If you are a Christian, what is the real reason for you not being a Catholic? - 2

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Madaglan said:
This should be interesting; they know that I was Roman Catholic, but they don’t know that I’ve become Orthodox. 🙂 Maybe I should throw them for a loop. 😃
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Let us know if they think “Orthodox” means you’re Jewish now 😃
 
Madaglan said:
I think I’ll let my beard grow out over the next week. :tiphat:
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:rotfl:

I only mentioned that because I have run into people who assumed that anyone that was “Orthodox” HAD to be Jewish. Have fun!!
 
catholiconce said:
as defined by who. ? Understand the meaning of the word catholic and you will understand what I mean. understand the history of the church and the reformation and you will see. Understand the roman empire and what they have done and again you will see
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Oh Please You claim to have read my profile !! If you had you would know better than to speak. It is my goal to keep protestants from talking too much. But they just keep jabering. Protestants should only speak when they are spoken to. Be seen and not heard. Better yet not seen or heard.
 
backwoods_blues said:
Oh Please You claim to have read my profile !! If you had you would know better than to speak. It is my goal to keep protestants from talking too much. But they just keep jabering. Protestants should only speak when they are spoken to. Be seen and not heard. Better yet not seen or heard.
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Then what are you doing on the Non-Catholic board???

Anti-Protestants… there are quite a few on this board… 😦
 
Pixie_Dust said:
An online friend of mine, also an I/F Baptist turned Catholic, was told by her Baptist pastor that he would no longer be praying for her and her family, since they were clearly apostate and beyond any hope of salvation - just because they became Catholic. 😦
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That alone should tell her she took the right path. The HATE IFBs have for Catholics borders on insane.
 
Folks, charitable behavior is required even here at non-Catholic religions!! 👍
 
backwoods_blues said:
Oh Please You claim to have read my profile !! If you had you would know better than to speak. It is my goal to keep protestants from talking too much. But they just keep jabering. Protestants should only speak when they are spoken to. Be seen and not heard. Better yet not seen or heard.
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Thank you for your attacks. You have just shown your true colors Backwoods blues. I do realize that less than 1/10 0f 1 % of catholics share the views you do. I Wish you well on this earth and Hope to someday meet you in heavan
 
Jesuspaiditall said:
No one hates Catholics; just many of their beliefs.
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“There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church—which is, of course, quite a different thing. These millions can hardly be blamed for hating Catholics because Catholics “adore statues;” because they “put the Blessed Mother on the same level with God;” because they “say indulgence is a permission to commit sin;” because the Pope “is a Fascist;” because the Church “is the defender of Capitalism.” If the Church taught or believed any one of these things, it should be hated, but the fact is that the Church does not believe nor teach any one of them. It follows then that the hatred of the millions is directed against error and not against truth. As a matter of fact, if we Catholics believed all of the untruths and lies which were said against the Church, we probably would hate the Church a thousand times more than they do.

If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hates. My reason for doing this would be, that if Christ is in any one of the churches of the world today, He must still be hated as He was when He was on earth in the flesh.

If you would find Christ today, then find the Church that does not get along with the world. Look for the Church that is hated by the world, as Christ was hated by the world. Look for the Church which is accused of being behind the times, as Our Lord was accused of being ignorant and never having learned. Look for the Church which men sneer at as socially inferior, as they sneered at Our Lord because He came from Nazareth. Look for the Church which is accused of having a devil, as Our Lord was accused of being possessed by Beelzebub, the Prince of Devils. Look for the Church which the world rejects because it claims it is infallible, as Pilate rejected Christ because he called Himself the Truth. Look for the Church which amid the confusion of conflicting opinions, its members love as they love Christ, and respect its voice as the very voice of its Founder, and the suspicion will grow, that if the Church is unpopular with the spirit of the world, then it is unworldly, and if it is unworldly, it is other-worldly.

Since it is other-worldly, it is infinitely loved and infinitely hated as was Christ Himself. … the Catholic Church is the only Church existing today which goes back to the time of Christ. History is so very clear on this point, it is curious how many miss its obviousness…" ~Bishop Fulton Sheen
 
Those that downplay (or worse, eliminate from their services) the Eucharist need to explain what Jesus meant when He said “DO THIS” when He instituted the Eucharist. It wasn’t a suggestion, it was a directive. I would think that the “Sola Scriptura” folks would take this seriously, right? And we need to remember He is God so when He says something it’s IMPORTANT. We can’t just skip it if it makes us uncomfortable.

The Eucharist is central to our Catholic Faith, and it should be central to every Christian Faith. Not because any person, or because the Catholic Church, says so, but because Jesus said so. He said to DO THIS. It’s in the Gospels. Anyone can look it up.

Of course, that opens a can of worms for some people because, in many Faiths, the question arises ~ who takes the place of Jesus in the re-presentation of the Last Supper? Who blesses the Sacramental Elements? How do you determine who has that authority? Catholics have it “easy” because the authority of our priests extends from the very first Apostles. For others, it is more problematic. Is that why some people skip it or minimize it? Because their leaders really have no authority to bless the Sacraments? If they do have it, where did it come from?
 
