If you are a Christian, what is the real reason for you not being a Catholic?

[CalmDownWisWins]

If you believed that God is indivisable, then you wouldn’t be claiming that God the Father and God the Son are two different Gods.

“God” is by definition a singular thing. It is not “God”, but “god”, that can possibly be plural.

Your non-understanding of the word “indivisible” in this context is your problem. You might want to research that a bit.

Many people consider “God” just to be a special-case of “god”, such as “the god who won the battle to control creation”, which does absolute devastation to Christianity, of course, but some under-educated Christians still hold remnants of this idea, especially those “literalistic (as opposed to literal) fundamantalist” protestants who see God as the “Big white bearded fellow in the sky”.

The actual definition of God makes the distinction between “God” and “god” quite clear.

 

[cath0lic]

Well, we all get a little ‘arrogant’ now and then, don’t we.

The Catholics here are not professional theologians, but they love their faith dearly, give them that.

I think your personal attack is arrogant, and I think hiding behine your namesake - ‘catholic’ - is a bit arrogant.

Now that we got the name calling out of the way, why don’t you give us your theological reasons, and not your ad hominem arguments.

peace

This question didn’t ask for theological reasons.

I’m sorry my answer (and name) offends you. I didn’t mean for it to be.

I gave the answer I gave because that is want led me to question my Catholic upbringing.

 

[FredSmith]

“God” is by definition a singular thing. It is not “God”, but “god”, that can possibly be plural.

Your non-understanding of the word “indivisible” in this context is your problem. You might want to research that a bit.

Many people consider “God” just to be a special-case of “god”, such as “the god who won the battle to control creation”, which does absolute devastation to Christianity, of course, but some under-educated Christians still hold remnants of this idea, especially those “literalistic (as opposed to literal) fundamantalist” protestants who see God as the “Big white bearded fellow in the sky”.

The actual definition of God makes the distinction between “God” and “god” quite clear.

In other words: “Oops! You caught me promoting polytheism.”

 

[FredSmith]

Fred,

What Catholic is saying that God the Father, and God the Son are two different Gods?

I’ve already explained how the only logical conclusion to the statement, “Mary is the mother of God the Son, but not of God the Holy Spirit or God the Father” is that they are seperate and distinct Gods. Thus, polytheism.

What are your reasons as a Christian for not being a Catholic?

1. Because of all of Roman Catholicism’s Unbiblical doctrines and practices.
2. Because I would not be welcome there.

You never answered my question as to what religion are you.

Christian.

 

[Jimmy_B]

Is being rude all you can do?

I didn’t say you’re rude because you disagree with the Bible, I said you’re rude because you’re very rude.

But it isn’t based on the Bible. It’s completely anti-Biblical.

in context, where as, many Protestant beliefs are based on a handful of verses.[/quoet]

And yet, anytime I’ve asked you to name one Christian belief that isn’t backed up by scripture, you can’t do it.

Now, since it’s obvious that you can’t show any manners or civility, welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Mannyfit75]

I had to agree with Jim. Fred is rude. He comes here to polterize Catholics to leave their faith.

 

[Jimmy_B]

I see. Do you believe that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all the same God?

Yes,

By Jimmy B.
The Holy Trinity is a self-evident Biblical truth. While it is true that the word “Trinity” is not found in the Bible, it is an apparent truth which is revealed to us in the Bible. The truth, which is that the Holy Trinity has always existed can be found, present in the Bible.

The Bible reveals the Trinity to us and it reveals to us a God, our God, Who is omni- intelligent (all knowing), omni-powerful (all powerful) and omnipresent (the ability to be everywhere and anywhere, at any and all times).

His (God’s), true perfection, essence, deity, nature and presence can clearly be found in Holy Scriptures.

The essence of God our Father is that of Three “persons” one God, all parts being equal, while at the same time being inseparable.

St. Patrick has been described; using a three leaf clover to illustrate this point, one clover leaf, three equal and inseparable “parts” or pedals.

To deny the Trinity is to deny the power and ability of God.

This is a Christian truth which must be accepted by all Christians, because at the point in which one does not accept this Christian truth, they are not by definition a “Christian”.

 

[Jimmy_B]

The Catechism of the Catholic Church tells us:

461………Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on the cross.

468……our Lord Jesus Christ, one of the Trinity, Thus everything in Christ’s human nature is to be attributed to his divine person as its proper subject, not only his miracles but also his sufferings and even his death: “He who was crucified in the flesh, our Lord Jesus Christ, is true God, Lord of glory, and one of the Holy Trinity”

469 The Church thus confesses that Jesus is inseparably true God and true man. He is truly the Son of God who, without ceasing to be God and Lord, became a man and our brother:

**FredSmith,

**Do you disagree with this? (the Catechism verses provided). if so, I would like to know which Christian denomination it is that you claim to be. **

Do you even know what you believe is or where your belief originates?

**Denying the Trinity or denying, “Mary, as the mother of God” are heresies which were already addressed in the early centuries of Christianity, long before there existed any Protestant religions. **

Research the Catholic response to the Early Christian Heresies and I think that is where you will find your answers.

Christianity cannot not be a religion of “sound-bites”. Are your basing your faith on “sound-bites”? If so, then provide a verse, or “sound-bite” here and I will try and put it into context for you.
**

 

[mgrfin]

This question didn’t ask for theological reasons.

I’m sorry my answer (and name) offends you. I didn’t mean for it to be.

