I just can't believe in god

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I don’t have the fight left in me and it’s obvious that I need to reach out to the Lord for help. But what do you do if you held on because you knew it was the only way to get through life, and then you slowly slip away. I stopped going to church in July. Made a new habit of staying away. There’s things inside me I know I have to do, but I just don’t want to do them anymore. I’m tired of trying to figure this out.
Maybe You should relax & not fight put everything into the hands of the Lord. Sensitive people hurt the most & I think You are a sensitive person, which is a good thing, but sometimes being over sensitive can cause us problems.
Sometimes we do think, where is this God but he allows us sometimes to wander aimlessly for some reason only known to him. Even Mother Teresa had doubts at times But she went on
 
I have tried so hard over the past ten years to believe in god; specifically the christian god but I just can’t. To believe in something, I need to be able to verify it with at least one of the five senses that god supposedly blessed us with and/or indisputable archeological/historical evidence.

I can’t just believe in something because everybody around me does; I am just not wired that way. I would love to believe and have faith in god but no evidence points in that direction.

I have looked at previous answers here on the boards so please don’t use the “how do you know that you exist?” argument. I guess if blind faith is what it takes to be saved and the christian god exists, I’ll just be outta luck. There, however, is no proof that I have ever seen for the existance of god, satan, heaven, hell, or anything else of that nature.

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence and that is completely lacking in my opinion. I hope not too many people jump all over at once for this post. Take care.

-Curtis
Is there really such a thing as Good and Evil? What is good? Do you feel compelled to do good, to do the right thing? What compels you to do so and how is doing that in any way important or meaningful?

This is the line of thought that smacked me like a hammer right back in to the Catholic Church after being an indifferent atheist.

Does good exist? YES! Do my choices between good and turning from it matter (does it really matter what I do?)? YES! They not only effect me but they have a ripple effect and effect others as well. What is the source of good that calls me to be good? It must be GOD, there is no other satisfactory answer. We say “I am who I am”. God says “I AM WHO AM”. In other words there is nothing else. No human idea can contain the reality of what GOD is, so whatever idea of Him one has trouble believing, it is a problem with the idea and therefore a false dilemma causing doubt. Try and think bigger. How can anything be truly good if there is no God? It just doesn’t make sense. My desires and anxieties cause me turn to sin, but surrendering to Him and trusting in Him and turning from sin is where my ultimate happiness lies (and every single person ever whether they realize it or not for that matter).
 
Hey curtis,

I just wanted to say thank you for your question and that I know where you’re coming from. Belief in God is a matter of faith, and if anyone tells you it’s not a struggle they are fibbing. Even as a believer I still struggle with it. When I encounter questions such as yours, my first thought was to direct you to the writings of the 1st century Christians and beyond. I’d also invite you to look into the history of the bible’s formation, and check out the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

There’s nothing wrong at all with wanting to know. God is a God of reason, and wants us to ask questions. It’s how we get to know Him better. One Sunday I was listening to my priest’s homily and he talked about faith and reason. The two are not opposed but go together, and both come from God. He explained that we are born with an intellect. We have a natural desire to question things and explore; we want learn about ourselves and our world. We use our intellect and reasoning skills to accomplish this. It’s where science comes from and theology. He went on to explain too, that there does come a point where our rational minds reach their limit. We are only finite humans and simply do not have the ability to fully comprehend the infinite. There are just some mysteries that will always be mysteries to us until we move on to the next life. This is where our faith comes in. It helps us to accept truths that we may not immediately be able to understand.

I’ve also wondered, too, why doesn’t God just give us THE proof of His existence. It seemed it would put to rest a lot of arguements. I heard an answer from my father that I didn’t expect but made more sense than anything else I’d heard.

He said that if you notice in the bible, it says in many different places that Jesus showed the Apostles things that were not spelled out in scripture. He showed them signs, miracles, and so forth. The Gospel of John says that not everything Jesus did was written down. I can only try to imagine the things they saw. What my father pointed out was that Jesus based His Church on faith. He said that if you think about it, it is THE perfect way. If Jesus would have given the Apostles some rule or doctrine or equation or sign, anything, as the irrefutable proof of God and heaven and the whole sha-bang, then if someone wanted to disprove God, all they’d have to do is disprove whatever key doctrine or sign Jesus gave us and the whole thing would be over. Christianity has been around for 2,000 years. Given that scenario, the Faith would have probably been destroyed a long time ago. This is why God chose faith.

