I was born in-Vitro, so does that mean God didn't want me to exist?

[N0X3x]

My mother was conceived through the rape of my grandmother. My mom was given up for adoption after birth and later in life met her mother but will never know her biological father.

According to your logic, my two siblings, myself and my four kids and my siblings kids should all not exist -and that’s a lot of people!

…of course it’s not true.

(If you imagine how many people throughout history were born illegitimately, and all their grandchildren and so on -the numbers might equal something like 100% of all modern humanity)

well said.

If it makes you feel any better, spiderbyte, every person (And I feel reasonably confident in saying “EVERY person”) is in existence because of a sexual sin of some sort of their ancestors, and would not exist if their ancestors had not sinned. This can be difficult to swallow when you first realize it.

 

[TK421]

I was born in-Vitro also. High five my fellow spawn of the Netherworld.

No but seriously, 40% of American kids are born out of wedlock or something. Just because you were conceived in an imperfect context doesn’t mean God doesn’t want you to exist. In fact, if we take this train of thought to its ultimate conclusion, none of us are really born within a context of absolutely perfect fidelity. We are born in world corrupted.

 

[EasterJoy]

I was born in-Vitro also. High five my fellow spawn of the Netherworld.

No but seriously, 40% of American kids are born out of wedlock or something. Just because you were conceived in an imperfect context doesn’t mean God doesn’t want you to exist. In fact, if we take this train of thought to its ultimate conclusion, none of us are really born within a context of absolutely perfect fidelity. We are born in world corrupted.

King Solomon came to be because his father had the poor fellow his mother had been married to killed. From this line, came Our Savior…a person doesn’t get any more “God’s plan” than that.

 

[RPRPsych]

I was born in-Vitro also. High five my fellow spawn of the Netherworld.

No but seriously, 40% of American kids are born out of wedlock or something. Just because you were conceived in an imperfect context doesn’t mean God doesn’t want you to exist. In fact, if we take this train of thought to its ultimate conclusion, none of us are really born within a context of absolutely perfect fidelity. We are born in world corrupted.

Absolutely. Psalm 51 sums this up beautifully.

 

[TEPO]

I was born in-Vitro also. High five my fellow spawn of the Netherworld.

Now this is really starting to get good! (I’m going to get all teary eyed if you guys don’t cut this out. Seriously!)

 

[Mustard]

You exist. No sin of yours brought you into existence, and whatever your parents did, they did, not you. You started with a clean slate. What you do with that slate is up to you.

 

[stephe1987]

A lot of people are in this world because of sin:

40% of babies in the U.S. are born out of wedlock. That number increases to 72.5% for African Americans.

About 1% are here because their mother was raped and she chose not to have an abortion.

I’m not sure about the percentages for IVF, but the numbers have increased in recent years due to couples delaying having children until they’re in their late 30’s or older.

Not to mention sperm donors, egg donors or surrogate pregnancies.

A lot of babies are born to remarried couples or people in invalid marriages.

And of course anyone who was adopted (unless they’re an actual orphan) was most likely conceived in sin: unwed mother, drug addict mother. abusive situation (domestic violence, rape, incest), etc.

You are here. God loves you. That is what’s important. God is an expert lemonade maker and can make good come out of sin. It was not His divine will, but it was His permissive will.

We all have original sin but that doesn’t mean that we are responsible for our parents’ sins. It just means that we are fallen. Adam and Eve chose the more difficult path for themselves and their descendants.

Each one of us will have to answer for our own sins. Pray for your soul and your parents’ souls. Use the sacrament of reconciliation. Once a sin has been forgiven, it’s time to move forward. If it’s not your sin, just pray for that person and don’t worry about it (it’s out of your control and there is no need to drive yourself crazy). Trust in God’s mercy.

To be honest, because catechesis has been so poor over the last ~50 years, your parents might not have even met the requirements for mortal sin. A lot of people don’t know that IVF is wrong, fornication is widely accepted in society, etc. But that is why there are sites like these: to inform people of the true teachings of the Church.

Luckily, there have been great advancements in infertility treatments that don’t go against Church teaching (NaPro technology) and there is always adoption.

 

[TRH1292]

Jesus is a descendant of David, who conceived of Solomon with a woman that he had committed the act of adultery with.

 

[blaskoman]

Many children conceived via pre-marital relations. --like in vitro, a major sin. children born of such means are innocent… hope you can get your parents to confess.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

We are all sinners and to be honest I don’t think any of us would have been here if we had all been obedient to God.

Now my understanding of catholic theology is 0 on this, so if I’m wrong, can a catholic please correct me, but from my non catholic understanding, Adam & Eve were only able to conceive children AFTER they disobeyed God? Therefore had they not disobeyed God, non of us would be here…including Jesus! I’m slightly concerned that’s a teaching I remember from when I was a Mormon which is why I want someone to clarify.

God very much desires us to do His will and follow His plan, however He gave us free will and we all sin. However He is God after all and he brings good out of evil. He will not judge you for your parents sin, you will be judged for yours (as will we all)

 

[One_point]

OP is wrong on his conclusions. He/she seems like a young person, under 18, probably…understandable.

