universe. He states that he does not belive in god as the jews do. This is a popular misconception. Hawking is also aethiest. Not ruling something out is different to accepting it. I dont rule out the possilbity that there are pixies living in my garden, but I find it highly unlikely that there are.
My heart is not hardened, I am quite openminded, however I do not find much logic or rationale behind the church teachings that I have questioned. And have witnessed some acts of charity and some acts of spite here on this thread. Some people have emailed and messaged me although its gotten me nowhere. Despite this, I cannot be a catholic as I disagree with fundamental teachings so it is time to see if there are other ways to know god because catholicism at the moment is retarding my spiritual growth. If in future someone explains it to me I will resume it.
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Hi Irish,
Your personal lack of faith is retarting your spiritual growth. Never blame God or His church for your own shortcomings!
God Bless**
or any real Christian.not really though.
Hi Bruno
**I agree fully to both last posts of RC. Could have been from me
**Hi Bruno,
But tell me Realcatholicgk, since you hardly ever answer mails or PM’s, let me ask here for a change:
I know you went through hell in Vietnam. Being just 6 years older than you, I over here in far off Germany knew precisely what happened in Vietnam and how you suffered. The 68-movment arouse of that over here, as it was as all wars, a senseless war.
**Not for us guys fight it! We were sent to fight. I went in 1965 as an Ranger I did long range and convert operations which are still classified. I personally officially killed 54enemy possible many more. In battle some times hard to know. And later who cares how many bodies they attribute to you? **
I at the time red an interview in which a Vietnam-soldier stated: “If you lived that hell of Vietnam, you’d know there’s no God”.
I went to many “memorial” services. Chaplain would come out and say nice things about people they didn’t know. I lost 43 friends in our first fight! Of my entire company 3 of us survived they year I was almost killed. I went to Mass once the first time over in 'Nam. A real soldier, gets closer to God when it is just Him and you, no structured religion available in Jungle and we didn’t respect the “clean, well fed ministers, or priests” that came out to say nice things about the dead!
I was utterly shocked; for as a Child I lived the hell of World-War II with all that bombing round us. My parents NEVER lost faith and prayed at every impact whilst our house quivered. I, as the youngest in that house, prayed before the statue of Holy Mary in that air-shelter, and all of those being there, joined the prayers, if atheists or doubters. (which they denied later)
However – a lot of houses around ours we where praying, had been blasted off and I saw a lot of people torn to pieces or dieing then, (all that made me stutter for 2 years ten - ended by prayers again). Many lost believe. We of course – as the great majority, of course not.
Back to my question:
You saw hell there, and been severely wounded and viewed all the disgust of the world.
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I was trained to Kill, I was a killing machine. I was trained to “hate” my enemy. I did my job! To me it was a job! When I got shot I realized I wasn’t a superman! One of the bullets hit me in the chest, tore muscle off mu heart, It weakened my heart and I required several surgeries before they knew I would survive. I was operated on about 15 minutes after being shot. That saved my life longer I would have died and almost did anyway! **
Why did you never loose faith in God?
God had always been a part of my life. I prayed, as a part of who I was. If a friend gets wounded or killed all you can do to really help is pray for them. The hardest time was I the hospital 14 months of seeing others much worse than I. We had to make some decisions that we should not of had to nor did we have the right to make. But when someone begs you to help them a human being does things that hurts his soul and needs to be confessed! God knows the love that was needed for us to help our brothers.
That would be interesting to some people who for very nonentity reasons proclaim: “I have no religion left”.
I have been i pai constantly for 42 years and have a deformed hand and physical problems unseen but felt. It is a part of who I am and who I have became. I would not change anything that has happened to me because I would not be the person I am now. I do know that I would not do some of the things I did at 21 through 23 now but we all grow in wisdom and knowledge, even Jesus!
Such statements seem terribly childish and immature, as faith in God and believe in Jesus’ word is so very reasonable and profound and nothing but love. Where is love in atheism?!
**I firmly believe that it takes more faith to be an Atheist than a Christian!
Bruno, the things I shared here in this post ~ “we” never talk about to others. Us “vets” just live with our demons. The physical and physiological pain is our burden, that can’t be shared. I go out with other Nam vets and church groups and feed and get the “bad” ones into shelters! We know the pain that we all carry. The regrets, the shame, the joy, the anger. I am about 10 minutes from one of the largest Army hospitals in USA treating wounded soldeirs. We go and help them know they aren’t alone! No one did that for us Nam vets, for some reason. I am the sum of all that has every happened to me! There is no one on earth exactly like me! Not one single person has had my experiences! My Lord and Savior will be a part of who I am forever! God is good!
God Bless
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**Hi John,
** I agree fully to both last posts of RC. Could have been from me or any real Christian.**
**Hi Bruno,
**
But tell me Realcatholicgk, since you hardly ever answer mails or PM’s, let me ask here for a change:
I know you went through hell in Vietnam. Being just 6 years older than you, I over here in far off Germany knew precisely what happened in Vietnam and how you suffered. The 68-movment arouse of that over here,** as it was as all wars, a senseless war.
