I wish I could believe

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Going through the stage that you are now, I can tell you what made the difference for me. It was reading the fifth book of the New Testament, Acts. I was familiar with the Gospels already, but Acts rang true for me in a way that at that time the Gospels did not. But because Acts was written by Luke, I started to read Luke’s gospel with fresh eyes.
 
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You seem to be spending a lot of energy on being anxious and terrified.
Yes. The last time I went to the dentist they said my dentition looked like a middle-aged man’s due to all the anxious teeth grinding. I am 24.
 
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I admit, this post was moving.

What’s your view on “scientism”? I think this tends to be my default view of seeing the world. I remember solving equations numerically in college and thinking “neat, not only can I give you a number for heat transfer in this case, but I can also explain the amount of error inherent to this approach”. I like the surety of numbers and repeated confirmation.
 
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Would you suggest any more readings? A problem I come up against often is that every idea has 100 critics. I am not a philosopher so I get lost and need lots of time to get things.

And yes scientism describes my mindset.
 
For me It’s not about having a sky father, but issues such as having a basis for right and wrong that goes beyond mere evolutionary expediency (among other things).
I understand that. I think all non-believers face this issue. The temptation is to become a believer in a semi-religion like a political movement and see it as the source of ‘right and wrong’. My approach is to avoid ‘belief’, that is, anything other than rational conclusion from observation. So how do we decide what is right and wrong? Well, we do what people have always done (we know this from observation) - we decide. We don’t look for spiritual validation of our decisions - we make our own. And we change them if we learn more, or understand more, or new facts emerge.
 
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I’d like to recommend Handbook of Christian Apologetics by Peter Kreeft and Mere Christianity by CS Lewis.

At the very least, these books will demonstrate that the Christian worldview is not unreasonable or irrational.

You might also want to consider getting help for your anxiety, especially if it extends to other areas of your life besides just metaphysical questioning.
 
You can’t always read your way into belief. Some people can, but I think more often than not, someone can always pick up another book to swing them in an opposite direction.

Cynicism and sarcasm are often ways to deflect from something else. My guess is that you don’t feel great about making sarcastic or pessimistic comments.

Your longing is coming from within. Cast those negative responses and feelings out as best you can, and pray for guidance as best you can. I will be praying for you, too.
 
Would you suggest any more readings? A problem I come up against often is that every idea has 100 critics. I am not a philosopher so I get lost and need lots of time to get things.

And yes scientism describes my mindset.
I can’t think of anything that directly touches upon the issue. But I think the main point is that the laws of science don’t preclude or exclude the possibility of a God, or provide proof that God doesn’t exist. They are completely separate issues. “When God wills it, nature’s laws are overcome” - He created them and can suspend them at will.
 
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I find myself in a similar boat to you, except that I do have that “rock” you referred to, its just that it seems everything around me seems to sway me towards unbelief. I think what non-beleivers, or struggling beleivers lack is their own conversion experience, that personal encounter with God, be it subtle or extreme. If you struggle to beleive, I would say, reflect on the 10 commandments and the truth they reveal.

Example: one of the biggest commandments broken nowadays, unfortunately, is “Thou shalt not commit adualtery”. Some may look at that commandment and immediately think “oh, well, i can’t exploit sex for pleasure? Well, maybe i don’t want to obey the law”. But think, God doesnt give us these commands arbitrarily, nor does Jesus elaborate upon these commands without some greater purpose that is for the betterment of humanity. Many forms of adultery exist in the world today, and just digging a little deeper explains why God would command this of us. Obviously, cheating on a spouse is just an awful thing to do, fornication can lead to unplanned pregnancy and therefore a potentially bad upbringing for that child, pornography and masturbation ultimately lead to psychological scarring, including unconscious objectification of other people and yourself leading one to devalue the dignity and humanity of another, and so on.

See what I’m aiming at? It at least makes sense of the truth. Such a truth is hard for some to accept because, perhaps, its a morality beyond the human scope of existence and purpose in life. Otherwise, more might follow it. Through these laws, on a humanly level, love for neighbor is shown by respect for their dignity, and respect for one’s self.

