If it was found to be true that we have had past lives, would this affect the Catholic Faith?

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Then you’re misunderstanding what we’re saying.

Reincarnation isn’t absurd only because God revealed that it’s false, it’s absurd because of the very nature of what a human being is. Reincarnation would be demonstrably absurd even without faith.
 
Actually, the “logic” is that either people are bodies and souls, who die and have a final fate, or they don’t actually count as having died – they would just be spirits without any native body, who have “death” periods as part of their lifecycle, and who possess various sorts of biological creatures.

Also, it would mean that you never actually get to heaven, the material world logically would have no end, etc.

Reincarnation is basically a way to deny normal beings the chance to achieve any sort of eternal happiness and perfect virtue. St. Irenaeus goes into detail about it; but yeah, it’s basically one more serving of Gnostic “Matter is yucky and would contaminate God, so how dare anyone get into personal contact with the perfectness of God.” It also denies people any kind of permanent moral decision; any differentiation from other individual beings; any specialness for human beings that sets them above the animals, plants, or even rocks; and so on.

The ancient world had an obsession with claiming that the entire world would constantly be destroyed and recreated – ie, recreated exactly the same, every time, with every critter exactly the same, and making exactly the same decisions. Reincarnation of individuals was the home game version of this “Great Cycle” idea. And again, it basically leads to the idea that you can do whatever you want, because ultimately it’s not your fault and nothing matters.

So yes, reincarnation is utterly the opposite of Christianity.

The world was created once by God. The world will end at a time of God’s choosing.

We all have one life each. What we do matters. It matters so much that God came into our world as true man and true God, to suffer and be resurrected once only, to redeem the sins of Adam, Eve, and the rest of us.

But our freewill matters so much that each of us can choose to refuse God’s gift of His life. Forever.
 
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The problem I see in your posts is that you are depreciating “Catholic faith,” as in “only in the context of the Catholic faith.” But the Catholic faith is not arbitrary, it has a tradition – more so than any other religion, I would say – of self-critical inquiry: great moral, philosophical, theological thinkers have created tomes of reasoning that intellectually reinforce the integrity and unity of doctrine.

A la The Matrix or Avatar, it’s fun and easy to speculate that humans are like hardware and the soul is like software: why can’t a different soul run on a different body? Because our reasoned understanding of the human person/condition breaks down. And when I say it breaks down, I mean adherence to this belief (heresy really) introduces all manner of nonsensical iniquity and decadence.

Prof. Robert George spells this out more in this very interesting address:

 
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But our understanding about the very nature of what human is, is faith based.
 
Your post contains a lot of presumptions and a strawman version of reincarnation. I wont get into it because I am not that interested in the subject. But I can say that many who believe in it see it very differently than as you present it.
 
I dont depreciate Catholic teaching. I simply acknowledge that those of other faith are not all illogical, nonsensical nor decadent.
 
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I simply acknowledge that those of other faith are not all illogical, nonsensical nor decadent.
Well, yeah, insofar as they coincide with (or are not contrary to) Catholic teaching, right? Per CCC 819:
Christ’s Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church.
 
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If it was found to be true that we have had past lives, would this affect the Catholic Faith?
There is no reincarnation. That is an infallible teaching of the Church which has the full authority of God behind the teachings. If he did allow it then he would have lied when he said what is bound on earth is bound in Heaven and God cannot lie.
 
After reading the thread, to answer the OP. It would mean that the Church didn’t teach Jesus who is Truth. Or, that Jesus isn’t Truth. If Jesus reincarnated, the cross was for nothing and the Resurrection didn’t happen.
 
That is because a human person is both a soul and a body, and the two of them are intrinsically linked.
You mean that God intended that our particular individual physical forms in this life is just as intrinsic to our personal eternal destiny as our souls. If this is actual church teaching then i accept that it is not possible to migrate a soul to a new biological body without destroying the personal identity that came before it since that particular physical form was intrinsic to our personal identity…

If that is the case then i stand corrected.
 
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But our understanding about the very nature of what human is, is faith based.
No, it isn’t. The Church’s understanding of philosophy of nature largely comes from Aristotle, who lived centuries before Christ. The Church accepts Aristotle’s philosophy of nature because it is true, it’s not true because the Church accepts it.

And Aristotle didn’t exist in a vacuum either. His metaphysics was formulated precisely in response to that of Plato, who held that the soul was simply the body’s motor, and consequently could migrate between bodies. The Catholic faith confirms that reincarnation is impossible, but it isn’t necessary to prove that fact.
You mean that God intended that our particular individual physical forms in this life is just as intrinsic to our personal eternal destiny as our souls.
Yes. Matter is the irreducible principle of individuation, which is why there can be multiple members of the human species (or of an animal species), but why each angel is its own species.
 
Jesus already taught this didn’t he.
He himself said John the Baptist was Elijah come again.
 
“Logically impossible” only to reconcile with Catholic teaching, most of which is based on faith. It is not logically impossible for millions of Buddhists, Hindus, and others who hold a different view of how we are judged and how our bodies and souls relate.
Since those “different views” are not the truth, I see no point in what you said.

There is only one God. There will be only one Final Judgement. And there is only one truth with regard to the human person: a union of one body and one soul, which are forever paired to each other.
 
Jesus already taught this didn’t he.
He himself said John the Baptist was Elijah come again.
He did not mean reincarnation.

If you want a fuller explanation, I would suggest starting a thread in the “Sacred Scripture” forum.
 
There is an important distinction to be made though. Some ideas are logically coherent, and thus theoretically possible in the abstract, but we happen to know from Revelation that they are false (polygenism for example). Reincarnation, on the other hand, is opposed even to natural reason.

Truth is one, but there’s still value in distinguishing between truths that are objects of faith alone, versus truths that are objects of both faith and reason.
 
Honestly, it was just a tease, lets not take ourselves too seriously.
Can anyone believe the Elija prophecy means he will bodily come again or that he is in heaven body and soul. We all know that’s a story.
For if that were true then rebirth may as well be considered true.
 
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Can anyone believe the Elija prophecy means he will bodily come again or that he is in heaven body and soul. We all know that’s a story.
For if that were true then rebirth may as well be considered true.
Can anyone believe that the path of light can be bent around stars or massive objects? We all know that’s a story.
For if that were true then “everything is an illusion” may as well be considered true.
 
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