Faith can’t be destroyed or disproven. Faith lies within the heart. And it is through the heart that we understand and know love, which is what God is and why we were created. The only way to kill faith is to kill the person.

His comments answered a lot of things for me, and hopefully they will help you as well. The last thing I’ll leave you with, if you’re wanting something tangible, is to check out the heart and soul of the Church. Take some time and study the Blessed Sacrament, the Eucharist. It’s why I converted three years ago.

God bless.
 
I have tried so hard over the past ten years to believe in god; specifically the christian god but I just can’t. To believe in something, I need to be able to verify it with at least one of the five senses that god supposedly blessed us with and/or indisputable archeological/historical evidence.

I can’t just believe in something because everybody around me does; I am just not wired that way. I would love to believe and have faith in god but no evidence points in that direction.

I have looked at previous answers here on the boards so please don’t use the “how do you know that you exist?” argument. I guess if blind faith is what it takes to be saved and the christian god exists, I’ll just be outta luck. There, however, is no proof that I have ever seen for the existance of god, satan, heaven, hell, or anything else of that nature.

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence and that is completely lacking in my opinion. I hope not too many people jump all over at once for this post. Take care.

-Curtis
curtis,
You lack faith. The Bible teaches “Having believed you were identified as His own by the Holy Spirit he gave you.” Eph.1:13
If God had to prove himself to us, he would be an idol.
As christians we walk by faith. Pray, from your heart, see what happens.👍

God bless you,
jean8
 
Atheists are not mean-spirited or arrogant any more than any others are. Stop calling names, it should be beneath you.

The words you have spoken are words of intolerance. Maybe you should consider how your faith can protect you from this fallacy.
SFT, now please read what I said back up in my post. The atheists I was communicating with were VERY arrogant, rude and disrespectful. Curse word after curse word, blasphemy after blasphemy, etc. I never said ALL atheists were like that. In fact I have three GOOD friends who are atheists and I respect them.

But throughout my entire life, with my encounters, **most **atheists carry a higher dose of selfish pride, while most (DEFINITELY not all) Christians were kind and respectful, especially to one another’s feelings rather than insult one into the ground.

For other cases things can be vice-versa, but I was talking about MY experiences. Understand?

By the way, I am a former atheist.
 
Curtis,

You are right on track. To just believe what you are told is sheer foolishness. Beliefs are just mental constructs, symbols, “idols” if you will. To worship these mental constructs or “idols” is, of course, idolatry. It doesn’t matter what the credentials of the person or organization is that provides you with these constructs or “idols”.

But also be careful of what you are willing to accept as direct “proof”. You may come up with a scenario that you believe would prove God, but that scenario is still just your own mental construct. Perhaps some being could come along and match your scenario exactly. That would prove nothing more than that being had whatever capability was required to match your “test”. Kind of a catch-22, isn’t it?

Don’t stop. Break through the idols. Some may lead you closer on your quest, some may lead you further astray. But in the end, they’re all just idols and you must break through them.

And don’t buy into the “you’ll find out everything after death” scam. You may just find out your soul has been sold as a disposable battery for some advanced alien computer toy.

If you’re lucky, they’ll provide you with a virtual reality experience that mimics your preconceived notions of Heaven.

Or not.
 
Maybe You should relax & not fight put everything into the hands of the Lord. Sensitive people hurt the most & I think You are a sensitive person, which is a good thing, but sometimes being over sensitive can cause us problems.
Sometimes we do think, where is this God but he allows us sometimes to wander aimlessly for some reason only known to him. Even Mother Teresa had doubts at times But she went on
Methodi, you’re very perceptive; I have become very sensitive lately. I’m not doing what I need to do to take care of myself. Situations in my life seem to be spinning out of control. I’ve had 55 years of spinning out of control, recovery, relapse and having my world become so small. I used to be a great Soldier in the military and I felt like I belonged to something bigger than myself. And then my supervisor forced me out. I feel like I’m in limbo.
Good point about Mother Teresa- her higher calling moved her in ways I am unable to fathom.
I just feel so emotionally beat up. And as situation after situation beat down my self esteem these last few years, I began to question if God really was there. At one time I loved the church, I loved Jesus and I praised God, but it feels like my life has become a circle; it started out bad, got a little better, got real better, and is getting worse emotionally every day. I made a choice again not to go to church today. Just stayed in bed most of the day.
You can tell I don’t have a close family relationship or close friends - I’m sharing my life story with strangers.
 
