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CreepingDeath
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churches need more black paint
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LilyM
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Given that you’ve described yourself as Christian, I guess that makes you an idiot and a superstitious nut. If you’re NOT Christian then you’re a baldfaced liar. Either way, clearly nothing you say is worth listening to.
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JesusClit
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I’m not baldfaced, I have quite the moustache going for no shave november.
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JesusClit
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Wow guys I am really sorry, my brother went on when I was making some food and commented this nonsense, I apologise.
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LilyM
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Uh huh. And what is with the username ‘JesusClit’? It’s incredibly offensive.
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BlueShadow123
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Lily if you are offended by them then they are doing exactly what they came here to do.
Their mission is accomplished by others freaking out.
Don’t worry, these losers will be gone soon enough.
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LilyM
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Given the porn they’re posting on other threads, yes. I just don’t get the mock-apology though.
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SVP
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Both users “creeping death” and “jesusclit” are probably a pubescent 18 year old who model their lives after Beavis and Butthead with not much of a bright future ahead for them. They are not posting in good faith, regardless of any apologies offered. Both signed up Nov 13 and are probably from the same ISP or likely even the same computer or perhaps are the same person. Add them to the long list of short lived troll accounts at CAF.
As Jesus cast the demons to the swine, so shall these two go.
As Jesus cast the demons to the swine, so shall these two go.
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JesusClit
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Hahahaha… “Not much of a future” Now thats one hundred percent possible. But pretell. What do you do for a living, hmm? 93% of scientists are atheists. Unless you’re one of the retarded seven, hell, even if you ARE one of those seven, your intellectual ability cannot match mine, especially with this whole “Egads, this fellow doubts christ and posted porn, my virgin eyes never seen a nude female before!” **** you got goin on. If you are an adult, start acting like one. Oh and I hate to break it to you but there’s no toothfairy or Santa Claus either.
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yaHalyna
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I am quite confused about some of these posts.
I was born, raised & continue in the UGCC. In our church history book showed an awesome iconastas that was dismantled because the church was being enlarged and the original was too small. That iconastas was given to another church in Pennsylvania,and the one in my church was replaced. Over the years the iconastas deteriorated badly and when my church had its jubilee, a new one (I might say more on the modern style and to me disappointing) was installed. Though it is not awe inspiring as others, it did serve its purpose.
I’m really confused about the comment regarding Bsp Elko of the Ruthenian church. Because while I was growing up he was the bishop in Pittsburgh and he built a church 10 blocks from mine (both with the same name) with such an awesome iconostas that so many years later I took my daughter there so she could do her thesis on Iconography with photos of this iconostas.
My thoughts are this:
First the iconostas has a purpose in the Divine Liturgy and other services. It does not have to elaborate but should have deacon doors and the great doors. When icons are on stands, I would think a true iconostasis is being made in the meantime.
Second is that I think some priests or bishops who are ‘updating’ existing churches are trying to modernized but I truly dont think that is what the congregation really wants. I think deep inside we want the traditional.
Third, There is a dual purpose to the iconostas,not only as an integral part of the service but a means of inspiring the congregation. To bring them up to the next level of spirituality that I’m afraid priests and bishops aren’t considering.
I was born, raised & continue in the UGCC. In our church history book showed an awesome iconastas that was dismantled because the church was being enlarged and the original was too small. That iconastas was given to another church in Pennsylvania,and the one in my church was replaced. Over the years the iconastas deteriorated badly and when my church had its jubilee, a new one (I might say more on the modern style and to me disappointing) was installed. Though it is not awe inspiring as others, it did serve its purpose.
I’m really confused about the comment regarding Bsp Elko of the Ruthenian church. Because while I was growing up he was the bishop in Pittsburgh and he built a church 10 blocks from mine (both with the same name) with such an awesome iconostas that so many years later I took my daughter there so she could do her thesis on Iconography with photos of this iconostas.
My thoughts are this:
First the iconostas has a purpose in the Divine Liturgy and other services. It does not have to elaborate but should have deacon doors and the great doors. When icons are on stands, I would think a true iconostasis is being made in the meantime.