**Not for us guys fighting it! We were sent to fight. I went in 1965, as an Ranger, I did long range patrols, jungle and convert operations many of which are still classified. I officially killed 54 enemy, possibly many more. In battle some times it is hard to know. And later who cares how many bodies they attribute to you? **
I at the time red an interview in which a Vietnam-soldier stated: “If you lived that hell of Vietnam, you’d know there’s no God”.
**I went to many “memorial” services. Chaplains would come out and say nice things about people they didn’t know anything about. In our first fight I lost 43 friends that I trained with for a couple of years! They were closer to me than my biological family. Of my entire company of over 150 men only 3 of us survived the year. And I was almost killed.
I went to Mass once the first time over in 'Nam. It just wasn’t available. Sometimes we were out for 30 to 40 days at a time without showers, basic hygine. In the 11 months, I lost over 50 lbs and had blood and intestinal parasites. They were as damaging as the bullets that tore through my body! I came very close to death!
A real soldier, gets closer to God when it is just Him and you. There is no structured religion available in the Jungle and we didn’t have much use or respect for the clean, well fed ministers, or priests “REMFs” that came out to say nice things about the dead! We were in Hell alone!**
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I was utterly shocked; for as a Child I lived the hell of World-War II with all that bombing round us. My parents NEVER lost faith and prayed at every impact whilst our house quivered. I, as the youngest in that house, prayed before the statue of Holy Mary in that air-shelter, and all of those being there, joined the prayers, if atheists or doubters. (which they denied later) …
Back to my question:
You saw hell there, and been severely wounded and viewed all the disgust of the world.**
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I was trained to Kill, I was a killing machine. I was trained to “hate” my enemy. I did my job! To me it was a job! I never shot a child nor a woman and would have killed some one that did, Soldiers don’t kill innocent people! I never tortured my enemy. I Killed Him!
It was only when I got shot that I finally realized that I wasn’t a superman! One of the bullets hit me in the chest, tore muscle off my heart, It shattered my rib cage, collapsed a lung and weakened the upper left chamber of my heart and I required several surgeries before they knew if I would survive. I was operated on about 30 minutes after being shot. That saved my life! They said that much longer and I would have died and I almost did anyway! **
Why did you never loose faith in God?
**God had always been a part of my life. I knew He didn’t cause pain. He helped me be able to deal with it! I prayed, as a part of who I was. If a friend gets wounded or killed all you can do to really help is pray for them. The hardest time was actually in the hospital for the 14 months. Seeing others physically much worse than I.
We made some decisions that maybe we should not have nor did not have the right to make. But when someone begs you to help them, a compassionate human being does things that hurts his soul and eventually needs to be confessed! God knows the love that was needed for us to help our brothers.**
That would be interesting to some people who for very nonentity reasons proclaim: “I have no religion left”.
I have been i pain constantly for 42 years and have a deformed hand and physical problems unseen but felt. It is a part of who I am and who I have became. I would not change anything that has happened to me because I would not be the person I am now. I do know that I would not do some of the things I did at 21 through 23 now but we all grow in wisdom and knowledge, even Jesus!
Such statements seem terribly childish and immature, as faith in God and believe in Jesus’ word is so very reasonable and profound and nothing but love. Where is love in atheism?!
**I firmly believe that it takes more faith to be an Atheist than a Christian!
Bruno, the things I shared here in this post ~ “we” never talk about to others. Us “vets” just live with our demons. The physical and physiological pain is our burden, that can’t be shared. I go out with other Nam vets and church groups and feed and get the “bad” ones into shelters! As combat surviuvers and brothers, we understand the pain that we all carry. The regrets, the shame, the joy, the anger. We are a brotherhood of soldiers who care for ourselves since no one else ever has! I am about 10 minutes from one of the largest Army hospitals in the USA treating wounded soldiers. Us 'Nam vets go and help them know they aren’t alone, we are there for the kids! For some strange reason, no one did that for us Nam vets. We didn’t need nor expect anything and that is what we got for many years!
I am the sum of all that has every happened to me! There is no one on earth exactly like me! Not one single person has had my experiences! My Lord and Savior will be a part of who I am forever! God is good!
God Bless
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Hi there too, I like the quote on abstract fetal tissue. I haven’t heard that one before, and I did listen to this priest a fair bit yrs ago. Very good. God bless you.Hi John,
With Faith and prayer there is hope for all God’s children.
**You will conquer them only when you die John. You can resist them all the time but never conquer them! **
**Hi John,
I am on my way to eat Jesus!
I love Fr Corapi. He is my kind of priest! Some more of His Holy Spirit Inspired Sayings:
“The devil donned a judicial robe.” (In relation to the US Supreme Court decision in Roe vs Wade which decriminalized abortion.)
