If you are a Christian, what is the real reason for you not being a Catholic? - 2

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In my earlier post - # 446, I gave a brief overview of my Catholic experience. Anyway, my specific reasons:
  1. I only learned duty and forced obedience to outward obligations and duties expected of me as a Catholic - attend Mass and go to Confession.
  2. I never learned or believed that I mattered to God or to any other person in the Church. I was simply another person in the pew.
  3. I often learned to look down upon/despise/hate those who were spiritually different than me.
  4. I never learned about a God of love. But I did grow up with a God of rules, expectations, duties, etc. Never felt I could measure up and live a good Christian life - so why try? I have always felt put down by the Parable of the Talents.
  5. I was always discouraged from asking any Q’s about the Catholic faith - with parental ridicule, hostility, anger - the basic message I learned growing up was “Shut up and follow the program. You’ll understand it when you are older.”
  6. Growing up, I rarely experienced any compassionate love of Jesus from other people - or my extended family of Catholics.
  7. At best, I had a sporadic CCD education - no sustained, patient explanation of the Church’s teachings, practices and reasons for them.
  8. I often learned that my personal ambitions were bad and that I had to follow God at all costs. Whenever I spoke about a personal struggle, I always heard “Obey God”. I have experienced mostly Catholic judgment and rarely the love that I hear about.
  9. Bottom line, I feel the Catholic Church had 25 years to present sound explanations to me for its’ doctrines & model a loving Jesus to me with fewer judgments and more acceptance of me as another sinner created in God’s image seeking to be like Christ.
Therefore - and perhaps sadly - I have no serious interest in rejoining the CC. I enjoy reading everyone’s insights in the quiet privacy of my study; however, as of today, I do not see myself going through the RCIA program or any other Revert program. Were I to re-attend the CC, I would calmly sit in the back - worship quietly and shake hands politely. But I will never actively participate in the life of the CC. The CC had its chance and sadly, at least for now, my heart is closed to any reconciliation or reconnecting. Perhaps, in 15 years - God will change my heart - I have read some insightful books from a devoted MI aunt (P. Madrid & M. Kelly) that keep a flicker of hope alive.

I am involved with a church-affiliated 12-step program where I am loved, accepted and valued for me. Regardless of what church I may attend in the future, I will be a good attender, daily reader of God’s Word and seek to reflect Jesus every day to everyone.
Thank you for being so open and honest with your feelings. If I read you correctly, it seems to me you were let down more by your family than by the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church did not have 25 years, you said you had sporadic CCD training. Even full time CCD training is not enough, ( I know, I taught CCD for 20 years.) The parents are the primary teachers and the Church helps. I could easily see the difference in my students that were taught at home too.
I believe you have a deep down desire to return to the Catholic Faith and now that you are an adult, you have to decide for yourself if you love Jesus enough to come home to HIM. You know HE loves you, HE died on the Cross for you. Don’t worry about anything or anyone else. Just you and HIM. I always suggest to come to visit HIM in Church often, quietly set there with HIM in the Blessed Sacrament. Feel HIS presence and LOVE. Ask the Blessed Mother to take you in her arms, spiritually, and pray for you. Love her, you can’t love her more than Jesus does. Open up your heart and give God chance to help you overcome your anger. God Bless and prayers, Memaw
 
Well my dad left the church for severa reasons.

he did not believe the teachings were compatible with christianity.
  1. Worshipping Idols like Marry and Saints.
  2. Asking a power to interview and be an intermiediatary between God and himself, like marry or a saint. He didn’t understand that. From his interpetation of scripture he thought we should pray directly to God.
  3. Confessing sins to a priest. We are told to confess sins to God not a priest.
  4. The ridiculousness of pentance. A priest randomly choosing as punisment for the sinner to do so many hail mary’s without any ryme or reason. No standard he went by. No where in the bible does it say for punishment to say so many hail mary’s.
  5. The idea that the bread at communion actually was magically transformed into the body of christ by the priest through some spell. This never sat well. Show me in the bible where it says a priest has this power. Or how they even got such an idea.
  6. And lastly the most important to dad. He witnessed a priest in his church as a boy looking up little girls skirts and the catholic church did absolutely nothing to stop it, they covered up for the priest.
 
