I never expected having kids to be so hard

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We have six ourselves. When we were expecting our fourth, my wife and I happened to encounter the mother of my college roommate. He was oldest of 11.

Her comment on hearing that we were expecting our 6th child “Oh that’s fantastic, I really don’t know how people with less than 6 can manage” 🙂
That’s so true, isn’t it? The children seem to listen more to their elder siblings than to their parents, so the first 4-5 kids are bedlam, but after that - peace and harmony. 🙂
 
That’s so true, isn’t it? The children seem to listen more to their elder siblings than to their parents, so the first 4-5 kids are bedlam, but after that - peace and harmony. 🙂
not gonna test that theory 😃

I’m stopping at my 2 lil angels 🙂
 
I have dear friends who have a daughter who is addicted to crystal meth. I can see the pain and anguish they feel. Their daughter is over 18 and has had two children out of wedlock and is now an addict to boot. Her two children are now being raised by my friends. Please pray for them.
Oh, man…I’m so sorry. I just found this message. If I don’t answer a post like this, please PM me and let me know about it so I can pray. There is no experimentation with meth - just once and you’re hooked. It’s really tough to get the addicts off of it, too. But I will certainly pray for all involved.

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My Mum always said that the first 2 or 3 were the hardest and that it got easier after that. She had 11. I’m expecting my 6th now and I have certainly found that to be true.
Ultimately, what helps me the most when things are difficult, is to remember that love is an action that involves sacrifice. If we make those sacrifices, then the love is multiplied abundantly.
 
Oh, man…I’m so sorry. I just found this message. If I don’t answer a post like this, please PM me and let me know about it so I can pray. There is no experimentation with meth - just once and you’re hooked. It’s really tough to get the addicts off of it, too. But I will certainly pray for all involved.

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FWIW, my brother did meth for a few years and he got himself clean and sober with no rehab. he fell in-love with a great woman and he stopped everything to keep her interested.

now they are married and happy.
 
That’s so true, isn’t it? The children seem to listen more to their elder siblings than to their parents, so the first 4-5 kids are bedlam, but after that - peace and harmony. 🙂
One great thing about having 5 is that we have those extra little teachers in the house. I worked on the alphabet with our 2-year-old until my voice was hoarse and the best I could get out of her was A, B, E and F. Our older girls worked on it with her one afternoon and she was saying the whole thing.
 
I think it’s harder than it has to be, because of our current culture. Our culture doesn’t value new life…it values money, independenc, attention, instant gratification. Think of Mary going to stay with Elizabeth for 3 months. How often do we see this now? Did any of my younger childless cousins (or even my childless little sister) come stay with me when I had my last baby? Even when my husband had to deploy when baby was 5 days old? Of course not! Young women are commonly wrapped up in their own selfish world, perusing their own “goals”. We don’t help each other anymore. We don’t value family anymore. Rarely do generations live together today, helping to care for young children in groups. That’s how it used to be and science shows this benefits children and mothers the most. But we rarely have grandmas, aunts, cousins helping to raise children in the family. Mothers today tend to be very isolated, shouldering all the weight themselves. I would love to see things heading the other way.
This is it! We moved to a country with 2yr maternity leave, lots of grandparent involvement and therefore I’m always surrounded by other mommies and babies which makes life so much easier! My unmarried sister Also helps out every week which has made it possible for us to make it with 3 young ones and a demanding job and community/parish involvement just fine.
I sometimes think some people are virtually born to be parents; some not so much, and some not at all.

But I also think growing up in a household full of kids makes it easier for the next generation. In my birth family, there were six of us, and it was just part of it that the older kids helped out with the younger ones. You didn’t even much think about it. You did it because you were told to do it, but also because you actually wanted to do it. Hard to explain.

I marvel at one of my daughters who has eight kids. Far from being a melee, they are astonishingly orderly. A ten-year-old, for example has no difficulty holding a baby for a long, long time so Mom could do whatever. A teenage girl sees no problem in driving the younger ones to their games or whatever. Some of the smaller ones have specific “cleanup” areas and do it. They’re also creative and I think the presence of theolder ones encourages the younger ones in that regard. The little ones benefit by being taught and the older ones benefit by getting their minds organized enough to teach.


As a stay-at-home Mom, my wife often required more adult conversation “relief” when I got home than I did. Talking to your kids is wonderful, but it’s harder for women because they do more of it. My daughter with the 8 kids is the same way, so when I’m on the road, I call her from the car and talk with her a long time. It’s a need.

