If Lutherans and Catholics rejoin ranks ....

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1AugustSon7 said:
Which, of course, is a theological dictation on doctrine that you have decided on and are claiming as absolutely true and, so, should be affirmed as true by others: see Dogma.

But I guess that’s only wrong if you also happen to be a bureaucrat, which is the only difference between what you have decried and what you, yourself, are actually doing.
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I’m making the decisions myself based on available scripture and other ancient texts which many are not acceptable reading for Catholics. I’m not allowing a hierarchical leadership to dictate what I consider could be valid scripture, interesting church history or just an ancient text hoax.
 
Unless you excommunicate the entire ELCA, then it won’t be possible.
 
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Luth123:
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I think God cares about this.

God cares what’s in your heart no what theological bureaucrats decide on doctrine they dictate to others.
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I am sure God can care less what’s in your heart. He cares about what you do as a result of what is in your heart. Remember what Christ said about the lukewarm…

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VanSensei said:
Unless you excommunicate the entire ELCA, then it won’t be possible.
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It seems to be a case by case evaluation would be more appropriate. There are vast numbers of ELCA members who are orthodox, confessional Lutherans, and to their credit, they choose to stay in the ELCA to try to return it to orthodoxy.

Jon
 
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I’m making the decisions myself based on available scripture and other ancient texts
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which of these text say that all that matters is in one’s heart?

this sort of obstinate thinking gets you now where…take it from one who knows.

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pablope said:
Okay then…could you cite the church law that says if one read the gnostic writings…that one is excommunicated just for reading it?
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I’m not ever going to claim I know or understand man made Catholic laws. I do know history backs me up that Gnostics even in the very early church (2nd century) were excommunicated as heretics and their Gnostic writing were banned and even burned.

Gnostics elevated the personal relationship with Jesus and God and downplayed any role of the physical church. They make a very compelling argument which is why Gnostics were excommunicated and their books banned and burned.

Bring a copy of one of these early texts to a Catholic Bible Study to discuss and get the priest’s reaction. It isn’t pretty I can tell you from experience.

I don’t have time to go through the list of notable people excommunicated. You are welcomed to start going through the list. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_excommunicated_by_the_Roman_Catholic_Church Valentinus is the most well known of the Gnostics.
 
JonNC said:
I thought that’s what you meant the first time - Lutherans receiving at a Catholic Eucharist.
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Yeah … I initially said, They’re not suppose to do that, in regard to Catholics receiving communion in Lutheran churches. Then, after reading your next post, I realized that EvangelCatholic had mentioned communing in Roman Catholic churches.
 
JonNC said:
It seems to be a case by case evaluation would be more appropriate. There are vast numbers of ELCA members who are orthodox, confessional Lutherans, and to their credit, they choose to stay in the ELCA to try to return it to orthodoxy.

Jon
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Yes, but I mean because of what they do: ordain women, gay marriage, etc. On a Catholic level, that’s beyond reprehensible. Churches don’t normally go back and rescind practices they adopt.
 
VanSensei said:
Yes, but I mean because of what they do: ordain women, gay marriage, etc. On a Catholic level, that’s beyond reprehensible. Churches don’t normally go back and rescind practices they adopt.
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Exactly. Hopefully they wiill rescind some adopted practices but it certainly is by no means the norm. It might be more likely a break off synod with some practices not adopted,
such as gay marriage and keeping some like women ordination

I know many ELCA members and they have no issues on a theological level with women Clergy being ordained. That’s here to stay in that synod.
 
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