Well my dad left the church for severa reasons.

he did not believe the teachings were compatible with christianity.
  1. Worshipping Idols like Marry and Saints.
  2. Asking a power to interview and be an intermiediatary between God and himself, like marry or a saint. He didn’t understand that. From his interpetation of scripture he thought we should pray directly to God.
  3. Confessing sins to a priest. We are told to confess sins to God not a priest.
  4. The ridiculousness of pentance. A priest randomly choosing as punisment for the sinner to do so many hail mary’s without any ryme or reason. No standard he went by. No where in the bible does it say for punishment to say so many hail mary’s.
  5. The idea that the bread at communion actually was magically transformed into the body of christ by the priest through some spell. This never sat well. Show me in the bible where it says a priest has this power. Or how they even got such an idea.
  6. And lastly the most important to dad. He witnessed a priest in his church as a boy looking up little girls skirts and the catholic church did absolutely nothing to stop it, they covered up for the priest.
Sorry, I don’t believe this has anything to do with you “Dad”. What anti-Catholic track are you reading from? 🤷
 
Sorry, I don’t believe this has anything to do with you “Dad”. What anti-Catholic track are you reading from? 🤷
Me neither!!! Sounds like your typical Protestant boilerplate contra-Catholic polemics. Is there any such thing as an original thought among protestants anymore? My sister regurgitated the same nonsense about six months ago, only she added the oft-repeated slur, the church is the whore of Babylon, the anti-Christ. I wish people would investigate the matter for themselves instead of naively believing what others say!
 
Me neither!!! Sounds like your typical Protestant boilerplate contra-Catholic polemics. Is there any such thing as an original thought among protestants anymore? My sister regurgitated the same nonsense about six months ago, only she added the oft-repeated slur, the church is the whore of Babylon, the anti-Christ. I wish people would investigate the matter for themselves instead of naively believing what others say!
Investigating for themselves might take effort! Too much trouble!! 😉

Unfortunately this sort of drive-by rudeness is commonplace these days. Those that leave this sort of thing behind on the internet often think they’re clever for some unknown reason. This sort of childish behavior has moved well beyond the kindergarten playground. 🤷
 
Me neither!!! Sounds like your typical Protestant boilerplate contra-Catholic polemics. Is there any such thing as an original thought among protestants anymore? My sister regurgitated the same nonsense about six months ago, only she added the oft-repeated slur, the church is the whore of Babylon, the anti-Christ. I wish people would investigate the matter for themselves instead of naively believing what others say!
I agree with you 100% and they call themselves Christian!! A real Christian wouldn’t spread lies about others. They claim they read the Bible but I think they skipped over the 10 Commandments., as well as much more, especially Thou Shalt NOT Bear False Witness Against Thy Neighbor. How they can settle for all this foul mouth garbage and call it christianity, I will NEVER understand. Don’t they have anything better to do. I would think they would get sick of listening to themselves. I sure get sick of hearing them.
 
I didn’t read that or I wouldn’t have posted the site.
Forgiven. 🙂

But the fact that a “Christian” would resort to that type of trash to further Christianity is very sad. There are many other sites like that. Also see the protestors at the Pope’s visit. Harassing people who were trying to listen to the masses outside the stadiums. Very sad.😦
 
Well my dad left the church for severa reasons.

he did not believe the teachings were compatible with christianity.
  1. Worshipping Idols like Marry and Saints.
  2. Asking a power to interview and be an intermiediatary between God and himself, like marry or a saint. He didn’t understand that. From his interpetation of scripture he thought we should pray directly to God.
  3. Confessing sins to a priest. We are told to confess sins to God not a priest.
  4. The ridiculousness of pentance. A priest randomly choosing as punisment for the sinner to do so many hail mary’s without any ryme or reason. No standard he went by. No where in the bible does it say for punishment to say so many hail mary’s.
  5. The idea that the bread at communion actually was magically transformed into the body of christ by the priest through some spell. This never sat well. Show me in the bible where it says a priest has this power. Or how they even got such an idea.
  6. And lastly the most important to dad. He witnessed a priest in his church as a boy looking up little girls skirts and the catholic church did absolutely nothing to stop it, they covered up for the priest.
Dear Prince,
What about you? You’d be better off to research what the Church truly teaches before posting such falsehoods.
 