I gave the answer I gave because that is want led me to question my Catholic upbringing.

Still waiting for those theological reasons.

And yes, I find your name offensive. Is that big 'O" in the middle to mean that Catholicism is zero?

Why wouldn’t you think Catholics here would find that offensive?

peace

 

[Jimmy_B]

Additionally, a person who does not believe that Jesus Christ was fully human and fully divine is not by definition a “Christian”.

 

[cath0lic]

I haven’t figured it out that’s why I’m here.

But, I don’t feel that Catholics consider everyone brothers and sisters in Christ and I’m feeling it right now with the way you are responding to my posts.

 

[cath0lic]

haven’t figured it out that’s why I’m here.

But, I don’t feel that Catholics consider everyone brothers and sisters in Christ and I’m feeling it right now with the way you are responding to my posts.

 

[cath0lic]

Still waiting for those theological reasons.

And yes, I find your name offensive. Is that big 'O" in the middle to mean that Catholicism is zero?

Why wouldn’t you think Catholics here would find that offensive?

peace

I haven’t figured it out that’s why I’m here.

But, I don’t feel that Catholics consider everyone brothers and sisters in Christ and I’m feeling it right now with the way you are responding to my posts.

You are putting way too much thought into my name. I never thought of zero meaning anything except for a way to use an unique name that wasn’t already taken.

 

[cath0lic]

Still waiting for those theological reasons.

And yes, I find your name offensive. Is that big 'O" in the middle to mean that Catholicism is zero?

Why wouldn’t you think Catholics here would find that offensive?

peace

Protestants LOVE to scream “ARROGANCE”, as it is thought by them that it “throws off the game” of others (Catholics) more than their own kind because they are more practiced in demonstrating it and defending themselves against that attack due to the interminable internal “arrogation” battles between the various protestant denominations.

So, yet another excellent example of not seeking understanding and replacing it with the search for (“arrogantly” unsupported) assertions of superiority.

At least we are MORE THAN HAPPY to support our actual superiority!

CalmDownWisWins gives a wonderful example of why I wouldn’t think it would be offensive.

And also I have met many other Catholics who like to be “right” and are more focused on that than connecting “lost” people to God.

 

[2ndGen]

This is a difficult question, because I’m not sure of all the Catholic teachings that I do agree with! For the purposes of simplicity I’m not going to include basic Christian beliefs here.

*I agree with Catholics that the deuterocanonical books are valid Scripture.
*I understand and accept the reasoning behind praying to Mary and the Saints, though I don’t practice either.
*I do NOT believe in OSAS, though I’m not sure exactly what the Catholic view on salvation is, so I’m not sure I entirely agree with it!
*I tend to think that Mary was indeed Ever-Virgin
*I believe in the Real Presence

There may be more, but that’s all I can think of right now.

Also, in order to be truly accurate, Christian churches should probably be using matzoh for Communion…which, as far as I know, no one does.

Welcom home Hannah!

Oh, what’s that? Not yet?

Sorry!



Well, when you cross the Tiber, I’ll be the first one with a big smile!

(Plus, when you become Catholic, you get to know the secret handshake and a 10% off all Home Depot purchases card! LOL! Jusssst kidding!)

 

[Jimmy_B]

I haven’t figured it out that’s why I’m here.

But, I don’t feel that Catholics consider everyone brothers and sisters in Christ and I’m feeling it right now with the way you are responding to my posts.

You are putting way too much thought into my name. I never thought of zero meaning anything except for a way to use an unique name that wasn’t already taken.

Regarding the ‘handle” or forum name “cathOlic”

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I don’t like it and I don’t think it’s funny!

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This person, from his/her posts doesn’t appear to be Catholic. Isn’t a “handle” like this breaking the CAF rules? Additionally, is it possible the “O” has another, even more despicable meaning, I hope not. I hope that the Moderators are keeping an eye on this one.

 

[fbl9]

see what people like FredSmith do to us. riling up the hornet’s nest then some one else comes along and ends gettiong the sting. mellow people. and yes i know prudent as a snake gentle as a dove.i am refering to Cath0lic

 

[ralphinal]

Way off the topic, but the name cath0lic does not phase me. It is typical of a younger crowd than is usually on here. Things like $pidey or ?uestion are part of the same group. It is just a by-product of the internet age.

Back to the topic.

Pastor Smith, I have two simple questions for you. First, if at any time anyone can show you Biblical rational for a Catholic teaching would you accept it as possible or dismiss it? Second, would you please, please cite SOURCES on your claims? I have a feeling that you have never read actual Church documents from the Church itself.

Now a question for all non-Catholics who post on here: If the Holy Spirit is guiding your reading of scriptures, why is there more than one denomination? One God should guide everyone to one faith. One Bible should be read one way if it is read under the power of the Holy Spirit.

 

[2ndGen]

Folks, don’t bother wasting your time.

This will be the result…

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=3200030&postcount=358

 

[mgrfin]

I haven’t figured it out that’s why I’m here.

But, I don’t feel that Catholics consider everyone brothers and sisters in Christ and I’m feeling it right now with the way you are responding to my posts.

You are putting way too much thought into my name. I never thought of zero meaning anything except for a way to use an unique name that wasn’t already taken.

When all else fails, pull the guilt trip.

If you stop waving the red flag in front of the bull, things might be better. Consider changing your name.

Are you sure you are a Roman Catholic? We have many non-Catholics here flying under assumed colors.
peace