“A preacher who is afraid to confront evil is useless.”
“A pro-abortion politician is automatically disqualified.”
“You need to know your faith. You cannot give what you do not have.” (On the need for Catholics to study and learn Sacred Scripture and the Catechism of the Catholic Church)
“In the end, forever, you and I will be in Heaven or Hell. Period.”
“I’m not going to hell for anybody!”
“Let me tell you how NOT to have vocations: 1) disobey the Church. 2) Do not accept the teaching of the Magisterium of the Church. 3) Bad mouth the Pope and send them to lousy seminaries. You will have NO vocations! Kiss 'em goodbye! It is absolutely fatal to play fast and loose with faith and morals. Things are getting better but we’ve gone through a very dry period in the Church. I can give you example after example of religious congregations and dioceses that are doing just great with vocations. Why? Because they’re faithful. Period. Because they’re faithful. They don’t play games with the Doctrine of the Faith. They don’t try to promote in seminarians a kind of attitude of liberal dissent. That is the kiss of death and I can prove it time and time and time again that wherever that is done, there are no vocations. And there won’t be. There won’t be. Where things are done properly, there are vocations. It’s not hard. It’s not rocket science.”
“Sometimes people will say ‘Well I’ve outgrown my faith.’ I’ve met eight zillion people who have said ‘Yeah I used to be Catholic…’ Well what are you now? And they may be Buddhist, or who knows what? And they sometimes say ‘Well I outgrew my Catholic faith, I became more sophisticated, I became more educated.’ There’s something I have found. Now I have some education. I have earned five university degrees, most of them with highest honors. I’m not bragging, I’m just saying that to let you know that I respect education. I have a high regard for education. But in my many years around the education establishment, I was given a great revelation by God, and the revelation is: a lot of people done been educated into imbecility.”
“You know why the world is a stinking mess? I have failed to be as holy as I am called to be. Bottom line. I don’t have any control over anybody else. I’ve gotta deal with ME. One person at a time we must be perfected as our Heavenly Father is perfect.”
“The Holy Spirit is a divine artist; we’re like a lump of clay. We’ve heard that analogy that we’re clay. We carry this treasure within us in earthen vessels. We know an artist, a sculptor can work in clay. Clay is soft. Clay is malleable. Clay can be easily formed. The Holy Spirit is a divine artist. Are you clay? Or are you marble? Artists can work with marble too. Marble’s very cold and hard though. How does an artist work with marble? He chips away at it. You’ve been wondering why God’s been chipping away at you? It’s painful to lose pieces of yourself isn’t it? Gotta do it. There are things in us that have to go. You can’t be egocentric, you’ve got to be Christocentric. You can’t be self-centered and hope to be sanctified. You’ve got to be centered on Christ. It’s a work of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit forms Jesus within us. No cross? No crown. No pain? No gain. No way around it–if there was a shortcut, I’d know it and I’d tell ya.”
“More than once I’ve had discussions with persons who say, things, based on a misunderstanding. …] ‘Oh you Catholics worship images.’ No we don’t, ‘yes you do,’ no we don’t, ‘yes you do,’ no we don’t! The final retort to that is… I have a doctorate, in Catholic theology that I have earned the hard way; by sitting in university classrooms for twelve years. I know what we believe! You get a doctorate in Catholic theology? What do you know about it? Nothing! You don’t know anything about it. You’re saying things that are born of misunderstanding or ignorance.” -Weekly Wisdom 03-08-08
“There are people who say, ‘oh every time Catholics make the sign of the cross they re-crucify Christ.’ Look, that’s what comes under the theological classification of happy horse manure! Got it, that’s what that is. That’s bologna, absolute bologna! They don’t know anything about our religion, and I don’t purport to know anything about theirs. I respect theirs, respect ours. When we make the sign of the cross we are simply making a statement of faith. I believe in the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, and I believe in the sign of the cross, because that is the sign of our salvation!” -Weekly Wisdom 03-08-08
Show me in the Bible where it says, ‘Only The Bible’
I have never heard a confession that was worse than the first one I made when I returned to the Church.
My grandmother, who had only an eighth grade education, knew more than many theologians because she knew the truth.
How can abstract fetal tissue leap in his mothers womb? (LK 1:41)
When you crash against the rock, you will not damage the rock but you will hurt yourself. (MT 16:18, the Church)
Ignorance of the Catechism is ignorance of Christ, just like the Bible.
Theologians who teach that angels, the devil, and hell, don’t exist have lost their faith.
The sin of the century is the loss of the sense of sin.
Look to the teachings of the Pope and the Magisterium for the truth.
Believe everything the Holy Church has presented for our belief. That is faith.
“If you have holes in your shield, the devil is a very good shot, andhe will shoot an arrow right through the holes and hit you.”
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