hi, i just came on. how are you today? i can sure understand exactly what you are feeling. i am 56 and it seems, once you pass 48, it all just turns crazy doesn’t it!!

it is like life totally changes and you ask yourself what happened!
 
hi, i just came on. how are you today? i can sure understand exactly what you are feeling. i am 56 and it seems, once you pass 48, it all just turns crazy doesn’t it!!

it is like life totally changes and you ask yourself what happened!
Good to ‘see’ you.
 
hi, i just came on. how are you today? i can sure understand exactly what you are feeling. i am 56 and it seems, once you pass 48, it all just turns crazy doesn’t it!!

it is like life totally changes and you ask yourself what happened!
Here’'s what I wrote just a few minutes ago.
Methodi, you’re very perceptive; I have become very sensitive lately. I’m not doing what I need to do to take care of myself. Situations in my life seem to be spinning out of control. I’ve had 55 years of spinning out of control, recovery, relapse and having my world become so small. I used to be a great Soldier in the military and I felt like I belonged to something bigger than myself. And then my supervisor forced me out. I feel like I’m in limbo.
Good point about Mother Teresa- her higher calling moved her in ways I am unable to fathom.
I just feel so emotionally beat up. And as situation after situation beat down my self esteem these last few years, I began to question if God really was there. At one time I loved the church, I loved Jesus and I praised God, but it feels like my life has become a circle; it started out bad, got a little better, got real better, and is getting worse emotionally every day. I made a choice again not to go to church today. Just stayed in bed most of the day.
You can tell I don’t have a close family relationship or close friends - I’m sharing my life story with strangers.
 
i just sent you a private message, so i hope you can retrieve it just army.
 
Good to ‘see’ you.
just army, if you are wanting someone to boost your faith, someone else might be of more help to you than me, because i am a new catholic, a new convert, and my faith isn’t very strong right now.

anyhow, if you want to talk again, just PM me. i will try to help if i can.

sorry for the misunderstanding!!
 
If you can’t believe in god yet perhaps you should consider some of the other arguments belief in God espouses. Such as life after death. Near death experiences are not simply halucinations, as some scientists dismiss them. Ghost hunters is credible evidence that people continue to exist after death. The investigation is scientific and professional and shows conclusively that there are spiritual entities. There are techniques for healing from a distance that defy scienctific explanation. Are you familliar with the zero point energy feild? We exist in a sea of limitless energy. Right there in front of you as you sit there in front of your monitor reading this post is more energy than in a very large hydrogen bomb. This energy is constantly coming into existance and canceling itself out. This zero point feild extends into infinity, so there is no limit to the amount of energy in the universe. Beyond that, there is even more energy in the vacuum itself, also extending into infinity. There is an overwhelming amount of inteligent engineering in the universe, to say because I can’t see God, he does not exist is potentially risky. Since death is unavoidable. the question of what happens next crosses everyones mind. From what we know of the universe, a credible argument for the existance of a creator can be made.

Denial of God may be unwise, suppose God really is looking for those who will believe and stay faithful to him. Science will never be able to disprove God. Science may extend life but they can’t deliver you from death. If you put your faith in the ability of science figure everything out, you may miss out on the very part of life you were created to experience, and for what? Suppose the zero point and vacuum feilds are aspects of God’s existance? This would fulfill the claims of om(name removed by moderator)resence, omnipotentce and omnisicence. One Jewish scientist suggests that the universe itself exists within God and that God is even bigger than that, much bigger.
 
Well, this thread is proof that anyone can fall in and out of love with God very quickly.
 
