If you were to move, how important is a red state?

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Apart from what you have noted, there are parts of the same state which may be red, while other parts may be blue. In New York State, for example, which is generally considered a very blue state, Upstate New York, outside of New York City, is not blue, for the most part. Even New York City itself, depending on the borough you live in, ranges from very blue to purple bordering on red. Of course, the state or local government may still be blue, but the people may not be. I have also lived in NJ and PA, and it really depends on where in the state you live.
 
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I am amazed how much people think about gun liberty. Obsession. What unlikely scenarios are playing in their minds? The wild west? Warring tribes? Fascist takeover? Snap out of it. Life in the US is not one of those movie plots. We have much bigger problems to worry about. Gun liberty is not just a useless security blanket. It’s a distraction from the real work at hand.
 
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Beryllos said:
Gun liberty is not just a useless security blanket. It’s a distraction from the real work at hand.
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It’s a vital freedom set apart from many others by the founders of this nation. It’s part of American history and American culture. The founders recognized that the final check on government would be the people, armed and ready to enforce the freedoms provided to them by God. The amount of shame one receives for being a good citizen by exercising their rights is appalling.
 
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Is it in line with Catholic teaching to shoot someone for being inside your house?
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@FiveLinden:

I’m not saying it’s OK to shoot someone just for being in your house.
I’m highlighting the “Castle Doctrine,” a principle that originated in British law.
Here’s North Carolina’s approach, per Find Law.

In North Carolina, which has a broad version of the castle doctrine, it’s relatively easy to establish self-defense because a person who “unlawfully and forcibly” enters your home is presumed to intend violence, and you are presumed to have a reasonable fear of harm. These presumptions may keep you out of jail if, for instance, you shoot your unarmed neighbor searching for his tools. Defense of your occupied car or workplace is treated the same way.
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I think New Jersey’s law hampers people who may to protect their families.
The rules from the Catechism about self-defense

2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one’s own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:

If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one’s own life than of another’s.
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HomeschoolDad said:
Better cultural fit
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I totally agree. In Georgia, people still say “Have a blessed day”, and even on the Waffle House sign this year there are phrases like “God is still in control” or “prayer works!” There are Bibles in the mechanic’s waiting room, the hotels, the doctor’s office, everywhere. People read the Bible at the LAUNDROMAT waiting for their clothes (I just saw that a couple months ago), as well as in Starbucks or on the bus.
 
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I don’t live in the US but it seems to me that living in a red state became an important issue to many people who seek peace and safety.

From here, it looks like blue states are the more violent ones and where destruction by mobs seem to be more tolerated by the government and locals…
 
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felsguy said:
Just wonderin’, how do you know you don’t have any now? Or you do, but you just don’t like them?
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I know several of them. My next door neighbor is one of them. It’s not about liking them. It’s about being able to feel safe around them.
 
Capta(name removed by moderator)rudeman said:
The amount of shame one receives for being a good citizen by exercising their rights is appalling.
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I half agree with Beryllos. It’s not that gun rights aren’t legitimate; it’s that some people obsess about guns entirely out of proportion to anything else. There are people who plan against home invasions like they’re a daily thing, whereas in most neighborhoods they are extremely rare.

I think it’s also fair to say that people forget that gun rights aren’t the only rights that need protecting. How many people rush to forward angry emails everytime gun control legislation is mentioned but are completely tuned out to developments regarding 4th amendment rights, for example?
 
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Formon said:
I know several of them. My next door neighbor is one of them. It’s not about liking them. It’s about being able to feel safe around them.
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Sounds pretty dramatic and paranoid.
 
Formon said:
It’s not about liking them. It’s about being able to feel safe around them.
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Do they have criminal records? Do they go around verbally or physically assaulting people? Trashing people’s yards? Helping themselves to stuff from the neighbors’ porches? Snooping in your trash?
 
I find that stability is the importance to a happy living environment and that is subjective to career and values. It comes down to “Can I afford to live here and will I be comfortable with those around me?”.
A tech CEO probably wouldn’t benefit from backwoods Tennessee nor would a non skilled worker do too well in large city.
There are, of course, mixtures of thought in each state. As said above, NY is, land wise, somewhat conservative, but the sheer volume of people in the city overrule their desires by vote. The question remains, “would you be comfortable not having as much say in policy if you were conservative in that area?”.
It does have to be said that there is a mass exodus that has been occurring for at least a decade of people leaving blue areas due to cost of living and instability. What confuses me is why they continue to vote for the same policies that caused the high cost of living in the first place.
 
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Do they have criminal records? Do they go around verbally or physically assaulting people? Trashing people’s yards? Helping themselves to stuff from the neighbors’ porches? Snooping in your trash?
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Yes.

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Aulef said:
From here, it looks like blue states are the more violent ones and where destruction by mobs seem to be more tolerated by the government and locals…
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Don’t believe everything you see in conservative media/social media. I have lived in both red and blue areas - I don’t see any increased security risk from living amongst the slightly more progressive.
 
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