Per the Bible, All men, women and children have been predestined from before creation for eternal life. ALL men, thats in the bible.
**All does not mean every man, woman, child that ever lived.
I’m going to use the English translation from the original Greek text. Available at:
scripture4all.org/
1 Tim 2:1-4
I exhort therefore, that, first of ALL, supplications, prayers, intercessions, (and) giving of thanks, be made for ALL men;
For kings, and {for} ALL that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in ALL godliness and honesty.
For this {is} good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior:
Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
Using a parsing guide:
1st All: Genitive, Plural, Neuter Gender
2nd All: Genitive, Plural, Masc. Gender
3rd All: Genitive, Plural, Masc. Gender
4th All: Dative, Singular, Fem. Gender
5th All: Accusative, Plural, Masc. Gender
Neuter Gender:
Neither masculine nor feminine in gender.
Genitive Case:
Of, relating to, or being the grammatical case expressing possession, measurement, or source.
Dative Case:
Of, relating to, or being the grammatical case that marks the recipient of action, that often indicates the indirect object of the verb, and that can be used with prepositions or other function words corresponding in meaning to English to and for.
Accusative Case:
Of, relating to, or being the grammatical case that is the direct object of a verb or the object of certain prepositions.
Within these four verses, there are four different Greek words that have been ambiguously translated into the English word ‘all’.
:juggle: How are you going to make sense of that?
Let’s look at Romans 4:16 - For this reason {it is} by faith, in order that {it may be} in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all,
Those of the Law = Jews by birthright.
Paul is now proclaiming that the ‘all’ is extended to those that of the faith of Abraham, who were the gentiles. It is this very point that separates Jews from Christians today.**
God said, if you follow him, you are in the light, and you may have eternal life. In other words, if you follow him, you will be destined to eternal life.
**Mt 4:19 - And (Jesus) *said to them, “Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
Jesus was not asking Simon Peter and his brother Andrew, ‘would you like to accept me as your personal savior?’. He was commanding them 'FOLLOW ME!" **
what I need from you is a Jewish document or teaching on Jewish things that dictates that Jews believe in Predestination.
**I’ve tried to answer this question earlier. I’ll attempt to do so again. Was not Paul a Jew? Yes. He was an accomplice when the Jews stoned Stephen to death. Was he not teaching when he wrote to the Romans? Yes. From where would he have learned the Doctrine of Predestination? He cites Genesis when he says God loved Jacob (a jew ) and hated esau while they were still in the belly of Rebekah (a jew) . Is not that Jewish enough for you? **
Are there no Predestined Souls in tribal regions of Africa? Australia? Asia? Arabia?..
**That is none of my business. Jesus says ‘I am the way’ He didn’t say, ‘I am a way’ If He wants someone saved in one of those regions, it will be done. **
I would love to engage in a discussion with you if I understood what you believe.