Second is that I think some priests or bishops who are ‘updating’ existing churches are trying to modernized but I truly dont think that is what the congregation really wants. I think deep inside we want the traditional.
Third, There is a dual purpose to the iconostas,not only as an integral part of the service but a means of inspiring the congregation. To bring them up to the next level of spirituality that I’m afraid priests and bishops aren’t considering.
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yaHalyna
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Thanks so much for posting these pictures.
I am Ukrainian and am looking for a picture from my village. Of course, the village is very poor and the iconostas is made up entirely of embroideries made by the women of the village. Once I find it, I’d love to post it.
I quite often attend Sts Cyril in Methodius in Gerard, PA. To me that’s my ‘country/small town’ church. I only wish I could reciprocate by posting the most awesome iconostasis I have ever seen (floor to ceiling like they are supposed to be):
St John the Baptist Ruthenian Catholic Church, 17th & Sarah St, Pittsburgh, PA 15203 ----
Father, if you see this, would you please post a picture
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Aramis
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There is a good one in Sitka; he will do icons for Catholic parishes.
Our new Iconostas: ak-byz-cath.org/Tour%20St%20Nicks.htm
**In Re Bishop Elko: **He only ordered them revoved if the nave or altar was being renovated. I think he intended for icons on stands or to either side of the sanctuary. But his anti-iconostas rule is well documented.
He didn’t complain about Rev. Fr. Michael Artim’s ironwork iconostas. 1" square bars, 6" apart. Later, in the 70’s, we got new Icons on the screen, but the original mosaic icons still hang proudly, written by Rt. Rev Fr Michael in the 60’s. Three: the cross (which bears a Roman-style crucifix in front of a byzantine cross outline mosaic, in the center back of the sanctuary; A theotokion and a pantocrator, on the walls beside the sanctuary. (on the linked page, right bottom image, far R&L icons.)
Bishop Elko had refused to send Icons to St. Nicholas, so Rev. Fr. Michael wrote the ones needed for liturgy… using spare floor tiles, even broken ones and cut bits, donated by local Catholics in the building industry.
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ConstantineTG
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This is the parish I go to, there’s a conference so there’s a speaker. I couldn’t find a better photo
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Alexander_Roman
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Quite amazing pictures, Friends! 
Iconostases should never be optional in any Byzantine/Orthodox Church.
Roman Catholics too had their “Rood Screens” (I think the EWTN chapel has one).
In the Sarum tradition, priests stood under the “Rood” or “Cross” on top of the Royal Doors to distribute Holy Communion, signifying that people communed of the Fruit of the Cross.
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Iconostases should never be optional in any Byzantine/Orthodox Church.
Roman Catholics too had their “Rood Screens” (I think the EWTN chapel has one).
In the Sarum tradition, priests stood under the “Rood” or “Cross” on top of the Royal Doors to distribute Holy Communion, signifying that people communed of the Fruit of the Cross.
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ciero
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What’s with these see thru icon screens? There is a reason icon screens should be solid.
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ConstantineTG
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What is it? (I really don’t know)
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ciero
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The icon screen is there to screen things from our view. Just as God docent reveal everything to us, the icon screen keeps certain mysteries hidden from our view. It’s not just there for the pretty pictures.
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Vico
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Iconostasis at St. Michael’s Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church - Tucson, AZ
St. Gregory Of Nyssa Byzantine Catholic Church, Beltsville, MD
St. Gregory Of Nyssa Byzantine Catholic Church, Beltsville, MD
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Hesychios
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From the website of Annunciation Byzantine Catholic church in Illinois …
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Complete with a candid shot of Father Tom busy with the iconography on the walls.
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Complete with a candid shot of Father Tom busy with the iconography on the walls.
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Hesychios
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I find it interesting to see the Tetrapod in the UGCC.
In all of the ones I have attended (around Chicago) there was no tetrapod in the Ukrianian parishes. It always seemed to be a signature element of the Ruthenian parishes, as far as I can recall.
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