"If" Jesus had blood brothers & sisters, then...

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According to Catholic tradition, John could have been her nephew, correct?
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You are misrepresenting the facts. This is one man’s opinion - not “Catholic Tradition”. This kind of tactic is typical of those who seek to “disprove” the Catholic position.

John was the son of Zebedee, as was James. The other James - the son of Alphaeus/Clopas (Matt. 10:3, John 19:25), is the one that most people try to identify as tthe “brother” (adelphos) of Jesus. **
You’re barking up the wrong tree . . .
 
And not to mention how inappropriate it would have been to leave Mary with John if he did have blood brother or sisters…
 
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So it is probable that Mary went to live with her nephew and her sister. Quite consistent with Jewish tradition it seems.
I am not sure who to answer know. I believe I have stated my view. If there are any specific follow ups I will address them.
 
True. Nonsequitor, and irrelevant, but true enough.

How so?

And remember, when you say “what we know from Scripture” you are acknowledging the authority of this Catholic Church which you say cannot be proven to have existed from the time of the Apostles.
No, not at all. But the topic of this thread is not the canon so I cannot really participate in that.
 
Sorry, been there, done that, got the T-shirt to prove it. Any scripture to support your assertion?
It depends on where you get the tee shirt from, a store that sells perfect goods or the outlet store for the flawed and irregular rejects. 😃
 
No, not at all. But the topic of this thread is not the canon so I cannot really participate in that.
If you are a Christian who examines his faith–and I am certain that you are–then you must ponder this. You need not address it in this thread, but the obligation to consider this fact remains:

You would not know what is Scripture except for the authority of the Catholic Church.
 
There is not a scripture or verse stating the parents of the brothers of Jesus. That is one of the reasons it is controversial. Bart Ehrman to Catholic traditionalists have a range of views. I happen to fall on the most likely person, Joseph. But we digress…
Controversial? Controversial for Fundamentalist,but I do not see the adamant belief by the ECF’s and early church Mary definitely had other children.
 
If you are a Christian who examines his faith–and I am certain that you are–then you must ponder this. You need not address it in this thread, but the obligation to consider this fact remains:

You would not know what is Scripture except for the authority of the Catholic Church.
Despite the fact that Protestants, Eastern Orthodox, and Oriental Orthodox have a different canon? The only group influenced by the authority of the Catholic Church is…the Catholic Church. So yes, I have pondered it
 
Despite the fact that Protestants, Eastern Orthodox, and Oriental Orthodox have a different canon? The only group influenced by the authority of the Catholic Church is…the Catholic Church. So yes, I have pondered it
Do Eastern Orthodox churches really not include the Deuterocanonicals in their scripture? I was under the impression that Catholics and Orthodox both included them. 🤷
 
Despite the fact that Protestants, Eastern Orthodox, and Oriental Orthodox have a different canon? The only group influenced by the authority of the Catholic Church is…the Catholic Church. So yes, I have pondered it
What Churches have a different New Testament canon? All those with the same New Testament canon as defined by the Catholic Church would seem to be influenced by the Catholic Church. :rolleyes:
 
Controversial? Controversial for Fundamentalist,but I do not see the adamant belief by the ECF’s and early church Mary definitely had other children.
Starting about 100 years after His family was alive, different traditions developed (the earliest tradition being they were half brothers) in an attempt to maintain a belief about Mary that we do not believe the Bible teaches. But people began to place more emphasis on her so these legends are a logical outcome of that.
However, they conflict. The beliefs they were cousins is later than the belief developed by the anonymous writer of the Protoevangelium.
 
What Churches have a different New Testament canon? All those with the same New Testament canon as defined by the Catholic Church would seem to be influenced by the Catholic Church. :rolleyes:
None. However as you are well aware the earliest Christians who recognized scriptures we believe possessed the same doctrine as the Apostles themselves. Those beliefs are found in scripture. We share the beliefs of those in scripture. So, no, we do not give credit to a church that developed doctrinally we believe from its origins. I understand you disagree but am merely stating our view. Thank you.
 
None. However as you are well aware the earliest Christians who recognized scriptures we believe possessed the same doctrine as the Apostles themselves. Those beliefs are found in scripture. We share the beliefs of those in scripture. So, no, we do not give credit to a church that developed doctrinally we believe from its origins. I understand you disagree but am merely stating our view. Thank you.
Wasn’t it hard for the ‘earliest Christians’ to recognize all the scriptures of the New Testament, being they consisted of letters and epistles scattered throughout Asia? We have Christian writings that seem to agree with Catholic teachings prior to those letters and epistles being copied, brought together and defined as part of the New Testament canon.

As you say, I understand you disagree but am merely stating ‘historical evidence’. 😛
 
None. However as you are well aware the earliest Christians who recognized scriptures we believe possessed the same doctrine as the Apostles themselves. Those beliefs are found in scripture. We share the beliefs of those in scripture. So, no, we do not give credit to a church that developed doctrinally we believe from its origins. I understand you disagree but am merely stating our view. Thank you.
Please share with us those writings of the earliest Christians that are opposite of Catholic teachings. Stay on topic if you wish and produce those writings stating that Mary definitely had other children…
 
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