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It all makes sense. My understanding of the rosary was that it was more or less just another cross or crucifix that people like to wear. I didn’t realize it had biblical value. Although, what is Vatican II? and why did this cause the rosary to die down? Is the rosary not used anymore?

Should I start crossing myself before and after prayer?

This makes alot more sense now. You don’t pray to saints and ask them for answers to prayers but you pray to saints to have them pray on behalf of you right?
 
Vatican II was a big event where the Church practices etc where all re-examined and ‘modernised’ with the desire to make the church closer to the apostolic origins but for today.
This had an enormous effect on the church and some of the controversy is still being debated today.

vatican2voice.org/

Cross yourself if you want and think about why when you are doing it.

Yes people pray to the saints to pray on our behalf. Many people have a favourite saint they feel closest to.
 
TheIrishman said:
It all makes sense. My understanding of the rosary was that it was more or less just another cross or crucifix that people like to wear. I didn’t realize it had biblical value. Although, what is Vatican II? and why did this cause the rosary to die down? Is the rosary not used anymore?

Should I start crossing myself before and after prayer?

This makes alot more sense now. You don’t pray to saints and ask them for answers to prayers but you pray to saints to have them pray on behalf of you right?
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I highly recommend Dr. Scott Hahn’s book:

Signs of Life: 40 Catholic Customs and Their Biblical Roots
 
Welcome! I “Came Home” to the Catholic Church 2 years ago now; I converted from a VERY active LDS family. I haven’t once looked back- I find myself so in love with God’s Church that I haven’t missed the LDS church at all.

I have a very close connection to Ireland too as I’m a Championship Irish dancer (I’m working on getting certified to teach, too), so if you ever want to “geek out” about all things Irish I’m your gal 👍

It’s SO heartwarming to hear of our brothers and sisters in Christ approaching the forums interested in Catholicism. I swear I never knew true spirituality until I was baptized into the Catholic Church.
 
TheIrishman said:
Quick question about reason’s Catholics do what they do.
  1. A rosary, where did it come from? why is it used? how should it be used?
  2. To Cross oneself. Why do you do it? When do you do it?
  3. Intercession of Saints and Mary. Where did this doctrine come from and Whats the benefit of doing that instead of praying directly to God?
Thanks.
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  1. Origin: ancient. Don’t know, but it predates St. Dominic I think! It is a tool for prayer that engages your entire mind. While your lips repeat the sequence of prayers, you meditate upon the passion of Christ and how each mystery of the rosary (look 'em up) is tied up in your prayer requests.
  2. Catholicism encompases the whole person. Faith isn’t a part of life, it infuses ALL of our lives. Use of the sign of the cross at prayer time and at events that point to spiritual realities reminds us that there IS no divide between our secular lives and spiritual. Historically, catholics make the sign of the cross at the beginning and ending of prayers, every time we pass a church (with the Blessed Sacrament present), every time we notice an emergency (sirens), etc. Over and over, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It’s a discipline by which you invite God to every aspect of your life and remind yourself of what really matters.
  3. Same reason you ask other believers to pray for you. Dead ones just have rather more time on their hands for it, no? 😉
 
I keep coming across side notes that lead to a person by the name of St Irenaeus. Was he an early church father? are there any good books by early church fathers that I should read? I figure one of the best ways to gain truth is to go directly to the source and to those closest to the source. The Apostles and their successors.
 
SpeSalvi said:
Welcome! I “Came Home” to the Catholic Church 2 years ago now; I converted from a VERY active LDS family. I haven’t once looked back- I find myself so in love with God’s Church that I haven’t missed the LDS church at all.

I have a very close connection to Ireland too as I’m a Championship Irish dancer (I’m working on getting certified to teach, too), so if you ever want to “geek out” about all things Irish I’m your gal 👍

It’s SO heartwarming to hear of our brothers and sisters in Christ approaching the forums interested in Catholicism. I swear I never knew true spirituality until I was baptized into the Catholic Church.
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I would love to discuss Ireland with you! And I don’t think i’ve ever met an actually Championship Irish Dancer before! Thats super neat! Which dance is your favorite to perform?

I once saw a performance in Cork, they performed the Seige of Ennis and the Walls of Limerick. I thought it was super awesome!
 
I’m reading the Catechism and am a little confused about who God is. For those who don’t know, the LDS believes God has a body of flesh and bone but is glorified. What is the Catholic view of God? I’m a little confused.
 
Welcome to the Catholic church. If you are looking for some beginner literature, that is easy to read. I recommend that you read Catholicism for Dummies and Why do Catholics genuflect by Al Kresta.

As questions arise, please feel free to ask them on this forum. We have some wonderful knowledgable people from across the globe on this forum.

