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oldcelt
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I highly doubt that the creator is concerned with the day-to-day affairs of one small planet in an infinity(for practical purposes) of other worlds. It creates because that is its nature.
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oldcelt
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To us? Probably only our existence. To the creator, creation…from which we developed…intended (which I view as highly unlikely) or not.What is superior to morality?
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DCNBILL
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Hi John,To us? Probably only our existence. To the creator, creation…from which we developed…intended (which I view as highly unlikely) or not.
Do Deists believe in something akin to the Devil, something as an evil counterpart to the Creator?
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oldcelt
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I feel confident that some do. As for myself, no. In my view, the evil of this world is solely our creation.Hi John,
Do Deists believe in something akin to the Devil, something as an evil counterpart to the Creator?
John
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DCNBILL
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Thanks, I will do a bit of research.I feel confident that some do. As for myself, no. In my view, the evil of this world is solely our creation.
John
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oldcelt
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My pleasure…be well.Thanks, I will do a bit of research.
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PRmerger
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How is it that we created a tsunami?I feel confident that some do. As for myself, no. In my view, the evil of this world is solely our creation.
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oldcelt
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We didn’t. That is a natural event contingent on certain conditions within the earth’s crust. It is neither evil or good…it simply is part of life in certain areas. We cannot control such events. We can learn from them and use our rational mind to get people out of harm’s way, or other actions that might reduce the impact of such natural events.How is it that we created a tsunami?
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PRmerger
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So it is not evil that a baby was swept away from his mother’s arms in the midst of this tsumani?We didn’t. That is a natural event contingent on certain conditions within the earth’s crust. It is neither evil or good…it simply is part of life in certain areas. We cannot control such events. We can learn from them and use our rational mind to get people out of harm’s way, or other actions that might reduce the impact of such natural events.
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oldcelt
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It is tragic, sad, and all other descriptions, but it is not evil because no malice or forethought on the part of any higher being is involved.So it is not evil that a baby was swept away from his mother’s arms in the midst of this tsumani?
If a human had swept that child from its mother’s arms and murdered it…that would be evil.
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PRmerger
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And what is your explanation to this mom? God didn’t do it? God doesn’t care about it? God can’t make good come from this evil?It is tragic, sad, and all other descriptions, but it is not evil because no malice or forethought on the part of any higher being is involved.
If a human had swept that child from its mother’s arms and murdered it…that would be evil.
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oldcelt
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I would probably word it more gently, but you have captured the essence.And what is your explanation to this mom? God didn’t do it? God doesn’t care about it? God can’t make good come from this evil?
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PRmerger
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Wow.I would probably word it more gently, but you have captured the essence.
How hopeless a world view you have.
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oldcelt
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There is where we differ. My world view places many things in our control. How we handle them is the question, regardless of the nature of one’s creator. I have seen no evidence of any supernatural intervention in any natural occurrence, for better or worse. I see it even less-so in the doings of humanity.Wow.
How hopeless a world view you have.
I find this to be freeing. To know in my deepest conviction that I and we control our own fate (or lack thereof). That we need not wait on the intervention of an unseen force to make things right.
We are on our own…and I find that pleasing.
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tonyrey
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so you believe the Creator is amoral and didn’t intend us to exist?What is superior to morality?
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oldcelt
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I believe that morality is a human construct and that the creator did not/does not plan every aspect of creation…us among those.so you believe the Creator is amoral and didn’t intend us to exist?
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PRmerger
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What does that mean?I believe that morality is a human construct
Is morality simply what we decide? More like a preference? “We prefer to not commit adultery, but it’s not an objectively wrong thing to do!” Like that?
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oldcelt
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Morality has been established largely based on the common good. It is an ever evolving facet of human existence. Things that were once viewed as moral necessities, such as burning witches, have long since passed in most cultures.What does that mean?
Is morality simply what we decide? More like a preference? “We prefer to not commit adultery, but it’s not an objectively wrong thing to do!” Like that?
Objective right or wrong is the precinct of those who believe that morality is a God-given set of absolutes.
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PRmerger
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So you are saying that it was indeed moral to burn witches, but it is now not moral?Morality has been established largely based on the common good. It is an ever evolving facet of human existence. Things that were once viewed as moral necessities, such as burning witches, have long since passed in most cultures.
Objective right or wrong is the precinct of those who believe that morality is a God-given set of absolutes.
Or are you saying that it was always immoral to burn witches, even if some people thought it was the right thing to do?
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oldcelt
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It was always immoral and based on superstition. We evolved beyond that as a species…for the most part.So you are saying that it was indeed moral to burn witches, but it is now not moral?
Or are you saying that it was always immoral to burn witches, even if some people thought it was the right thing to do?
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