I have noticed something, Lets all Just Get along!

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Do we want this to be a politically correct Catholic discussion forum?

OK - we all agree to disagree and let all the threads be closed.

I have learned quite a lot on these forums and would not been able to if all we did was agree to everything posted. In a few instances things have got heated, but all in all most posts treat the other posters with dignity.
 
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RomanRyan1088:
ok people, you have convinced me to get over this gusshy, lovey, kinda thing. I guess we have to preach the TRUTH of the catholic church 1st.
Don’t equate feel-good-ism and warm fuzzies with love.

To preach the truth, one must have love.

1 Cor 13:1-4
1 If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not love, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not love, I am nothing. 3 And if I should distribute all my goods to feed the poor, and if I should deliver my body to be burned, and have not love, it profiteth me nothing. 4 Love is patient, is kind: Love envieth not, dealeth not perversely, is not puffed up,
John 15:12-14
12 This is my commandment, that you love one another, as I have loved you. 13 Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends. 14 You are my friends, if you do the things that I command you.
Justin
 
Remember about fraternal correction, through love and compassion. As a Catholic we have an obligation to confront our brother if he has fallen.
 
1962Missal wrote:“Don’t equate feel-good-ism and warm fuzzies with love.”

Good point. It reminds me of a comment I heard on Catholic Radio last week, made by Greg Popchak (sp?): “Nice-ness is Satan’s plagiarism of Love”—I thought that was well-put. “Nice-ness” avoids controversy and “bad” feelings (don’t tell someone that they’re jeopardizing their soul by engaging in immorality, because that might hurt their precious feelings!!), while authentic Love is concerned for the ultimate well-being of that person, which sometimes entails telling them the truth whether it makes them feel good or not.
 
Roman Ryan appears to have the innocence of youth! It’s a beautiful thing, and can move mountains! Jesus loved John, the youngest. Pope John Paul II has made a great effort to address the youth. You are right, I agree with you about working together to help the world and further Christianity, unfortunately, it is difficult to work with people who insist that the Cathoilc Church is evil, pagan, that we worship the Pope and the Virgin Mary, they don’t agree with Apostolic Tradition, and although we have history and Scripture to show the validity of Catholic doctrine, and our “creed,” many Protestants refuse to accept it and decide to ignore the Scripture quotes and historical evidence we give. I enjoy debate, and it sometimes gets heated because we are dealing with the revealed Truth of God and his relationship with humanity. Although there are some heated debates in this forum, and some people choose to be less positive and “Yell out” their emotional arguments without any evidence, it is a positive thing because we are all practicing evangelization, something we are all called to, in one form or another. Maybe the unkind ppl will discover better methods while using this site to take into the “real world” For the record, most of my friends are Protestant,(including my very best friend) and I am respectful of her beliefs and love her, we pray together, have done Bible Study together, and she continues to believe in Faith alone,Bible alone, etc. while I patiently and respectfully explain Catholic Belifs when she asks. We have found a place where Christ is the ruler in our friendship, the common ground. Although, I think she would really like it if I joined her nondenom church, just to make things easier:) I don’t shy away from standing for the Truth when called upon. For instance, she has been suffering from serious health problems and some ladies in her Bible Study interpreted that if a person has enough faith they will be healed. This was troubling to her. I was able to point out Scripture of the spiritual benefits of suffering… and that the most faithful people in the Bible suffered greatly. I have also helped her understand Mary being a role model. Our friendship has been positive on many levels.

I think some Catholics act haughty in response to the hostile criticisms and verbal and written attacks anti-catholics spout out. Not necessarily out of pride, but knowing what Christ suffered and died for is being spit upon can be hard to take. If the Saints can die for the Truth, we can counteract the filth on the internet with Catholic apologetics. The only way for the Christianity to be one body in Christ is for it to be the Church Christ founded on the Apostles, the leader being Simon Peter… That shouldn’t stop people from working together, but sometimes it does. If Chistians were truly unified under the one Universal Church, we would be a stronger force, no dout, and there wouldnt’ be so many Christians lost, running willy nilly misinterpreting Scripture to suit their needs.
 