SG
 
TheIrishman said:
I’m reading the Catechism and am a little confused about who God is. For those who don’t know, the LDS believes God has a body of flesh and bone but is glorified. What is the Catholic view of God? I’m a little confused.
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God is the Alpha & Omega. He has no begining nor an end. God is what He wants to be. He has no limits. I think this is the hardest thing to wrap our minds around as humans. 😃
 
Praise the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit…for leading you to us. Welcome and please know…I am a ‘cradle Catholic’ and I constantly learn new things every day about our Faith…The history of the church from the very beginning will amaze and delight you. Especially the teachings of St. Peter, the Rock! There is a wonderful thing happening right now…more and more people are searching for and finding the truth through the church and it’s history and teachings. Enjoy and know you are surrounded by prayer and the love of Christ.👍
 
SecretGarden said:
Welcome to the Catholic church. If you are looking for some beginner literature, that is easy to read. I recommend that you read Catholicism for Dummies and Why do Catholics genuflect by Al Kresta.

As questions arise, please feel free to ask them on this forum. We have some wonderful knowledgable people from across the globe on this forum.

SG
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I’ll have to order this, seems like its a good read since another member told me to read it also!
 
TheIrishman said:
I’m reading the Catechism and am a little confused about who God is. For those who don’t know, the LDS believes God has a body of flesh and bone but is glorified. What is the Catholic view of God? I’m a little confused.
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Scripture tells us that Jesus is the image of the invisible God (Col 1:15). How then can God (other than the incarnate Jesus) have a body of flesh and bone? Your difficulty comes from not having been properly taught about the Trinity. The Son of God the Father became incarnate (took on human flesh) and became man. He was not always man and before he was man he had no physical body, just as the Father and the Holy Spirit have no physical body. Nowhere in scripture does it say that the Father has a body of flesh and bone. This was one of Joseph Smith’s inventions.

The Catholic view of God is that He is one divine Being consisting of three divine Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. That is why Jesus instructed us to baptize in the name (not names) of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This is a mystery beyond human understanding. Keep in mind that if we could grasp God, then he could be no greater than we are. I would recommend reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church for an in depth answer to who God is. We do not pretend to understand the Trinity. It has been revealed to us that there is only one God. It has also been revealed that Jesus is God and that the Father to whom he prayed was God and that the Holy Spirit is God. Because it has been divinely revealed, we believe it even though it surpasses our understanding.

You are in my prayers.

God bless.
 
TheIrishman said:
I’m new to the forums (obviously) and I figure since I put my faith as LDS that this is where I would go to ask some questions.

So I would like to learn and better understand the Catholic Church and what it teaches and why. I don’t really have any knowledge of it other then my Grandparents are Catholic.

I was born into the LDS faith (parents converted) and even served a mission to Ireland. Which is where I became more attracted to the Catholic Church and espeically enjoyed it because thats where my ancestors hail from. But recently, and i mean very recently, i’ve had an urge and quite frankly a sense of excitement when thinking about learning about the Catholic Church.

So, I would like to learn, not all at once of course, but little by little. Just like in the bible where it states you can’t eat meat without first learning to drink milk (or something along those lines). Wheres a good place to start and what are some basics that I would need to learn first. Thanks for the help and hopefully again, i’m starting this thread in the right forum. (fingers crossed)

p.s. on a side note, I see people with quotes and pictures next to their names or at the buttom of their comments. How do you do that?
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Welcome to CAF!!

Here’s an excellent article that compares Catholic Liturgy with the LDS temple.

This link offers a PDF download that includes several interesting pictures. byustudies.byu.edu/showtitle.aspx?title=5448

Best wishes in your search.
 
kimg901 said:
God is the Alpha & Omega. He has no begining nor an end. God is what He wants to be. He has no limits. I think this is the hardest thing to wrap our minds around as humans. 😃
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Yup, thats whats confusing about it haha but at the same time it makes sense. Why limit God to a body or any type of form for that matter.
 
SteveVH said:
Scripture tells us that Jesus is the image of the invisible God (Col 1:15). How then can God (other than the incarnate Jesus) have a body of flesh and bone? Your difficulty comes from not having been properly taught about the Trinity. The Son of God the Father became incarnate (took on human flesh) and became man. He was not always man and before he was man he had no physical body, just as the Father and the Holy Spirit have no physical body. Nowhere in scripture does it say that the Father has a body of flesh and bone. This was one of Joseph Smith’s inventions.

The Catholic view of God is that He is one divine Being consisting of three divine Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. That is why Jesus instructed us to baptize in the name (not names) of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This is a mystery beyond human understanding. Keep in mind that if we could grasp God, then he could be no greater than we are. I would recommend reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church for an in depth answer to who God is. We do not pretend to understand the Trinity. It has been revealed to us that there is only one God. It has also been revealed that Jesus is God and that the Father to whom he prayed was God and that the Holy Spirit is God. Because it has been divinely revealed, we believe it even though it surpasses our understanding.

You are in my prayers.

God bless.
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So basically, its 3 persons in 1 but the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Father and the Father and Son are not the Holy Spirit. But all 3 of these together make God?
 
TheIrishman said:
Yup, thats whats confusing about it haha but at the same time it makes sense. Why limit God to a body or any type of form for that matter.
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For me, I just pray and thank God for everything I have been blessed with. Dont try and think of Him on our scale.
 
TheIrishman said:
So basically, its 3 persons in 1 but the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Father and the Father and Son are not the Holy Spirit. But all 3 of these together make God?
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They are all 1. If they were not of each other than there would be no Trinity.
 
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