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Where is that in the CCC or Cannon Law?
Where is it that you get to determine it?Where is that in the CCC or Cannon Law?
Your inability to produce a defensible reply would indicate the discussion is over.No. I produced the same thing of the case of necessity. You want to argue who decides it. Pony up.
If it’s a valid Catholic marriage (regardless where the service took place), then the OP has already promised to do everything he can to ensure his children are baptized Catholic.If you are married in the Catholic Church, the Children should be baptized in the Catholic Church. And then raised as a Catholic.
I would think that a Catholic parent would wish their child to be baptized Catholic, just as the OP has indicated, regardless.If you are married in a born again Church, then it should be born again baptism.
You might not care… but the Church does.In this situation, 99.9% of the importance is attached to the kids simply being baptized - I don’t care where and by whom.
‘Paperwork’ is only part of it. It should be performed by the Church’s minister. It should be done according to the rite. The child should be known to be a member of a parish.00.1% of the importance is making sure that it is performed with the desired Catholic paperwork. And I think assigning 00.1% importance is very, very generous.
Apples and oranges. You’re recommending Catholic baptism to the OP, and you’re comparing it to your non-Catholic Christian baptism. (In your RCIA class, they should have asked you for documentation of your baptism. If there were none, then they should have asked for something in writing. Just because they did it haphazardly, doesn’t prove your case here.No it isn’t. When I did Catholic RCIA as an adult, I wrote down when and where my baptism was done and if it was done using a Trinitarian formula. That was it. No biggie.
What is the ‘necessity’ you’re attempting to assert, then? The father, on his own, could walk into a church and ask for his child to be baptized. No need for the mother to be there. No necessity to do it at home, then.Sure. I just didn’t think you’d actually need it. Here we go;
So can dad baptize his kid if wifey doesn’t want to do it in the RCC? Is the baptism valid?
Yep and Yep.
Well, actually, since it’s a canon law question, I’d say that the Church gets to determine it.You don’t get to determine necessity.
Which means that Catholic dad can get it wrong. Period.Catholic dad and his conscience does.
Period.
ABSOLUTELY NOT - take the baby to an ordained Catholic priest like everyone else. Do not do something new or unusual.Should the father do it himself
I realize many people take this stance but, honestly, vaccinations and education (while important) are hardly the same thing as a life-long spiritual binding of the soul for someone who has no say in the matter. To suggest it is, is intellectually dishonest.Should he also wait and allow his child to decide if he wants to be vaccinated against preventable diseases? And wait until his child can decide whether or not he wants an education?
Pretty sure Jesus said “born anothen”, and it was Nicodemus who misunderstood “born from above” as “born again”.Pretty sure Jesus said something about needing to be born again.