If Abortion isn't a CRIME, what is it?

[PJM]

Abortion is an unspeakable crime. It is the killing of the most defenseless and innocent persons of society. The direct and deliberate killing or murder of any innocent person is a grave or mortal sin, a grave or deadly crime.

AMEN!

 

[Della]

I’m only commenting on legality, not expressing a personal opinion.

Many people think capital punishment is intrinsically evil, opinions vary on what is moral

And many people are wrong, too. This is why we look to the Church to decide such matters and not to our own ideas, yes?

 

[Theo520]

So its not murder?

The three examples you share; are you impying that like THEM, Abortion is OK because it too is leagealized

GBY

By definition, it’s not murder.

Murder: the **unlawful **premeditated killing of one human being by another.

Saying something is immoral and should be murder seems the appropriate response, better than abusing words.

 

[Sarcelle]

Does abortion meet the criteria for murder in the first degree?

It is willful and premeditated and can be eligible for capital punishment. In some states it can merit the death sentence.

Some Christians including some Catholics I know recommend the death sentence for abortion.

Disclaimer: I do not hold this view as I am against the death sentence.

 

[Theo520]

Does abortion meet the criteria for murder in the first degree?

It is willful and premeditated and can be eligible for capital punishment. In some states it can merit the death sentence.

Some Christians including some Catholics I know recommend the death sentence for abortion.

Disclaimer: I do not hold this view as I am against the death sentence.

Capital Punishment would also meet the criteria for murder in the first degree.

Same if you’ve been robbed before and keep a shotgun by your bed.

 

[Della]

By definition, it’s not murder.

Merely according to flawed human “law” which ignores natural law. This is the sad result of many in government and the judiciary denying the existence of/our need to abide by natural law.

Murder is the unlawful killing of another person/persons–unlawful in the natural law sense of the word, as set forth in the Ten Commandments. Killing in self-defense, in war, and of criminals are lawful (with certain restrictions) in natural law. It is never lawful to directly abort the life of a living human being.

Saying something is immoral and should be murder seems the appropriate response, better than abusing words.

Certainly it is immoral, but it’s also unlawful, as defined above. Men may violate the natural law, but it doesn’t change the fact that doing so is unlawful.

This definition is important because denying it opens the door for men to violate it as they please, which we are seeing in our times. It is the rejection of Judaic-Christian principles which built Western culture and Western law, and which has informed it for centuries, although the principles are eternal, not merely temporal.

 

[goout]

Capital Punishment would also meet the criteria for murder in the first degree.

Same if you’ve been robbed before and keep a shotgun by your bed.

How so?
One is the taking of life for remedial and/or punitive purposes (I think with the Catholic Church on capital punishment, that it is very rarely if ever justified and moral.)

The other is the taking of innocent life.

Innocence is a key concept here which you are missing.

 

[PJM]

By definition, it’s not murder.

Saying something is immoral and should be murder seems the appropriate response, better than abusing words.

So your saying abotion is NOT murder; exactly how does that work?

GBY