I made a big mistake the other night

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So tonight I went home on my dinner break and my son was having severe allergy attack. Eyes swollen shut. He has this happen once a year or so. Husband tells me to stop on way home to get Benadryl. I did. Son was okay. But scared. Before I left to go back to work he called me upstairs and asked me to sit with him. He said he was scared that I was leaving. I said you are going to be fine. You are already looking better! He said “you care for me more than Dad”.

Maybe that’s typical? Kids wanting their moms? Or is that abnormal?
Most kids what their mother when they are sick. I would just ignore his statement or you will get a turf war going between you and the father which is bad for kids. Kids use turf wars to their benefit. Parents need to be a team when it comes to handling the kids.

It seems you work a lot. If your husband is the parent at home all the time since you make more money that can be a reason he had such a bad attitude. It would be good if you two can talk it out with the counselor.
 
If you read all of the OP’s posts, you will see there is definitely a pattern of abuse. She is most definitely not overreacting.
OK that may be true. I just read the first post and was responding to people’s responses just from her first post
 
So tonight I went home on my dinner break and my son was having severe allergy attack. Eyes swollen shut. He has this happen once a year or so. Husband tells me to stop on way home to get Benadryl. I did. Son was okay. But scared. Before I left to go back to work he called me upstairs and asked me to sit with him. He said he was scared that I was leaving. I said you are going to be fine. You are already looking better! He said “you care for me more than Dad”.

Maybe that’s typical? Kids wanting their moms? Or is that abnormal?
I can’t speak with experience on 8 year olds but I have a 4 year old daughter and some times she tells me that she wants me to just leave her alone and she wants mommy. and other times it is the opposite.

Honestly I think it has to do with whom stays home with them. He sees his Dad all day and then you for a shorter period of time so when you are both home I would guess he has the urge to spend time with you.
 
Here’s my problem. Going through this thread you might see how there are so many different issues/signals going on for me.

Yesterday I had a very very frustrating day at work. It was very tough… Bosses yelling screaming etc. me getting thrown under the bus etc. I told my DH again that this pressure is just too much. Our son needs me too and I’m working literally 14 hour days when news breaks. Anyway … He went from uncaring and unresponsive regarding the behavior explained previously here… To angry FOR me at my bosses. But not angry enough to help me be able to quit?

He said their actions were driving HIM crazy FOR me.

So I appreciated his support. Then he said he “forbids” me from working off the clock so to speak. I told him if I didn’t, I wouldn’t get all my work done. He said well that will teach them a lesson about how much they are invading your personal time. I told him I could get fired if I didn’t make my deadlines. (He knows this) and he just said too bad … They can’t treat you like that and expect you to give up your unscheduled hours for their deadlines.

Them he sent me this text:

I love you very much. I am here to support you. I’m an ear to listen. A shoulder to cry on. A pair of arms to hug you. And a heart to love you through all of the seasons of change.

When I came home for dinner I had the Benadryl for our son and he was just same ol angry person.

I want to believe his support is genuine. My therapy is teaching my otherwise, though.

What do you think?
 
There are good books on setting boundaries, and how to enact consequences, as well as making the Passive Aggressive feel empowered. The Passive Aggressive Man, Why Does He Do That, and I’ll look up the third one.

Most importantly, if you decide to stay, rededicate your marriage every day and Joseph, and inasmuch as it will take more tine away from you, find a support network online or in your community.
 
I’m sorry you have to put up with that. I had a passive-aggressive personality as a teenager / college student, but thanks be to God, it has mostly bled out of me through prayer and humility.

Passive-aggression is often a manifestation of cowardice. I imagine that he is fearful to be raw and open himself up to you in genuine ways, and so he uses sarcasm and flippant remarks as a shield to maintain a certain distance. Like everything that is evil, it has the potential to be habitual, and the more a person practices it, the more their charity & tenderness slowly decays. It will take a persistent, ongoing effort on his part to undo the damage he has done.

I will say a prayer for you. :crossrc: May God sanctify you in this trial.
 
