If I have a pet in a Condo that has a no pet rule is that mortal or venial sin?

[Young_Thinker]

No - You’re supposed to find an apartment that allows pets, rather than lying to get into a place that does not.

I would generally agree. However, I was emphasizing relatively severe situations. Finding an ideal appartment is certainly not always possible.

 

[Young_Thinker]

ONLY if you say that you will agree to do so.

If you say it, then do it. If you don’t say it, no one will expect you to.

Very funny. Again, I was placing an emphasis upon difficult circumstances where it is not possibly to display perfect honesty or obedience.

 

[Young_Thinker]

Offering the best is the hint I will give. What is the best you can offer a guest Young Thinker?

And, I appreciate you as well. I appreciate your taking the time to carefully think about things.

Thank you. You offer a guest whatever you can, but it should not entail something like unreasonable sacrifice upon your part. As a side-note, I miss your previous signature!

 

[Catholic90]

Thank you for the insults; I did not think that I was going around questioning anyone’s maturity or intelligence. However, I was talking about ignorance of your guest’s allergy. Adverse reactions to nuts seem to be common, and you could, for example, always make a second batch of brownies that do not have any nuts. However, some allergies are rarer than others, and, if you are not the sufferer, you probably would even think about them when cooking or doing anything else.

Again, you miss some of the points…

there is no ignorance of the rules…the renter KNOWS the rule - no pets.
(You know your guest has a nut allergy). The renter is going to bring the cat anyway (You are going to serve the nuts anyway). I pointed out the renter should ask the landlord if it would be OK. (You should ask your guest if it is OK s/he can have nuts, giving him/her the opportunity to tell you s/he cannot eat them OR these nuts are OK, it is just THOSE nuts s/he is allergic to).

My comment to stay in school was to point out you need to develop your thinking process…you are indeed a “young thinker” - inexperienced, not thought through, and well…you get the idea. Keep working on it!

 

[ElizabethPH]

Young thinker…you sound quite young and inexperienced.

Your lactose analogy was quite wrong.
Using YOUR thought process, you would choose to serve food with finely ground nuts to a guest in your home who had a nut allergy, because you do not believe in being told what to do by others. You feel it is silly your guest has an allergy, you like the flavor of nuts, darn it, and you are going to serve them anyway, because you want them. Meanwhile, you COULD have asked your guest if it was OK if they eat nuts, but that was just too darn inconvenient for you.

Stay in school.

As far as nut allergies I would say that if someone was allergic to nuts and were invited for dinner at someones house they need to let the host know about the allergy before hand. I don’t think it is the host’s responsibility to asked his guest what they are allergic too. Or is it the trend now days to include in the invitation ‘if anyone is allergic to shellfish, nuts, or has any other allergies let me know along with your RSVP’.

 

[Young_Thinker]

As far as nut allergies I would say that if someone was allergic to nuts and were invited for dinner at someones house they need to let the host know about the allergy before hand. I don’t think it is the host’s responsibility to asked his guest what they are allergic too. Or is it the trend now days to include in the invitation ‘if anyone is allergic to shellfish, nuts, or has any other allergies let me know along with your RSVP’.

I agree. However, if shellfish was going to be served, I would be tempted to be feign an allergy! Fortunately, Jews and Muslims do not have to pretend when it comes to food.

 

[Young_Thinker]

Again, you miss some of the points…

there is no ignorance of the rules…the renter KNOWS the rule - no pets.
(You know your guest has a nut allergy). The renter is going to bring the cat anyway (You are going to serve the nuts anyway). I pointed out the renter should ask the landlord if it would be OK. (You should ask your guest if it is OK s/he can have nuts, giving him/her the opportunity to tell you s/he cannot eat them OR these nuts are OK, it is just THOSE nuts s/he is allergic to).

My comment to stay in school was to point out you need to develop your thinking process…you are indeed a “young thinker” - inexperienced, not thought through, and well…you get the idea. Keep working on it!

Thank you; I can be very stubborn sometimes. As for this analogy concerning allergies, I was talking about safety, not someone’s(i.e. the landlord’s) pet-peeves. Maybe I am drifting a little from the original story. But I agree that one should be forthright with others when it is possible, though that it is not always the case.