Memaw said:
If what you say is true then explain to me how the Catholic Church has survived and thrived, for 2.000 years, with a line of 265 Popes since Peter, still teaches the very same doctrine that Jesus taught His Apostles , and has all 7 of the Sacraments, has Apostolic Succession for 2,000 years, is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church founded by Jesus himself. He promised HIS church would never error. No Pope has ever altered the Doctrine of the Catholic Church and no Pope ever could!!. We trust Jesus to keep HIS word and he has done that for us. Jesus prayed for unity. In the last 500 years or so since the protestant reformation, the protestant denominations have divided and divided into over 40,000 different sects. Thats not unity, and all because they think the Bible is all they need and they can interpret it to suite themselves. When will we ever learn !!!
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first of all, there is no proof peter was ever the bishop of rome. the first pope to ever claim this came 218 years after you think this church began. why do you think a church like this would survive? the truth is self righteousness is always easier than true righteousness which is found only in jesus. this church here has patterned itself after judaism, plain and simple. mixing faith and works as if you actually could. the law leads to death and it could only condemn us.either you are under grace alone, or you are under the law alone. what i see here is people trying to make themselves more acceptable to god, that if you commit yourself to god by baptism or church attendance or any other kind of works that fall under the law. if you add to grace you no longer have a sacrafice, and that my friend only ends in death.so if you get mad at me for loving you in the truth, so be it. i rather share the gospel message with you than to let you go on with this grace+ works stuff.oh and by the way, peter never claimed this papal authority as your other popes have.
 
meandean said:
first of all, there is no proof peter was ever the bishop of rome. the first pope to ever claim this came 218 years after you think this church began. why do you think a church like this would survive? the truth is self righteousness is always easier than true righteousness which is found only in jesus. this church here has patterned itself after judaism, plain and simple. mixing faith and works as if you actually could. the law leads to death and it could only condemn us.either you are under grace alone, or you are under the law alone. what i see here is people trying to make themselves more acceptable to god, that if you commit yourself to god by baptism or church attendance or any other kind of works that fall under the law. if you add to grace you no longer have a sacrafice, and that my friend only ends in death.so if you get mad at me for loving you in the truth, so be it. i rather share the gospel message with you than to let you go on with this grace+ works stuff.oh and by the way, ***peter never claimed this papal authority as your other popes have./***QUOTE]

Interesting point. But would he have had need to do so? If he did assert that he had authority over the whole church, why did he not say so? Why does he virtually disappear after the book of Acts? Note, I did not say completely disappear.
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meandean said:
first of all, there is no proof peter was ever the bishop of rome. the first pope to ever claim this came 218 years after you think this church began. why do you think a church like this would survive? the truth is self righteousness is always easier than true righteousness which is found only in jesus. this church here has patterned itself after judaism, plain and simple. mixing faith and works as if you actually could. the law leads to death and it could only condemn us.either you are under grace alone, or you are under the law alone. what i see here is people trying to make themselves more acceptable to god, that if you commit yourself to god by baptism or church attendance or any other kind of works that fall under the law. if you add to grace you no longer have a sacrafice, and that my friend only ends in death.so if you get mad at me for loving you in the truth, so be it. i rather share the gospel message with you than to let you go on with this grace+ works stuff.oh and by the way, peter never claimed this papal authority as your other popes have.
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I’d like to see the sources for this information, please.
 
Pixie_Dust said:
Ah, but that’s the beauty of seeing Christ’s promises come to fulfillment. Those “corrupted popes” never taught anything contrary to the Church teachings. They might not have lived the faith perfectly (who among us does?) but the teachings of the Church remained unscathed. They have/had to face God for the sins they committed, as we all will, He alone is their judge.
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did you read these words of jesus in mathew 7 :15?and if you did, than why wont you believe him? its pretty cut and dried. if these popes lives did not line up with the word of god, you can be sure their word did not either.and that goes for any teacher who professes the faith.
 
JustaServant said:
Fundamentalists exist and count on the ignorance of their congregations.
I had 18 years of Catholic teaching. I can easily blame the KIND of Catholic teaching I had. But it all came down to the fact that I just wasn’t listening. I was looking for greener pastures.
He might be taken in by all the smoke and mirrors. Hey, the music is great!! Makes me tap my toes and get all excited for Jesus! The preacher? He seems confident as he waves his Bible and ‘tells it like it is’.
The problem is, it’s all an illusion.
The sad part is, when young men like him discover that, they walk away from ALL religion.
He better know what he’s throwing away before he winds up for the pitch.
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What do you suggest we do to help our young people.?? It is soo sad that they walk away so easily, whatever the reason, but I am thankful that many of them do come back eventually.
 
meandean said:
did you read these words of jesus in mathew 7 :15?and if you did, than why wont you believe him? its pretty cut and dried. if these popes lives did not line up with the word of god, you can be sure their word did not either.and that goes for any teacher who professes the faith.
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OH but you forget that Jesus promised HIS Church would NEVER error, He sent the Holy Spirit to protect HIS Church, Don’t you trust Our Lord’s Word?? No Pope, no matter how sinful he may be can do harm to the teachings of the Catholic Church, and NO Pope ever has! The fact that no Pope ever has been able to, is proof enough for that. He has to answer for his sins just like the rest of us do, but the Holy Spirit protests the teaching of the Catholic Church and has for 2,000 years, no matter what YOU think.
 
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