If a modern Marian apparition miracle occurred, would people listen to her?

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I remember hearing and read.ing about the Fatima apparitio.ns in school. The priests I knew took them very seriously, especially the warnings to repent and pray. I thought it would be a good idea to pray the rosary daily to avoid chastisement. But I didn’t do it. Now people seem to have totally forgotten Fatima.

Now, I read about the Marian apparations at Akita, Japan, including even more serious warnings of coming chastisement if people do not repent. The apparation was approved by the local bishop. But still the warnings are ignored.

I think maybe we are like the people of Sodom, ignoring God’s laws and happily content with our lives until it is too late.
 
As far as I know, the local bishop has never approved the Medjugorje apparitions.
 
There are several ongoing miracles: the miracle of Lanciano, the tilma of the Virgin of Guadalupe, the image of the lady of Las Lajas, miracles at Lourdes, the bodies of the incorruptibles.
Many people investigate these events, and sceptics often become believers.
 
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As far as I know, the local bishop has never approved the Medjugorje apparitions
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That is correct… and I believe that pilgrimages are now allowed, but that taking for granted that the apparitions were/are real remains forbidden

For the record, I’m a little leery of situations where people put excess emphasis on the private revelation. Too often in my experience, people talk about things like Lourdes or Fatima as I they are truths of the faith rather than what they are. I have been and have seen people pressured to believe in these things. Truth is that one can be a perfectly good Catholic and not pay attention to private revelations like Marian apparitions.
 
I would listen to our Holy Church and see what She has to say.

An example is this: A Korean “visionary” claimed to have a statue of Mary who was shedding blood from the eyes. So this person started spreading rumours and performed “miracles”. This so-claimed visionary also had marks on her skin and the Host turning to flesh on her tongue. However, the Church proclaimed that these claimed miracles and the statue as false and not supernatural. The visionary and her team still claim that the statue sheds blood and they even worship Mary…
 
Has He? How do we judge good, anyway? How do we know that a lot of ‘bad’ isn’t coming along there as well?

How do we know that the spirit of disobedience is cloaking itself with superficial, “I prayed more once I went” (but to whom?); I’m a better person, etc.

I’m not judging, I’m just saying that one has to look at ALL the fruits. The end doesn’t justify the means. If one ‘gets’ somebody praying more rosaries, but doing so in defiance, like, “I don’t care what some BISHOP says, I will do as I please”. . . just doesn’t seem right to me.
 
The Vatican has already said that people are allowed to make pilgrimages there. That’s not up for debate.

I would suggest that you read the statements of Monsignor Henryk Hoser, Archbishop Emeritus of Warsaw-Prague, on the matter. He is the Apostolic Visitor sent by Pope Francis himself to Medjugorje.
 
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An example is this: A Korean “visionary” claimed to have a statue of Mary who was shedding blood from the eyes. So this person started spreading rumours and performed “miracles”. This so-claimed visionary also had marks on her skin and the Host turning to flesh on her tongue. However, the Church proclaimed that these claimed miracles and the statue as false and not supernatural. The visionary and her team still claim that the statue sheds blood and they even worship Mary…
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Are these the “God the Father and God the Mother” people? Had one of their missionaries approach me recently. Loonies.
 
What makes you think I haven’t read them?

And I never said anything about pilgrimages.
 
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How about the currently weeping icons and statues of the Virgin Mary
 
Where? That phenomena has been reported in more than one place and isn’t necessarily supernatural.
 
The last Catholic approved is Akita. There is an Eastern Church icon weeping myrrh in PA , USA. Its been doing so for the past 3 years. People visit it in its Church. There is one in Hawaii too.
 
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Let’s say that on October 13th of this year a miracle performed by Mary was performed, I don’t know, in a farming town in Missouri, in front of several people, and captured on video, and she told us to pray the rosary and do penance to avoid WW3, do you think people would follow her directions, or would we faithlessly ignore her?
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I have wondered what would happen if Our Lady appeared in a time and place where people were already assembled (maybe the Super Bowl or the World Cup?), said what people need to hear, and were recorded by thousands of people wielding smartphones as well as TV cameras. “Going viral” would be a drastic understatement.

Perhaps something like this will happen in the very last days.
 
I just don’t understand why the Church would approve a miracle then not require people to believe it. “It’s real, Mary said this, we checked, but no worries it’s not important that you believe what she said”
 
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