I don’t hate anyone - no one at all.

But Christ did say - regarding evil - to hate the sin and not the sinner.

I don’t think it is hateful to give fraternal correction or to correct error.
 
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RomanRyan1088:
Hello all, I would Just like to share something. I would like to say there is so much HATE in this forum, and yes I said HATE. We have Catholics, fighting with Protestants, Protestants fighting with Catholics. Lets just get something straight, We all believe that Jesus Christ is our Lord, and I think instead of fighting, we should be trying to help those who don’t know the truth, the Buddist, The Muslims, the Atheists, We should preach the Truth!!! We should ask the Good Lord above to help those people OUT! We should get together, and try to end world hunger, try to help those people out that REALLY need it, not trying to get converts into our church. I used to think like this, that Catholisism was the only way home, and I still Believe That the Catholic Church, is the True Church, but I accept other people of their differences. I think we should try to come together, and Really become the body of Christ. I just thought I should share that, lets get Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans, and all who believe in the word of Jesus, and spread the Truth! God Bless to ALL!!
No no I beg to differ, when people pray that the other people and their families die of aids, cancer or so on that is hate. When they actively stalk and attack a fellow member with intent on doing harm that is hate, when they wish deep in their heart waiting for the day they get to watch those who aposed them get tortured in hell forever and ever in their sight. That is hate, when they say the Jews deserved the Holocaust because they are Christ Killers and God reprobated them all to die their in those camps that is hate.

This is extremely mild. Go take peek at some of the chat programs, usenet, etc if you want to see hate.
 
Many good points have been made in this thread. As always, I get a continuing education by my brothers and sisters in Christ. Peter Kreeft makes an interesting point in his discussion of spiritual warfare and ecumenism. He suggests that we focus on the enemy. Protestants, Muslims, and Jews, are not our enemies. They are as Kreeft says, our allies. Kreeft even goes so far as to point out that even the most egregious sinners are not our enemies. They are as Kreeft says, our patients and we are their nurses. The egregious sinner may have been poisoned and may be trying to poison others, but he/she is still not the enemy. Satan is our enemy.

If Catholics and non-Catholic would keep this in mind, then we might tone down some of the bitterness in our rhetoric toward one another. Admittedly, there are people that propagate message boards that are poisoned against the Catholic Church and have no intention of seeing any truth in Catholic teaching no matter how untenable their own position may be. We have to somehow overcome these difficulties. Obviously, we cannot soft soap the truth in the interest of just getting along. Instead, we need to make the truth more attractive. This can in some ways be accomplished by how we present ourselves and our positions. So far, in my experience on this board, I would give pretty good marks to the Catholics on this forum in how they respond to others. We all slip once in awhile, but that is to be expected. It was mentioned in an earlier post that people frequently apologize when they have offended someone, and I have noticed that as well.

Although we have had a couple of non-Catholics that may fall into the offender category, most have been very decent and their participation seems to be appreciated. Our non-Catholic brothers and sisters have many worthwhile things to say.
 
There are many Protestants here that contribute in a charitable way. God bless 'em.

Some of these Protestant whippersnappers, and we can easily tell who they are, need to learn a little basic human respect. Their attitude of “straightening us out” is just plain disrespectful. It’s almost as if they don’t realize that the "sola scriptura/fide debate has been going on for hundreds of years. And I am perfectly happy to cheer on you guys while you give them the “spanking” they deserve.

You are right, though. I love the way nobody rattles Jimmy Akin.
 
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RNRobert:
I couldn’t resist, I had to take a look… I’m sorry I did…:bigyikes: :bigyikes: :bigyikes:
I’ve visited that forum myself. Some people banned in another Catholic forum where I 'm also a member usually go there. Full of Catholic-bashing and esoteric, complicated stuff such as a paper on “Pre-Adamic” races.

Gerry
 
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