Those kinds of things do make it harder for women. They add up.
Indeed, I’ve seen more order and more virtue in children of large families than otherwise and the parents also tend to be exemplary… Because that’s what having lots of kids does to you!
I can so relate to this. I was not raised to be a mom, but to get a higher education and have a career. Having kids has been such a shock, and I must admit that I often feel like a failure as a mother. I always question myself, my ability to cope and do things right. I also dislike how I have nothing else going on in my life. I am envious when I listen to my husband talk about his work. We both got a PhD in the same field and he has a rewarding career, while I spend my days changing dirty nappies, cooking, cleaning and dreaming of intellectual challenges. I can’t wait to go and get a job at some point, probably part time. I believe that working outside of home, using my brain again and just being away from the kids for a few hours will make me a better, happier mother. I love my kids and can’t imagine my life without them, but I hope that my circumstances will change and that I will be able to strike the work-family balance, for the sake of my own sanity. I am just not made to be a SAHM.
I feel the same! That’s why my husband supported me in establishing a ministry that challenges me and that makes me feel so fulfilled and gives me the needed break from cries, diapers , kitchen/ laundry room!
That’s so true, isn’t it? The children seem to listen more to their elder siblings than to their parents, so the first 4-5 kids are bedlam, but after that - peace and harmony. 🙂
Very true! It was like that among the 4 of us siblings and it’s starting to be like that with our 2 older ones!

To those who say one makes them crazy, I have no doubt! And until they get a sibling (at least) they will continue to do so! I will much more happily move on to number 4 than have number 1 again. It was a very adorable terror, having one.
 
No matter how many times a parent told me that raising kids is difficult, I never truly believed them. I always thought, “come on, how hard can it be?”

Until I had kids of my own, I never really respected the job of being a parent. What a shock to my system this whole thing has been! I had PPD after my son and being a mom is literally the hardest thing I have EVER done in my life and I’ve done some pretty remarkeable things.

I just never expected motherhood to be such a difficult job. I love being a mom, but boy…the lack of personal space/time, patience, rest…it just gets to you sometimes. The exhaustion some days…OMG!

I can also imagine how rewarding it must be to watch your children grow up and then when you look back, you will have life long memories of love and togetherness (hopefully with God’s help).
My husband and I talked this question over during one of our drives up north to see my dad (who is dying of cancer).

Don’t mean to sound like smart-alecks, but honestly, we didn’t think it was that hard. I’m not posting this to brag, but to convince people that children won’t ruin their lives, but instead, will enhance their lives.

We truly enjoyed being parents at all ages of our daughters’ lives.

The hardest time for me was in the first few months after the girls were born. I’ve mentioned before on CAF that I cannot function without sleep and that I actually get sick to my stomach and throw up if I am overly-tired, which means that I can’t do much of anything. So those first few months were pretty grim, and I really don’t like tiny babies very much.

This is one of the reasons why I deliberately chose to sleep-train my children. It wasn’t about what was “convenient” for me. It was about what was necessary for me to be able to function.

But once we got through those first few months, and once the girls were sleeping through the night (8 hours straight or more), things were pretty wonderful. Of course we had bad days, especially when one of the girls was sick–so hard to see your little one sick. But truly, honestly, we had so many joyful moments.

We didn’t have a difficult time with discipline. Our older daughter was a live wire (the pastor called her “Energizer Bunny”), but we didn’t know that until we had our 2nd daughter, who we thought might have something wrong with her because she was not nearly so energetic as our first daughter! (We later discovered that our first daughter was way off the scale when it came to energy, and still is, while our 2nd daughter is more in the “normal range”!)

Our younger daughter had problems with change–any change in her environment or caregiver or food or dress or anything caused her to scream. But we learned ways to deal with it. She’s still like that at age 27. 🙂

So we didn’t have “angel children” by any means. And we certainly were not “angel parents.”

I think what helped is having a “plan” before we had children, and being willing to stick with that plan, and make adjustments when things didn’t work out (although most of the time, things worked). I’ve mentioned many times that we went with Dr. Dobson’s methods, and this worked for us. I don’t think that parents have to choose Dr. Dobson–they can go with whatever is best for them and their children. The important thing is to not just “wing it,” but to develop a plan IN ADVANCE. Parents should discuss their “philosophy of childrearing,” and make sure they are on the same page. Again, it doesn’t matter if it’s AP or some other philosophy–the main thing is, both parents have to buy into it.

I think it was immensely important that both my husband and I were a single, undefeatable, strong UNIT when it came to child-rearing. We worked together, side by side, and no job (other than breastfeeding) was “My” job. It was all OUR job. I really feel for parents who are trying to raise children alone due to a spouse’s job or even more sad, because of a divorce. This makes child-rearing very difficult.

I hope these suggestions are helpful to those who are hesitant about having children.

Again, we loved raising our daughters and we did a good job. As Serap said, it gives us great pleasure to look back and remember all those happy days. We are enjoying the fruits of our labors now that the girls are grown up. The older they get, the more fun they are!
 
That’s what our parents call payback 😉
LOL Yep. I was a nanny and designated babysitter for from 7 to 19. Decided I could wait a while to have kids after that. I never did have any but while I like kids I’m not all that sorry they are a lot of work. Maybe someday I’ll adopt an older kid but it doesn’t seem likely right now. Good luck and prayers.
 
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