Bless you. I am going to go to the Catholic church in the next month to start the ball rolling. And yes, I have thought that the children might bring my ex-husband back to the church, although our marriage is definately over (we weren’t married in the Catholic church but I will be seeking an annulement, the usual he had an affair, left us and lives with her). I absolutely agree that a family strongly united in faith is a strong family, having been in one which wasn’t. Praise the Lord, he has a plan for us (Jeremiah 29 v11)🙂
Been there, done that too. Ex-husband PROFESSED to be Catholic and we went to pre-cana, the whole nine yards. Better to be single than to be married to a liar. It’s a bad example for the kids. With every Sacrament my kids made, he drew further from the Church, to the point where actually became abusive towards it. He is now on marriage no 3 with a wife on marriage no 4!
 
I agree with you 100% and they call themselves Christian!! A real Christian wouldn’t spread lies about others. They claim they read the Bible but I think they skipped over the 10 Commandments., as well as much more, especially Thou Shalt NOT Bear False Witness Against Thy Neighbor. How they can settle for all this foul mouth garbage and call it christianity, I will NEVER understand. Don’t they have anything better to do. I would think they would get sick of listening to themselves. I sure get sick of hearing them.
Then, I guess according to what you are saying Catholics should not be able to call themselves Christians either. Every Christian faith, Catholic and Protestants alike, has people that don’t deserve to call themselves Christians.
 
Forgiven. 🙂

But the fact that a “Christian” would resort to that type of trash to further Christianity is very sad. There are many other sites like that. Also see the protestors at the Pope’s visit. Harassing people who were trying to listen to the masses outside the stadiums. Very sad.😦
Those people don’t deserve to call themselves Christians.
 
Then, I guess according to what you are saying Catholics should not be able to call themselves Christians either. Every Christian faith, Catholic and Protestants alike, has people that don’t deserve to call themselves Christians.
I think you enjoy trying to put word in other people’s mouth. Read your post above this one.
 
Then, I guess according to what you are saying Catholics should not be able to call themselves Christians either. Every Christian faith, Catholic and Protestants alike, has people that don’t deserve to call themselves Christians.
A christian of any denomination should know it is sinful to lie about someone, and most especially something pertaining to God. If you don’t know the truth, you are better off just keeping your mouth shut. Why do you love to try and stir up trouble. Get a Life.
 
A christian of any denomination should know it is sinful to lie about someone, and most especially something pertaining to God. If you don’t know the truth, you are better off just keeping your mouth shut. Why do you love to try and stir up trouble. Get a Life.
I agree. Agree again. I don’t. You too.
 
I agree. Agree again. I don’t. You too.
In my humble opinion, as a former Lutheran, to be a Christian is to be a Catholic, because the unity the bible speaks of so often can be found exclusively in the C.C. *IT ONLY TOOK 20 YEARS TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
  • LOL:thumbsup:
Christ revealed the truth and gave it to His Church, and men are to be saved by knowing and following the truth. But the essential unity of the true Christian Church is also explicitly and repeatedly declared throughout the New Testament:
Code:
* Speaking of His Church, the Saviour called it a kingdom, the kingdom of heaven, the kingdom of God (Matthew 13:24, 31, 33; Luke 13:18; John 18:36);
* He compared it to a city the keys of which were entrusted to the Apostles (Matthew 5:14; 16:19),
* to a sheepfold to which all His sheep must come and be united under one shepherd (John 10:7-17);
* to a vine and its branches,
* to a house built upon a rock against which not even the powers of hell should ever prevail (Matthew 16:18).
* Moreover, the Saviour, just before He suffered, prayed for His disciples, for those who were afterwards to believe in Him -- for His Church -- that they might be one and remain one as He and the Father are one (John 17:20-23); and
* He had already warned them that "every kingdom divided against itself shall be made desolate: and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand" (Matthew 12:25).
These words of Christ are expressive of the closest unity.