To OP, there is no accidental child in this world, only accidental parents. There is no human being who exists, has ever existed or will exist in future, who is not in God’s plan. You must have misunderstood the resource you were reading regarding the teaching of the church. Even those other posters who said that had their parents not sinned, they would not exist, are wrong. Read St. Thomas Aquinas. The human race is incomplete without absolutely each and every member who is to exist. The difference between us and angels…each angel is a species unto himself. Each is the full perfection of his being. Why they fell as individuals. Human race…a family. A species that cannot be fully expressed in one individual. The entire race together, with each and every individual, from Adam, to the last human being who will come to exist, only then is the full expression of the term “human”. Perhaps had your parents not sinned, you would have been born in different circumstances than you were born. But that you would exist…there is absolutely no doubt. There is no human who was not from the beginning, even before Adam sinned, MEANT to exist. Even had Adam not sinned, we would all exist. Obviously in different circumstances, but still…we would all be here.

 

[JubileeDeacon]

God truly loves you and calls you to help build the kingdom or you would not exist. You have no say about under what circumstances you were received. Life is God’s gift to you; what you do with it is your gift to God.

 

[PaulGH]

If it were not for sin, the entire history of the world would be different, and who knows if ANY of us would exist.

First, many people came into the world as a direct result of sin, whether IVF, fornication, adultery, or rape. So not only those people themselves, but also all of their descendants, are here only because of someone’s sin.

Second, think of all of the events in history that would have gone differently were it not for sin – all of the people who would not have died in wars, all those who would not have been murdered, and so on. And each changed event would have had effects on other events. For example, maybe a woman’s husband died in war, so she remarried and then had kids. But if the war had never happened (in a sinless version of our world), then she would have stayed with her first husband, and those kids from her second marriage never would have been born, because the second marriage never would have happened. With all of the things that would have changed in history, probably none of us would be here without the cumulative results of sin, adding up over the centuries.

Yet despite all of that, God has known for all time that each of us would be born, and he directly created each of our souls. And he loves each of us equally, and with a love stronger than anything we can imagine.

 

[PaulGH]

I will also mention that I have close family members who were conceived outside of marriage (in other words, conceived through a sinful act). And yet I love them just as much as any other member of my family, and they are just as special in the eyes of God.

 

[Brendan]

I just realized that the Church feels that in-vitro fertilization a sin because a child was brought into the world against God’s plan.

I was born in-vitro.

So by logic, that means that God didn’t intend for me to exist. Right? Otherwise it wouldn’t have been wrong.

He clearly intended for you to exist. Only God can create your soul, and without that soul, you would not have the ability to think, reason, love or even live.

So God created your soul. No one can force God to do anything, ergo He desired that you exist, He desires you to BE.

The means by which you came about were not pleasing to Him, but the fact that you are here shows that God desired that Good (you) come out of that.

 

[chevalier]

I just realized that the Church feels that in-vitro fertilization a sin because a child was brought into the world against God’s plan.

I was born in-vitro.

So by logic, that means that God didn’t intend for me to exist. Right? Otherwise it wouldn’t have been wrong.

Don’t take it that way. People born out of wedlock could ask the same. And their descendants. That’d be quite a lot of people.

Perhaps try to concentrate on life as a gift.

 

[EasterJoy]

Jesus is a descendant of David, who conceived of Solomon with a woman that he had committed the act of adultery with.

Act of adultery? King David had Uriah killed so he could have Bathsheba for himself! That goes “just a bit” beyond simple adultery! Yet Our Lord was not only a descendant of David, but also a descendant of Solomon, born of that union. Obviously not only David who sinned but also Solomon who would not have been born except for the sin were both part of God’s plan.

It has always been God’s plan to transform even our disobedience into an opportunity for grace. No matter what we do, God is there, ready to use the results to accomplish his will.

 

[CAROLOFTHEBELLS]

I guess. But I mean, it just really sucks. I mean, it’s kind of hard to follow God’s plan for me when I didn’t even start on it.

OH JESUS, does that mean my parents are going to Hell for having me? Because I literally don’t know how I could ever deal with that if so.

Jesus died and rose again for our sins. So consider that He did that for your parents.

I think it would be a good idea to talk to your parents about your feelings. There are so many good things being said in this thread and I hope you read them all. After reading them and thinking about it for awhile, talk to your parents. Tell them how much you love them and worry about them.

 

[Vanny]

I was going to bring up the point of Solomon, from whom Jesus decended, but others beat me to it. My own ancestry involves some Mormon polygamists from the 1800’s one of my great (great?) grandparents was the child of a mans second wife- so that whole line that I come from wasn’t God’s will. But God knew us before we were even born.

I also have a dear friend who now lives in another state. Her and her husband are studying the Catholic faith. Both her children were conceived by AR,IVF(she was in her 40’s when she had them) beautiful children who love Jesus.
I was thinking of a pro life leader who was conceived in rape and now speaks out for life.
Of course God doesn’t approve of the act that brought him to be, but he is here and is a precious child of God , and God has a plan for his life, just as He has for yours.
Don’t let Satan keep you from giving your life to Jesus, who loves you and wants you to spend eternity in heaven with Him.

 

[Tom_Baum]

Ah, I see.

Gah, I wish I hadn’t even put two and two together on this one. Now I just feel bad. I mean, think about it, in God’s original plan for the universe, I WASN’T IN IT. I mean, half my DNA was, but not the part of me I got from my mom.

I already have antisocial tendencies and kind of have a problem of not feeling as good as others. The idea that literally I was not supposed to exist in the universe, at least with this combination of genes, REALLY DOES NOT HELP THAT.

I happen to believe that God has had a Plan since before creation and that God Is Omniscient.

How could you have possibly not been in God’s Plan since God is Omniscient?

If you were not in God’s Plan then you would not be.

You were supposed to be exactly who you are.