From your recent posts, it sounds to me that he really struggles with empathy sometimes, but that other times, it just clicks for him. If someone else is being rude or taking advantage of you, he sees it and it makes him mad for you. But he doesn’t see it when he is the one at fault. This may never completely change, but one thing you can do is to learn how to set boundaries for yourself, professionally, and within interpersonal relationships. I do not see your situation or your marriage as irredeemable. I see that there is an unhealthy pattern here, but that you actually do have a great deal of control, which you have not yet realized and accepted.
For example, my husband comes from a family of generations of men who are prideful, who will not apologize, and who have a giant temper problem. One time, he was so mad at me that he flung a TV remote across the room, and it bounced off the floor and hit me in my knee pretty hard. I knew that it actually striking me was an accident, but the point is, he threw something in a rage, he wanted to threaten and intimidate me to get his way, and I was struck. I immediately took a stand. I had already seen enough of his temper to know that if I didn’t stand up for myself, it was likely to get worse, not better. I told him that throwing objects in a rage, and striking me, even if by accident, was not acceptable and I would not tolerate it. Over time, he has learned, with my firm rebukes, to control his temper. He is a much gentler man now. He stopped throwing things at people, and switched to throwing or hitting things away from people, and then moved to only occasionally breaking something in anger when no one is in the room, to having it be years since the last time he did something so destructive. Every time he got destructive, I would say loudly and firmly, but respectfully for him as a person, that such is not acceptable, I expect better of him, and he must not do such things. This is one way in which me standing up for myself forced him to change, not by begging or pleading, but simply because I was drawing a boundary and I would not tolerate him crossing that boundary in my presence. A few weeks ago, he went through a really difficult time with the children, and when he knew that he was getting emotionally unsafe, he went and locked himself in the bedroom to control himself before coming back out to rejoin the family being completely in control.
This is the kind of thing that a wife can help her husband with, urging him to be the best man he can be, not by nagging or complaining, but simply by setting appropriate boundaries and sticking to them. If the husband wants to cross those boundaries, then the wife can remove herself from the situation. There have been times where my husband was saying nasty/rude things or getting enraged, and I looked at him straight in the face and said, I do not have to tolerate this, and I just walked away. If he followed me, I called attention to the fact that he was pursuing me to continue his poor behavior and that was not acceptable. I have never gotten to the point where I actually had to leave the house. After dealing with his outbursts calmly and firmly like this over the years, I have demonstrated my own strength as a person and a wife, and he has mellowed out a lot. He knows that I love and respect him, and that I will stand up for myself without throwing a fit, and that I am not going to leave him for his faults, but neither will I just put up with it.
Sorry for the long post. I have read through your threads and I ended up having quite a few memories pop up from our more challenging times in marriage. We had happy times then, too, but sometimes it was really hard. Only you can decide if a similar approach will work for you and your marriage. But one thing is certain: NOBODY should have to silently absorb boundary violations from ANYONE ever. You should never ever ever feel guilty about saying “stop” or “no” or “I don’t like it when you treat me that way” or “I will not tolerate that”. Everyone has the right to set their own boundaries, and if a person does not set their own boundaries, then someone else will decide upon whatever boundaries (or no boundaries at all) that they feel expeditious and advantageous to them.
God bless!
 
I am sorry for your situation. I too am going through issues with my DH that he doesn’t want to address. Remember to be grateful and proud you are the bread winner, that is a huge asset in your favor. I don’t not have the means to leave without a huge decrease in living.

If your mother cannot support whatever you decide to do then no long discuss it with her. Find I support group that will be there for you. People who care about you listen to you when something is hurting you. Surround yourself with those people. You deserve better!
 
I was a victim of abuse when I was younger. I’ve worked with abused women and many of the things you posted about your husband sound like the tipical manipulator. Only you know for sure since we don’t know him. Here a few websites with good tips for dealing with such people wether or not you have have to deal with them at work or in your home. Best of luck and prayers.

way-of-the-mind.com/manipulative-people.html

ehow.com/how_2106098_deal-manipulator.html

lifeesteem.org/wellness/wellness_manipulation.html
 
I am reading those websites and recognizing a lot!

Also consider this:

I’m at work. I haven’t heard anything much from DH. But this is a typical text I will get in the afternoon just as I’m about to prepare for the news.

Sometimes he will send this kind of stuff during the news.

Child stepped in dog shi$ and tracked it all over house , including embedding it into the green rug. Ugh I’m exhausted!

Is that typical text a spouse might get while at work?
 
IIs that typical text a spouse might get while at work?
I think that is normal. Atleast I get those kind of texts all the time! They are meant to be funny as well.

Same thing if you would send a text to him saying “the boss is being a jerk. I’m so tired of him”.

It takes ALOT of patience to be a stay at home parent and I assume it can be depressing after a long day to know that the next day and every day after could be similar. Of course, it can also be very rewarding. Maybe it is just his way of venting
 
Very good point. Staying home is def not easy either … That is true.
 
I send my husband texts like that all the time. Dramatic retelling of the day’s events is one of the ways I blow off steam and makes it funny and helps my husband to feel involved and, to be honest, I like a little bit of commiseration. 😉
A stay-at-home parent gets a lot less adult stimulation and their daily routine can be a bit mundane or depressing at times. It can also be very rewarding. But knowing that the working parent understands that and cares about the little crises makes a huge difference in being able to deal with it. :o
So yes, I think texts or phone calls like that are very normal. 😃
 
I am starting to recognize this is emotional abuse…
Yes, this is emotional abuse.