St. Paul likewise insists on the unity of the Church.
Code:
* Schism and disunion he brands as crimes to be classed with murder and debauchery, and declares that those guilty of "dissensions" and "sects" shall not obtain the kingdom of God (Galatians 5:20-21).
* Hearing of the schisms among the Corinthians, he asked impatiently: "Is Christ divided? Was Paul then crucified for you? or were you baptized in the name of Paul?" (1 Corinthians 1:13).
* And in the same Epistle he describes the Church as one body with many members distinct among themselves, but one with Christ their head: "For in one Spirit we are all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Gentiles, whether bond or free" (1 Corinthians 12:13).
* To show the intimate union of the members of the Church with the one God, he asks: "The chalice of benediction, which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? And the bread, which we break, is it not the partaking of the body of the Lord? For we, being many, are one bread, one body, all that partake of one bread" (1 Corinthians 10:16-17).
* Again in his Epistle to the Ephesians he teaches the same doctrine, and exhorts them to be "careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace", and he reminds them that there is but "one body and one spirit-one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all" (Ephesians 4:3-6).
* Already, in one of his very first Epistles, he had warned the faithful of Galatia that if anybody, even an angel from heaven, should preach unto them any other Gospel than that which he had preached, "let him be anathema" (Galatians 1:8).
Such declarations as these coming from the great Apostle are clear evidence of the essential unity which must be characteristic of the true Christian Church.

The other Apostles also persistently proclaimed this essential and necessary unity of Christ’s Church (cf. 1 John 4:1-7; Apocalypse 2:6, 14-15, 20-29; 2 Peter 2:1-19; Jude 5:19). And although divisions did arise now and then in the early Church, they were speedily put down and the disturbers rejected, so that even from the beginning the Christians could boast that they were of “one heart and one soul” (Acts 4:32; cf. Acts 11:22; 13:1).

Tradition is unanimous to the same effect. Whenever heresy threatened to invade the Church, the Fathers rose up against it as an essential evil.
Code:
* The unity of the Church was the object of nearly all the exhortations of St. Ignatius of Antioch ("Ad Ephes.", n. 5, 16-17; "Ad Philadelph.", n. 3).
* St. Irenaeus went even further, and taught that the test of the one true Church, in which alone was salvation, was its union with Rome (Adv. haeres., III, iii).
* Tertullian likewise compared the Church to an ark outside of which there is no salvation, and he maintained that only he who embraced every doctrine handed down by the Apostolic Churches, especially by that of Rome, belonged to the true Church (De praescript., xxi).
* The same contention was upheld by Clement of Alexandria and by Origen, who said that outside the one visible Church none could be saved.
* St. Cyprian in his treatise on the unity of the Church says: "God is one, and Christ one, and one the Church of Christ" (De eccl. unitate, xxiii); and again in his epistles he insists that there is but "One Church founded upon Peter by Christ the Lord" (Epist. 70, ad Jan.) and that there is but "one altar and one priesthood" (Epist. 40, v).
Many more testimonies of unity might be adduced from Saints Jerome, Augustine, Chrysostom, and the other Fathers, but their teachings are only too well known. The long list of councils, the history and treatment of heretics and heresies in every century show beyond doubt that unity of doctrine of cult, and of authority, has always been regarded as an essential and visible mark of the true Christian Church. As shown above, it was the intention of Christ that His Church should be one, and that, not in any accidental internal way, but essentially and visibly. Unity is the fundamental mark of the Church, for without it the other marks would have no meaning, since indeed the Church itself could not exist. Unity is the source of strength and organization, as discord and schism are of weakness and confusion. Given one supernatural authority which all respect, a common doctrine which all profess, one form of worship subject to the same authority and expressive of the same teaching, centred in one sacrifice and in the reception of the same sacraments, and the other marks of the Church necessarily follow and are easily understood.

That the mark of unity which is distinctive of and essential to the true Church of Christ is to be found in none other than the Roman Catholic Church, follows naturally from what has been said. All the theories of unity entertained by the sects are woefully out of harmony with the true and proper concept of unity as defined above and as taught by Christ, the Apostles, and all orthodox Tradition. In no other Christian body is there a oneness of faith, of worship, and of discipline. Between no two of the hundreds of nonCatholic sects is there a common bond of union; each one having a different head, a different belief, a different cult. Nay more, even between the members of any one sect there is no such thing as real unity, for their first and foremost principle is that each one is free to believe and do as he wishes. They are constantly breaking up into new sects and subdivisions of sects, showing that they have within themselves the seeds of disunion and disintegration. Divisions and subdivisions have ever been the characteristics of Protestantism. This is certainly a literal fulfilment of the words of Christ: “Every plant which my heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted up” (Matthew 15:13); and “every kingdom divided against itself shall be made desolate: and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand” (Matthew 12:25).
 
