I swallow a Birth-Control-Pill today

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What if there’s no way to know the exact number? Maybe something like “more then X number of times”? Would that be good enough?
Someone else gave a good reply, but I’ll add my two cents.

While we are required to confess by kind and number, God isn’t an accountant and He doesn’t hold things beyond our control against us. The by number thing is for our benefit, not His.

But as for the practical aspect, I would probably go with a frequency thing “I committed the sin of X approximately twice a week for 5 years,” or something like that.
 
What if there’s no way to know the exact number? Maybe something like “more then X number of times”? Would that be good enough?
HB, the question for you is, have you been previously baptised in a ‘recognized’ Christian religion, i.e. one the Catholic church recognizes as a valid baptism. If the answer is yes, you will have to go to confession. Before you go, you should examine your conscience and confess all sins you can remember, and which you are contrite about.

If you have not been baptized in a valid baptism, you will be baptized at Easter Vigil, which will immediately render you sinless in the eyes of God.

If you were baptized, but cannot prove that baptism (for example, I was, but the records were lost in Hurricane Katrina), you would be provisionally baptized, and again, you would be sinless in the eyes of God.

That doesn’t preclude you having a conversation with God and expressing your sorrow for the sins you committed in the past.
 
franksta:

Isn’t that really known as an “occasion of sin”, and not “sin”?
 
I find it hard to believe/accept that swallowing a pill can be a sin when there is no pregnancy being prevented.
Consider if I were to set up a deadly trap on my doorstep that I needed to reset each day to be sure it was in working order. I set the trap to kill whatever solicitor or JW showed up, but no one shows up that month, so I then disable the trap. Have I sinned? Yes. I had murderous intent, which is a sin, even if no one was successfully killed by the trap. I set the trap hoping that it would do its job if a person were to show up. My intent is what it is long before any person shows up or not, so whether someone in fact shows up is not relevant to my intent.

I know, it is a bad analogy, but I’m hoping you can see that intent is separate from success. The intent of the person who takes the pill each day is what it is at the moment they take the pill. If your boyfriend dumps you before you get to the rendevous point, that doesn’t change what you intended when you swallowed the pill.
 
AkronPonderer,

Is WHAT an occasion of sin?

Sin ultimately starts in the heart. If you are interrupted in or prevented from acting on your sinful desires by boredom or circumstance, well you’ve received grace from God…but I wouldn’t presume that my intent wasn’t sinful if I “would’ve if I could’ve”. I mean, if you have to ask if you’ve crossed the line, I think it’s too late. And most virtue is merely lack of opportunity anyway…
 
Pug:

Your assumption that I intended to have sexual relations in my hypothetical example is just that, an assumption. My stated intent was to “prevent any pregnancy that may otherwise occur”.
 
If a woman does not intend relations, how would she “otherwise get pregnant”? In any event, intentional prevention of conception is a sin.
 
In any event, intentional prevention of conception is a sin.
hmm, so then by that definition, NFP, would also fall under the category of sin because if we intentionally search out if one is ovulating with the intent to not have sex if conception is a greater possibility, then we sin in doing this.

I am not saying that NFP is a sin, only that your definition does not really hold up.
 
The whole issue of NFP has been discussed on this forum at great length, and is totally different, because there is still an openness to life. But in regard to your point, I would rephrase my definition to say that pursuing ABC with an intent to prevent all potential pregnancies (even if the process is interrupted at some point) would be a sin.
 
Pug:

Your assumption that I intended to have sexual relations in my hypothetical example is just that, an assumption. My stated intent was to “prevent any pregnancy that may otherwise occur”.
You are right, what I wrote is slanted in that direction, but I didn’t assume it was your intent. I’ve taken it as hypothetical, and not representative of you as in actually YOU. I was trying to illustrate the lack of connection between intent and what happens later, no matter what kind of intent it was. Also, I was trying to pick a situation/intent that involved sin, since the snippet I was responding to seemed to encourage hypothetical pondering about how it could be a sin. Thus I provided one scenario in my last sentence, although I know that was not given in your first post. I’m sorry it came off like I thought that was your actual intent. I was trying to accomodate the suggestion of making it be a sin. This motivated me to add an intent that was undisputably sinful. I think perhaps I misunderstood the snippet I quoted in my previous post.:o

Is it your wish to discuss non-sinful intents for taking the pill?

for reference, the snippet I misunderstood:
I find it hard to believe/accept that swallowing a pill can be a sin when there is no pregnancy being prevented.
P.S. I suspect I may still not be “getting” it.
 
you have to confess sin by kind and number…but if you have forgetten the number, that’s fine, just like if you sincerely forget a sin, that’s fine. Mention that fact at the beginning and move on.