Generally speaking, people exhibit this kind of behavior as a means to control and manipulate. You need to find loving and constructive ways to not allow him to control you, but encourage him to be honest and open about what he’s feeling.

I think the situation is simple. The presence of a third party (i.e. your parents) helped you to see the situation in an objective light. You didn’t like it, so you snapped.

It may not have been the best way to handle the situation, but it’s a symptom of a much, much deeper problem. You have to own up to this or it will only get worse.

I’m no expert, but I’d recommend you seek counseling. Hopefully, your husband will be open to it.
 
Many of you have said it’s going to be difficult for the tiger to change his stripes and I noticed that again tonight.

DH told me yesterday … he would try not to be so sarcastic. Well, tonight, I told him a girlfriend invited me to lunch tomorrow and she asked our son to come so he could play with her daughter.

His immediate reaction, “Well, thanks for the invite. Guess I’m not welcome.”

I just kindly said…well, this was supposed to be a girls’ lunch…and she just asked our son to come, because I almost cancelled as to avoid spending time away from him.

He said nothing.

But that is VERY typical from DH. How can I fix that?
 
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Child stepped in dog shi$ and tracked it all over house , including embedding it into the green rug. Ugh I’m exhausted!

Is that typical text a spouse might get while at work?
No. It sounds very immature to me.
 
Many of you have said it’s going to be difficult for the tiger to change his stripes and I noticed that again tonight.

DH told me yesterday … he would try not to be so sarcastic. Well, tonight, I told him a girlfriend invited me to lunch tomorrow and she asked our son to come so he could play with her daughter.

His immediate reaction, “Well, thanks for the invite. Guess I’m not welcome.”

I just kindly said…well, this was supposed to be a girls’ lunch…and she just asked our son to come, because I almost cancelled as to avoid spending time away from him.

He said nothing.

But that is VERY typical from DH. How can I fix that?
I don’t think you CAN fix that, because you can’t fix the behavior of another grown person. However, you CAN fix your response, and moderate any internal reactions, in order to present an exterior that appears unaffected by his sarcasm. You could also make a comment about his use of sarcasm, something like “really? Sarcasm again? If you feel left out, just say so.” Then, it would be his choice whether or not to try again in that instance to have a real dialogue, and/or be less sarcastic next time, or not. But your attention is best focused upon your reaction. You do not want to rise or act hurt or offended. Then he wins. He got in his dig. By changing yourself, you remove the reward he gets for being so sarcastic toward you. Then it is up to him whether or not he will improve himself accordingly.
I am no expert. I am just sharing thoughts about what I would do. Good luck.
 
That sounds terrible. I’m sorry you’re going through this and will pray for you.
 
Many of you have said it’s going to be difficult for the tiger to change his stripes and I noticed that again tonight.

DH told me yesterday … he would try not to be so sarcastic. Well, tonight, I told him a girlfriend invited me to lunch tomorrow and she asked our son to come so he could play with her daughter.

His immediate reaction, “Well, thanks for the invite. Guess I’m not welcome.”

I just kindly said…well, this was supposed to be a girls’ lunch…and she just asked our son to come, because I almost cancelled as to avoid spending time away from him.

He said nothing.

But that is VERY typical from DH. How can I fix that?
Your husband sounds like he is being left out so why not plan some special time with him? He has said things like that a lot----get the message.

If you have heard Dr. Laura she has a book— barnesandnoble.com/w/proper-care-and-feeding-of-husbands-laura-schlessinger/1100331928?ean=9780061796746

I think that would be good to read as well. Stay at home parent is hard, just as hard as your job. Does he ever have a guys’ lunch? You two need a vacation. Let your mother take care of your son.

I see her book has some bad reviews but feminists really hate Dr. Laura since she talks about religion and values. I don’t think she blames women for everything but she does take people to task on what they are doing to make matters worse.

This is another book. I don’t think she is saying you can change your husband but you certainly can change your reaction to what he does and people HAVE to change if we act differently than how we reacted in the past.

barnesandnoble.com/w/woman-power-laura-schlessinger/1111393816?ean=9780061834295
 
Sometimes he will send this kind of stuff during the news.

Child stepped in dog shi$ and tracked it all over house , including embedding it into the green rug. Ugh I’m exhausted!
Whilst washing dishes I was thinking of this.

Do you think you might have responded with concern or alarm too many times, and thereby tacitly encouraged your husband in these false dramatic announcements?

Is it possible to sometimes be detached and brush them aside, a simple but unemotional “Poor you” And a matter of fact but kind/cheerful enough. “Okay, see you when I get home”.

Something like that, so that by not buying into the dramas, he finds it less rewarding to tease you.
 
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