In my humble opinion, as a former Lutheran, to be a Christian is to be a Catholic, because the unity the bible speaks of so often can be found exclusively in the C.C. *IT ONLY TOOK 20 YEARS TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
  • LOL:thumbsup:
Christ revealed the truth and gave it to His Church, and men are to be saved by knowing and following the truth. But the essential unity of the true Christian Church is also explicitly and repeatedly declared throughout the New Testament:
Code:
* Speaking of His Church, the Saviour called it a kingdom, the kingdom of heaven, the kingdom of God (Matthew 13:24, 31, 33; Luke 13:18; John 18:36);
* He compared it to a city the keys of which were entrusted to the Apostles (Matthew 5:14; 16:19),
* to a sheepfold to which all His sheep must come and be united under one shepherd (John 10:7-17);
* to a vine and its branches,
* to a house built upon a rock against which not even the powers of hell should ever prevail (Matthew 16:18).
* Moreover, the Saviour, just before He suffered, prayed for His disciples, for those who were afterwards to believe in Him -- for His Church -- that they might be one and remain one as He and the Father are one (John 17:20-23); and
* He had already warned them that "every kingdom divided against itself shall be made desolate: and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand" (Matthew 12:25).
These words of Christ are expressive of the closest unity.

St. Paul likewise insists on the unity of the Church.
Code:
* Schism and disunion he brands as crimes to be classed with murder and debauchery, and declares that those guilty of "dissensions" and "sects" shall not obtain the kingdom of God (Galatians 5:20-21).
* Hearing of the schisms among the Corinthians, he asked impatiently: "Is Christ divided? Was Paul then crucified for you? or were you baptized in the name of Paul?" (1 Corinthians 1:13).
* And in the same Epistle he describes the Church as one body with many members distinct among themselves, but one with Christ their head: "For in one Spirit we are all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Gentiles, whether bond or free" (1 Corinthians 12:13).
* To show the intimate union of the members of the Church with the one God, he asks: "The chalice of benediction, which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? And the bread, which we break, is it not the partaking of the body of the Lord? For we, being many, are one bread, one body, all that partake of one bread" (1 Corinthians 10:16-17).
* Again in his Epistle to the Ephesians he teaches the same doctrine, and exhorts them to be "careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace", and he reminds them that there is but "one body and one spirit-one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all" (Ephesians 4:3-6).
* Already, in one of his very first Epistles, he had warned the faithful of Galatia that if anybody, even an angel from heaven, should preach unto them any other Gospel than that which he had preached, "let him be anathema" (Galatians 1:8).
Such declarations as these coming from the great Apostle are clear evidence of the essential unity which must be characteristic of the true Christian Church.

The other Apostles also persistently proclaimed this essential and necessary unity of Christ’s Church (cf. 1 John 4:1-7; Apocalypse 2:6, 14-15, 20-29; 2 Peter 2:1-19; Jude 5:19). And although divisions did arise now and then in the early Church, they were speedily put down and the disturbers rejected, so that even from the beginning the Christians could boast that they were of “one heart and one soul” (Acts 4:32; cf. Acts 11:22; 13:1).