Methodi, you’re very perceptive; I have become very sensitive lately. I’m not doing what I need to do to take care of myself. Situations in my life seem to be spinning out of control. I’ve had 55 years of spinning out of control, recovery, relapse and having my world become so small. I used to be a great Soldier in the military and I felt like I belonged to something bigger than myself. And then my supervisor forced me out. I feel like I’m in limbo.
Good point about Mother Teresa- her higher calling moved her in ways I am unable to fathom.
I just feel so emotionally beat up. And as situation after situation beat down my self esteem these last few years, I began to question if God really was there. At one time I loved the church, I loved Jesus and I praised God, but it feels like my life has become a circle; it started out bad, got a little better, got real better, and is getting worse emotionally every day. I made a choice again not to go to church today. Just stayed in bed most of the day.
You can tell I don’t have a close family relationship or close friends - I’m sharing my life story with strangers.
You & I are Kindred spirits man, I am so lonely & feel so broken too,Yrs ago I did have friends, but yrs passed & I lost touch some because I wanted to, My self esteem was so Low & still pretty much is I didnt want to be around people, I do manage to get to church weekly sometimes twice a week, its my little bit of heaven here on earth. Life is tough at times & we just have to figure out how to deal with it, which can be very hard for us.sometime we have to seek help, which I have struggled against for yrs. I never wanted to give in & have someone tell me how I should live my life.
You wanna know something guy, there are so many people like us who are hurting & their heart is ripped apart too, but to look at them U would never know it.So we are not alone.Yes Life can be very tough even for tough guys, I do Hope U find a Happy Medium!
Your to young to quit man to young, I am sure U have a lot to offer others, gotta find out where U fit! I understand perfectly.
 
For the people posting that are feeling hurt etc, I can suggest, from experience, that sometimes you just need to let things go. You need to get back to the basics of the faith. Find a good old catholic book and learn more of what is the core teachings of the church. I am starting to learn things now about the faith that I never knew before.

As for the original poster regarding believing in God, faith really comes from within the person. If its proof you are after, and there is plenty, I don’t think it will be enough to cement it for you. You need to remove the doubt first before you can make room for the faith. You can do this by studying, praying and reflecting.

One book I can recommend to encourage your faith is “Padre Pio: The True Story”. My mother was fortunate enough to have gone to 2 of his masses and what she witnessed, she always speaks of with amazment.

Hope this has been of help.
 
nuntym:

I know you don’t need to hear it, but my ability to live a moral life was brought into question by someone else.

I therefore had to set the record straight.
I guess my post was a bit too harsh, and I misdirected my ire. I’m really sorry SFTor.
Thanks for your post by the way. Very thoughtful.

Best,

Tor
You’re welcome. That’s what you get when you read Chesterton too much 😛

God bless you,

nuntym
 
To JustArmy, and all the others who have much pain in their hearts:

Goodness all of the words I want to say to try help you and all of us sounds so hollow, so empty, or even so hypocritical. Although I have experienced depression, I never had to seek professional help…well maybe I am either too stingy or too afraid to. Compared to your problems, it seems mine are not that hard. But I still want to help any way I can, so I will pray for all of us, and I point you to a Catholic psychological website that has given me much help in dealing with my pains and my sadness. The gist of the website’s message is to accept the pains of life, to never run away from it through psychological defenses, and offer them in your heart to God as a sacrifice of love, giving the Holy Spirit all the right and prerogative to alleviate your pain and not through your own efforts like alcohol, self-pity, self-hurting, drugs, food, sex, or the like.

I hope I didn’t scare you away; just look into it, for it has taught me so much, and has given me much peace. Here is the website: Chastity in San Francisco
 
For the people posting that are feeling hurt etc, I can suggest, from experience, that sometimes you just need to let things go. You need to get back to the basics of the faith. Find a good old catholic book and learn more of what is the core teachings of the church. I am starting to learn things now about the faith that I never knew before.

As for the original poster regarding believing in God, faith really comes from within the person. If its proof you are after, and there is plenty, I don’t think it will be enough to cement it for you. You need to remove the doubt first before you can make room for the faith. You can do this by studying, praying and reflecting.

One book I can recommend to encourage your faith is “Padre Pio: The True Story”. My mother was fortunate enough to have gone to 2 of his masses and what she witnessed, she always speaks of with amazment.

Hope this has been of help.
Thank You, U have made good points. Simple faith & trust in God is what we need, to delve to deep sometimes causes confusion for some of us.
I read the story about Padre Pio.I think I read two books on him.I ask his intercession at times. Your Mother was fortunate to be able to attend two of his masses. Thank You again
 
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