For the Big Ones, you should be able to remember (how many people you murdered, how many different women you’ve committed adultery with, maybe even how many times you’ve done so…etc) But sometimes after coming back to the Church after 30 years, of course you wont remember…maybe not even be able to remember for the “big ones”.

For the little ones…just give a mention if it happened only a few times, or if it happened an inordinate ammount of times…but if it happened an “average” ammount of times…you dont really have to say anything if you dont remember the exact number.

And for some sins…its hard to define “how many times”. Perhaps pornography would be a good example. Is it how many pictures you saw? How many “sessions” of looking at porn? How long the sessions were? How many impure thoughts you had WHILE looking at the porn?

So…throw in number if you know it…if you don’t, then give a general idea if it is important to the level of culpability of the sin (ie, if you’re doing it constantly, or if you only did it rarely)…but otherwise, don’t obsess too much over “number” and concentrate on Kind (which, remember, is not every specific instance…but merely the “type” of sin. You dont have to tell the specific story of every sin…just the Title of the sin “murder” “adultery” “theft”] etc…though stuff like How Much you stole should be thrown in (the exact items if you remember…a general ammount if you dont [ie, a little bit, a lot, petty or grand, minor things or major, only a few times…or constantly, etc])
 
OK. I have the fleeting thought and intent to rob a bank. I actually search for and find my baby brother’s toy pistol, thinking “this is what I’ll use to rob the bank”. I lose interest and go play video games. I never have the thought again or enter a bank. Have I sinned? When?
If you consciously decide and plan that you’re going to rob a bank, and are prevented or unsuccessful through chance rather than through a conscious decision not to do it, it’s a sin.

What you say in the confessional is ‘father, I planned to rob a bank on one occasion’ (since the whole plan is one event). You might give some detail, eg that you also took your brother’s toy gun to use.

These details are more to give the priest an idea of whether it’s a sin you’re strongly or frequently inclined to, what surrounding circumstances may be triggers for the sin, and what the appropriate penance or advice may be.

The length of time doesn’t really seem to matter in this case, but if he thinks it’s relevant he’ll ask.
 
I would not be a sin if your doctor prescribed them. A doctor might do this to prevent severe pain and/or heavy bleeding. I also think that it might be permissable if you were in serious danger of being raped. Let’s say a girl has a relative who is abusing her, and she sees no way to escape. Also, I read once years ago that some missionary nuns were on birth control pills because so many of them were being raped. I don’t remember the year or the country.
 
I don’t think it’s morally licit to take BCP even if one is being raped. The potential for abortion comes into play.
 
buffalo:

Knowing the intent I stated in my original post, how many sins should I Confess?
You would say, “I took birth control pills for 28 days for the purpose of preventing a pregnancy because I thought that I might be having sex during that period of time,” or else you would say, 'I went on the birth control pill for one month without a good medical reason to do so, because I was thinking that I might have sex, and I didn’t want to end up pregnant."

There is no need to “count” in this case - all you do is just state the facts in an honest and straightforward way.
 
I would not be a sin if your doctor prescribed them. A doctor might do this to prevent severe pain and/or heavy bleeding. I also think that it might be permissable if you were in serious danger of being raped. Let’s say a girl has a relative who is abusing her, and she sees no way to escape. Also, I read once years ago that some missionary nuns were on birth control pills because so many of them were being raped. I don’t remember the year or the country.
This is still a really bad idea, because the birth control pill cannot prevent AIDS or STDs, which are a far more likely outcome than pregnancy, in this situation.

What the child needs is to get out of that situation, period. The perpetrator needs to be locked up or at the very least, get a restraining order to not be allowed to be alone with that girl. (She also needs to be taught self-defense and safety protocols, but that’s a secondary issue.)
 
You have to have numbers?

I’m in RCIA and was on BC for two years(no never married, very bad I know) How am I supposed to know how many sins I commited there? I mean, it was definitely a lot.😦

I’m honestly very nervous about confession. Like, what to say and how and such. Then again, I have 20 years of confessing to do.

Not trying to jack the thread or anything. Just confused I guess about the…what has to be done/said.

Very good question BTW OP!
I have an outline that may be of use to you, when the time comes. You can bookmark it HERE.

Just confess your sins in a conversational way. For example, a person might say, “I was very disrespectful toward my mother during my early teen years, and often argued with her over things like my chores, my homework, and my friends. I was frequently disobedient and untruthful during that period of my life. Some examples of disobedience at that time were … and some examples of things I lied about were …”

Don’t worry about numbers. If he needs to know any numbers, he will ask.

Be sure to mention that it is your First Confession, and let him know that you will appreciate it if he helps you. He may ask you some very uncomfortable questions, but just answer him truthfully and in a very simple way - yes, no, this many times, I was this age at the time, etc. Normally, it is not necessary to delve into a great saga of adventure about our sins, or to go on at great length about them.
 
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