If you lose all your body parts can you still be alive?

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Let’s say I lose an arm and replace it with a robotic arm. Then I lose a leg and replace it with a robotic leg. Then I get a robotic heart after mine fails. Then a portion of my brain fails and I get a robotic part to replace it. Let’s say this goes on and on till my entire body is robotic. At what point is my soul not on earth anymore? How much of me can be a robot before I die?
 
iwannabesomeone said:
Let’s say I lose an arm and replace it with a robotic arm. Then I lose a leg and replace it with a robotic leg. Then I get a robotic heart after mine fails. Then a portion of my brain fails and I get a robotic part to replace it. Let’s say this goes on and on till my entire body is robotic. At what point is my soul not on earth anymore? How much of me can be a robot before I die?
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I have always suspected that the brain is the seat of the soul, and that free will is hidden beneath the randomness component of quantum behavior, as that affects chemical reactions in the brain comprisi9ng thought.

Supposedly, during the French Revolution, the reason why the executioner held up the severed head of the guillotined nobles after their beheading was the assumption at that time that the head remained ensouled, as life drained out of it, and so the head was held up to force it to watch audience appreciation of their death.

I just read that in the 1970s monkey’s heads were in fact successfully transplanted. If this were done to a person, presumably the soul and free will would follow the head.
 
Hmmm!!

When you as a person (on your own) can no longer do the following…your soul is gone.
The soul may be defined as the ultimate internal principle by which **we **think, feel, and will, and by which our bodies are animated. The term “mind” usually denotes this principle as the subject of our conscious states, while “soul” denotes the source of our vegetative activities as well. That our vital activities proceed from a principle capable of subsisting in itself, is the thesis of the substantiality of the soul: that this principle is not itself composite, extended, corporeal, or essentially and intrinsically dependent on the body, is the doctrine of spirituality.
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newadvent.org/cathen/14153a.htm

Pax Christi
 
of course.
if you see my knees, eyes, mind, and other parts laying around where I lost them when they broke, please PM me so I can pick them up.

there is a GB Shaw play that speculates on this idea and ends up with a brain on a pedastal talking to itself when the play ends.
 
With my memory it’s no wonder that I’m not this guy you’re describing…Sorry, couldn’t resist…😃
 
iwannabesomeone said:
Let’s say I lose an arm and replace it with a robotic arm. Then I lose a leg and replace it with a robotic leg. Then I get a robotic heart after mine fails. Then a portion of my brain fails and I get a robotic part to replace it. Let’s say this goes on and on till my entire body is robotic. At what point is my soul not on earth anymore? How much of me can be a robot before I die?
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Sounds like Robocop.

At some point one’s soul leaves the body, and they are dead. Interesting question, if we are able to advance science to Robocop levels, where this takes us morally.
 
You’ll know when God calls you home.:harp::heaven::angel1:
 
If you became like Darth Vader or Robocop you would still be alive and considered human because your ability to act as a human has in no way diminished. If the brain was taken away or there was an attempt to use your soul to animate a robot which your soul or personality would be transferred to, it would be technology, not God, that is attempting to keep you alive. Because God will not allow your soul to be defiled in this way by undoing your humanity and making it into something else, I believe he takes your soul away when the capacity to be a human creature is gone. Note that this is not the same as someone who is in a coma or is a vegetable. If God wills it, these people can be cured, and it’s not the same as not being human anymore, because God can restore the mental, physical, etc, attributes, because the organs are still there that they need to think and feel through.

A person who is now a robot is no longer human. Anyone who claims the personality or soul of the person was transferred to the robot is probably wrong. At best, they may try and create an A.I personality that can function on similar brainwave patterns, and this and that and the other, and it can mimic the human it used to be, but it’s not John or Jane Doe anymore, it’s a lifeless robot. It will never be the genuine article because the all-encompassing factor that made John or Jane Doe a human is no longer there- their soul.