Tradition is unanimous to the same effect. Whenever heresy threatened to invade the Church, the Fathers rose up against it as an essential evil.
Code:
* The unity of the Church was the object of nearly all the exhortations of St. Ignatius of Antioch ("Ad Ephes.", n. 5, 16-17; "Ad Philadelph.", n. 3).
* St. Irenaeus went even further, and taught that the test of the one true Church, in which alone was salvation, was its union with Rome (Adv. haeres., III, iii).
* Tertullian likewise compared the Church to an ark outside of which there is no salvation, and he maintained that only he who embraced every doctrine handed down by the Apostolic Churches, especially by that of Rome, belonged to the true Church (De praescript., xxi).
* The same contention was upheld by Clement of Alexandria and by Origen, who said that outside the one visible Church none could be saved.
* St. Cyprian in his treatise on the unity of the Church says: "God is one, and Christ one, and one the Church of Christ" (De eccl. unitate, xxiii); and again in his epistles he insists that there is but "One Church founded upon Peter by Christ the Lord" (Epist. 70, ad Jan.) and that there is but "one altar and one priesthood" (Epist. 40, v).
Many more testimonies of unity might be adduced from Saints Jerome, Augustine, Chrysostom, and the other Fathers, but their teachings are only too well known. The long list of councils, the history and treatment of heretics and heresies in every century show beyond doubt that unity of doctrine of cult, and of authority, has always been regarded as an essential and visible mark of the true Christian Church. As shown above, it was the intention of Christ that His Church should be one, and that, not in any accidental internal way, but essentially and visibly. Unity is the fundamental mark of the Church, for without it the other marks would have no meaning, since indeed the Church itself could not exist. Unity is the source of strength and organization, as discord and schism are of weakness and confusion. Given one supernatural authority which all respect, a common doctrine which all profess, one form of worship subject to the same authority and expressive of the same teaching, centred in one sacrifice and in the reception of the same sacraments, and the other marks of the Church necessarily follow and are easily understood.

That the mark of unity which is distinctive of and essential to the true Church of Christ is to be found in none other than the Roman Catholic Church, follows naturally from what has been said. All the theories of unity entertained by the sects are woefully out of harmony with the true and proper concept of unity as defined above and as taught by Christ, the Apostles, and all orthodox Tradition. In no other Christian body is there a oneness of faith, of worship, and of discipline. Between no two of the hundreds of nonCatholic sects is there a common bond of union; each one having a different head, a different belief, a different cult. Nay more, even between the members of any one sect there is no such thing as real unity, for their first and foremost principle is that each one is free to believe and do as he wishes. They are constantly breaking up into new sects and subdivisions of sects, showing that they have within themselves the seeds of disunion and disintegration. Divisions and subdivisions have ever been the characteristics of Protestantism. This is certainly a literal fulfilment of the words of Christ: “Every plant which my heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted up” (Matthew 15:13); and “every kingdom divided against itself shall be made desolate: and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand” (Matthew 12:25).
Your opion is stricktly that. It’s your opinion. I know people who have been Catholic a lot longer than 20 years and that still don’t see the unity that they long for.
Lets look at some of the scripture you wrote down.
  • And in the same Epistle he describes the Church as one body with many members distinct among themselves, but one with Christ their head: “For in one Spirit we are all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Gentiles, whether bond or free” (1 Corinthians 12:13).
    This shows Jews and Gentiles being of the same body. You ever think that Protestants and Catholics are part of the same body. According to this scripture it looks like a possibility.
    I agree.
    You are obviously mistaken about at least some non-Catholic churches.
 
What does that have to do with anything?
In Post 603 your being insulting and you know it. I didn’t mention any particular denomination but you couldn’t resist slamming Catholics. Don’t you have anything better to do with your life. You certainly don’t impress me. And like I said before, I can speak for myself, I don’t need you trying to wrongly interpret what I mean.
 
In Post 603 your being insulting and you know it. I didn’t mention any particular denomination but you couldn’t resist slamming Catholics. Don’t you have anything better to do with your life. You certainly don’t impress me. And like I said before, I can speak for myself, I don’t need you trying to wrongly interpret what I mean.
The post you were replying to, post 599, was referring to Protestants and therefore makes it look as tho you are referring to them as well. I’m not trying to slam Catholics or any other faith for that matter. Do you have anything better to do than to insult others. I’m not trying to impress anyone on here and especially not you. I’m sorry if I mis understood something you said, but I’m not the only one at fault here. You have obviously misunderstood me too.
 
The post you were replying to, post 599, was referring to Protestants and therefore makes it look as tho you are referring to them as well. I’m not trying to slam Catholics or any other faith for that matter. Do you have anything better to do than to insult others. I’m not trying to impress anyone on here and especially not you. I’m sorry if I mis understood something you said, but I’m not the only one at fault here. You have obviously misunderstood me too.
You kooda fooled me!!!
 
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