 

[Apryl]

Very funny. Again, I was placing an emphasis upon difficult circumstances where it is not possibly to display perfect honesty or obedience.

Funny? What was funny?

I realize that I can be quite witty… but that didn’t strike me as one of those times.

This thread is being extended because you are arguing something that’s not going on here.

That’s like discussing Pee Wee Football rules when deciding Heisman Trophy Awardees.

 

[Apryl]

Thank you; I can be very stubborn sometimes. As for this analogy concerning allergies, I was talking about safety, not someone’s(i.e. the landlord’s) pet-peeves. Maybe I am drifting a little from the original story. But I agree that one should be forthright with others when it is possible, though that it is not always the case.

So your reaction to this whole thread is that your objection to this rule is an ASSUMPTION that the Landlord has a No-Pet policy must be based on a simple pet-peeve. Some people do have problems with pets. Not always related to allergies, too.

 

[Young_Thinker]

So your reaction to this whole thread is that your objection to this rule is an ASSUMPTION that the Landlord has a No-Pet policy must be based on a simple pet-peeve. Some people do have problems with pets. Not always related to allergies, too.

No, it is just an example. I am not making any assumptions; I merely speaking hypothetically.

 

[jmcrae]

Thanks for all your answers so far, but I wasnt asking if you thought I should do it or not, I was asking if the violation in itself warrants me the need to go to confession. BTW-we live in a resort town so there are not many residents, mostly vacationers that all come and go

If you inadvertently kill or hospitalize someone who has a pet allergy, it’s a venial sin - but surely you don’t want to do that, do you?

Also, pet owners tend to get used to the smell of their pets, so they often don’t notice what is terribly obvious to others, even just out in the hallway, outside the door - animals often stink, especially if they have no opportunity to go outside and air themselves out.

 

[Young_Thinker]

Funny? What was funny?

I realize that I can be quite witty… but that didn’t strike me as one of those times.

This thread is being extended because you are arguing something that’s not going on here.

That’s like discussing Pee Wee Football rules when deciding Heisman Trophy Awardees.

I am sorry for being sarcastic. I was trying to make an argument for a general situation, not one with any particulars. Some of the things that I said were not indicated before, but I feel that they are still relevant to this discussion.

 

[Miriam1947]

Well this has gone on a whole lot longer than I would have expected the question to justify.

Now that the same questions and answers have been posted, and re-posted, and posted yet again, I’ll be un-subscribing now.

 

[Barbkw]

Thanks for all your answers so far, but I wasnt asking if you thought I should do it or not, I was asking if the violation in itself warrants me the need to go to confession. BTW-we live in a resort town so there are not many residents, mostly vacationers that all come and go

What is your intent - to confess the same sin each week and do nothing about the cat?

 

[LilyM]

Thank you for the insults; I did not think that I was going around questioning anyone’s maturity or intelligence. However, I was talking about ignorance of your guest’s allergy. Adverse reactions to nuts seem to be common, and you could, for example, always make a second batch of brownies that do not have any nuts. However, some allergies are rarer than others, and, if you are not the sufferer, you probably would even think about them when cooking or doing anything else.

Pet allergies are incredibly common, though, I’d venture they’re almost as common as nut allergies.

Besides which, this is not a situation where the OP is unaware or ‘not thinking’ that someone else might have problems with the pets. The no-pets clause in the lease is there precisely to make the OP very aware of, and think about, the fact that other residents might have problems with animals. The OP cannot plead ignorance, that’s for sure.

Whatever the nature of those problems might be, it’s not the OP’s place to ignore them and keep a pet any more than it’s your place to ignore your nut-allergic guest’s request agnd go ahead and serve nuts.

 

[Young_Thinker]

Pet allergies are incredibly common, though, I’d venture they’re almost as common as nut allergies.

Besides which, this is not a situation where the OP is unaware or ‘not thinking’ that someone else might have problems with the pets. The no-pets clause in the lease is there precisely to make the OP very aware of, and think about, the fact that other residents might have problems with animals. The OP cannot plead ignorance, that’s for sure.

Whatever the nature of those problems might be, it’s not the OP’s place to ignore them and keep a pet any more than it’s your place to ignore your nut-allergic guest’s request agnd go ahead and serve nuts.

If you say so.