Science fiction entertains us with concepts that bridge the gap, like artificial intelligence, or implanting a brain into a robot, and having the robot access the memory banks of the human and somehow mimic it, which gives the outward appearance that the person continues to live on, through the robot, etc. While these concepts make for entertaining movies that are thought-provoking, and rightfully so, they usually don’t have any spirituality to them, which if it were present, would explain how this just isn’t possible. If there is a spiritual element, it’s there as a plot device, and usually nothing more.
 
iwannabesomeone said:
Let’s say I lose an arm and replace it with a robotic arm. Then I lose a leg and replace it with a robotic leg. Then I get a robotic heart after mine fails. Then a portion of my brain fails and I get a robotic part to replace it. Let’s say this goes on and on till my entire body is robotic. At what point is my soul not on earth anymore? How much of me can be a robot before I die?
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The Bible says the soul of the flesh is in the blood.
 
iwannabesomeone said:
Let’s say I lose an arm and replace it with a robotic arm. Then I lose a leg and replace it with a robotic leg. Then I get a robotic heart after mine fails. Then a portion of my brain fails and I get a robotic part to replace it. Let’s say this goes on and on till my entire body is robotic. At what point is my soul not on earth anymore? How much of me can be a robot before I die?
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Hey! It’s the Ship of Theseus for people! 😃
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The Bible says the soul of the flesh is in the blood.
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Say you have leukemia. You get blood transfusion after blood transfusion and eventually get a bone marrow transplant. At this point, none of your blood originated with you except for what has been produced by your new bone marrow, but your bone marrow came from someone else as well.

Have you lost your soul?
 
iwannabesomeone said:
Let’s say I lose an arm and replace it with a robotic arm. Then I lose a leg and replace it with a robotic leg. Then I get a robotic heart after mine fails. Then a portion of my brain fails and I get a robotic part to replace it. Let’s say this goes on and on till my entire body is robotic. At what point is my soul not on earth anymore? How much of me can be a robot before I die?
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When the soul leaves the body, your body dies. St. Thomas Aquinas said in his , lib. 2 cap. 86 n. 4-5Summa Contra Gentiles that the soul’s “proper perfectible subject is a body having many different organs through which its multifarious operations can be carried out.” Read this for more information.
 
puzzleannie said:
of course.
if you see my knees, eyes, mind, and other parts laying around where I lost them when they broke, please PM me so I can pick them up.

there is a GB Shaw play that speculates on this idea and ends up with a brain on a pedastal talking to itself when the play ends.
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Your “mind” is not a visible part of your body; it is a process that lives within the head of your body. So no one can ever see your mind laying around, unlike your knees and eyes.

Your head is a part of your body, as as the brain it houses. But as neither brain nor head can be alive without the neck and body, if your brain were laying around, you would long since have reached your end.🙂

ICXC NIKA
 
iwannabesomeone said:
Let’s say I lose an arm and replace it with a robotic arm. Then I lose a leg and replace it with a robotic leg. Then I get a robotic heart after mine fails. Then a portion of my brain fails and I get a robotic part to replace it. Let’s say this goes on and on till my entire body is robotic. At what point is my soul not on earth anymore? How much of me can be a robot before I die?
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Only when your entire brain no longer works and when your personality is no longer yours do you die.
 
You stop being alive when you no longer are a person. Therefore, please define what a person is.
 
iwannabesomeone said:
Let’s say I lose an arm and replace it with a robotic arm. Then I lose a leg and replace it with a robotic leg. Then I get a robotic heart after mine fails. Then a portion of my brain fails and I get a robotic part to replace it. Let’s say this goes on and on till my entire body is robotic. At what point is my soul not on earth anymore? How much of me can be a robot before I die?
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Why would you die in such a process? As long as your personality persists, you are alive in the broadest sense of the word. You might not be a **biological **being any more, but who say that there is only carbon based life possible?

Obviously I am just a soulless monster in many people’s eyes, but that does not bother me one bit. I think, therefore I am - and that is enough for me.

R. Daneel Olivaw
 
It is not just that we have a body, we are a body. No body, no human. Know body. Know Human. We do not merely inhabit a body. Rather, our body is related to our existence.
 
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