Moreover, when we exercise virtue and look for chances to exercise it, doesnt it seem like things fall into place? For example, I once took a class in networking basics, and one day, we had a lab where we made patch cables by lining up the colored wires with their respective ports on the jack. The class after that lab, one of my peers was absent and had to retake the lab after class. I got up and was about to leave like normal, but something stopped me and said “charity” in my spirit. I thought about leaving, but decided to stay and help him. Turns out he was colorblind, so the lab would’ve been very hard on his own. Its these little situations that, I beleive, God leaves for us so that we can see how He wants us to work in the world. You won’t always have circumstances like this, but be open to it, because its the little things that matter.

I would say, more than anything, try your best to have your heart open to God, because while it may not seem like He’s there, He is. Sometimes we just need to have our own encounters, and that becomes our rock. Mine came at a very low point, but it keeps me from giving up entirely. Yeah, I struggle with faith and believing sometimes, but sometimes just knowing the natural is all we can do. Just know, He is there, and He loves you and sometimes thats all you need to know, or can know.

Just a sidenote, if you are going to research the faith, be careful on youtube 😉
 
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Instead of wishing, maybe pray instead! Good luck on your journey.
 
I get this suggestion often, but I wonder if this just hacks the brain the same way “fake it till you make it” does. I would have been eternally single without that trick lol.

Thank You
It absolutely does. I wouldn’t even call it a hack; it’s just how we work. God knows that, and it’s why He doesn’t expect us to always be happy or always be deep within the swell of belief. Seriously, faith is doing. You got this. 🙂 Also, you’re very welcome.
 
Thank you for coming here & sharing what is probably the main reason for the slow & casual decline in religion (I WISH I COULD BELIEVE) an inspirational snapshot of why humanity may be so antagonistic about the question of god.

Yes I can see your point & totally respect your view of the living condition. Materialism seems to be the main driver of human existence today & to apply raw methodology towards the necessity of living. I know people who see no other reason for being alive other than making money, of course to support your family & to enrich your own life as well as those closest to you.

In regard to balancing life towards your view of right & wrong, simply comes down to your very own reason for being here, your belief & your way of making sense of your own existence. The fact that you “wish you could believe” is a great start on the path to understanding yourself in many more ways than just the materialistic.
 
Just give in. Enjoy all the beauty and love in the Church.
Try it – you’ll like it.
 
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The creation of the universe is history; whatever you or I choose to believe can’t change history. Either at least ‘One God’ created the universe or there is no creator god.

You can be a hundred percent right or wrong on the flip of a coin.

There cannot be a maybe god; or a probable god. The truth of creation exists even for agnostics.
 
No one dies, we just move into another dimension. You need to accept the reality that you are here and you cannot do anything about that. If I feel any fear about being in this life during the day, I just pray the Lord’s Prayer and keep living life to it’s fullest.
 
My approach is to avoid ‘belief’, that is, anything other than rational conclusion from observation. So how do we decide what is right and wrong?

1 cor. 2

My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’power

5 so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power.

There are some church’s that follow saint Paul’s teachings.
Galatians 3

King James Version

3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

The Baptist religion only gets you so far as saint paul said in acts 19

Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” 5 On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

When Paul placed his hands on them )

the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.7 There were about twelve men in all.
 
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I am reasonably sure that we are products of our brains. No brain activity probably means no person. Like sleep without dreams.
 
However there is evidence of consciousness without brain activity, in near death experiences.
 
Well, they are near death experiences. Not death experiences. Many of the commonalities can be attributed to the brain shutting down, such as the tunnel of darkness/light when the portions of the occipital lobe responsible for peripheral vision shut down. Other examples including the absence of language, feeling of floating, etc have similar explanations. Regardless, it is likely that many of them take place as the brain is waking up or shutting down from severe distress, not during the supposedly “brain dead” period.

However there are no studies I’m aware of (would be near impossible to do and widely regarded as unethical) on these events.
 
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