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PJM
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I’m a Catholic what aren’t you:shrug:
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cyberwolf001
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Because I believe in the gods
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Cristiano
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I do not want to get into a philosophical discussion,I am just trying to understand your definition of gods.
Are the gods that you believe in creators of the human beings? Are human beings created by a specific god and other things by other gods? Can you please describe a little bit what and who your gods are?
I am sorry but I am completely clueless of what you are talking when you say “I believe in the gods”
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cyberwolf001
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I’m a polytheist. I believe in a good many gods, some created humans, some didn’t.I do not want to get into a philosophical discussion,I am just trying to understand your definition of gods.
Are the gods that you believe in creators of the human beings? Are human beings created by a specific god and other things by other gods? Can you please describe a little bit what and who your gods are?
I am sorry but I am completely clueless of what you are talking when you say “I believe in the gods”
Link Look at the second definition and third for how I define gods.
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Cristiano
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Thanks for the indication, I also looked at the link in your signature.
I am just trying to understand why it makes sense to you to believe in multiple gods. However, I will not be able to comprehend it at all unless I have a decent understanding of what they are and who they are.
I still have a few questions if you do not mind answering. Do all the gods have the same capabilities, I mean can they do the same things or do they have the same powers? Do you believe in major and minor gods like the ancient Greeks and Romans did?
I am asking you because you have been around CAF quite a bit, and you showed to be open in sharing your thoughts. I am not trying to prove you wrong, I am just curious.
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cricket55
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What is all this rubish about many Gods! There is only one True God the Father and his son Jesus Christ. You must be aeithest. I’m not here to judge anyone, but you need to be a Christian to go to heaven. Unless that is not your goal. Well, each to their own.
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mdrummer5
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Calling someone’s beliefs rubbish, insisting that they must be an atheist and implying they’re not going to heaven THEN stating that you’re not here to judge is beyond ironic. You’re on a Catholic forum claiming to be Catholic… maybe you should try a little charity.
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BYUChemAlum
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This is why I never respond to these sorts of threads, they always turn into some sort of interrogation and/or mockery, even though the OP obviously doesn’t intend it to be such.
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mdrummer5
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Yep… funny but sad at the same time that some are so quick to ignore the teachings they claim to follow so closely. I certainly don’t claim to be perfect in that following but I’d like to think that I at least have respect for other peoples’ beliefs.
Cyberwolf for what it’s worth I too am curious as to why you believe what you believe, other religions have always fascinated me.
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PJM
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So friend, tell me about your gods. Especially the one that created humanity.
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PJM
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Are there any gods in Budism?
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Publisher
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Because I have experienced the fullness of Christ by grace through faith…I find the simple message of Friends to be the most compatible to the testimony of what faith in Christ should be…I have no need for religious rites or rituals performed for me by another…Christ Himself is Baptizer and I experience His Real Presence in private and corporate worship.
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John_Paul_Jones
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You not a Catholic because your a Catholic? What does that even mean?
I’m not a atheist. I’m not a polytheist. I’m definitely not into the occult, neopagan druidry, the age of aquarius, unitarian universalism, buddhism, hare krishna, nor islam etc etc I’m not into syncretism and I’m not into Christian-Zionism, where some Christians fell the need they have to help the Jews build the third temple.
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seeker57
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As a Unitarian Universalist, I believe there is some portion of what the essence of God is to be found in Catholic teachings.
But only a portion.
I believe parts of the truth can be found in all world faiths, as well as in science, reason and human experience.
I believe the whole of the universe, the entirety of God if you will, is too vast and unfathomable to be contained in a single faith.
I could not be Catholic because I could not accept all of the teachings associated with it, especially those dealing with hell, damnation and sin.
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But only a portion.
I believe parts of the truth can be found in all world faiths, as well as in science, reason and human experience.
I believe the whole of the universe, the entirety of God if you will, is too vast and unfathomable to be contained in a single faith.
I could not be Catholic because I could not accept all of the teachings associated with it, especially those dealing with hell, damnation and sin.
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meltzerboy
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The short and probably best answer to the question, for me and perhaps many others, is that I was not born Catholic, but instead was born Jewish. Now I realize people do convert to Catholicism, or Protestantism, or Judaism, or Islam, or Buddhism, etc. But my feeling is most people do NOT convert, even as adults. Rather, they remain members of their own faith. If I were born Catholic, I most likely would have remained Catholic and believed in the teachings of Catholicism.
The long answer would involve Jewish apologetics, which I prefer not to get into since it would be inappropriate on a Catholic Forum.
The long answer would involve Jewish apologetics, which I prefer not to get into since it would be inappropriate on a Catholic Forum.
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John_Paul_Jones
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vice versa
Yes, some truth can be found here and there throughout the world… but the Holy Roman Catholic Church claims it has all the truth to obtain eternal life with God, is that something you can agree with?
That is the one thing I don’t get, how can one open up a news paper, read it, and not see the need for morality? I’m not talking about things in the news paper like natural disaster where some fundamentalist might point to them as God’s wrath, I’m talking about scandals, and murders, etc. they prove the need for morality and the Ten Commandment are necessary. The problem of sin is real, and it’s evidently found in the world - what don’t you agree with the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching on it?
This thread is about “what aren’t you”
meltzerboy
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I think the OP meant to ask “WHY aren’t you Catholic?”vice versa
Yes, some truth can be found here and there throughout the world… but the Holy Roman Catholic Church claims it has all the truth to obtain eternal life with God, is that something you can agree with?
That is the one thing I don’t get, how can one open up a news paper, read it, and not see the need for morality? I’m not talking about things in the news paper like natural disaster where some fundamentalist might point to them as God’s wrath, I’m talking about scandals, and murders, etc. they prove the need for morality and the Ten Commandment are necessary. The problem of sin is real, and it’s evidently found in the world - what don’t you agree with the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching on it?
This thread is about “what aren’t you”
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seeker57
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I am not good a breaking up the responses as you have, so bear with me.vice versa
Yes, some truth can be found here and there throughout the world… but the Holy Roman Catholic Church claims it has all the truth to obtain eternal life with God, is that something you can agree with?
That is the one thing I don’t get, how can one open up a news paper, read it, and not see the need for morality? I’m not talking about things in the news paper like natural disaster where some fundamentalist might point to them as God’s wrath, I’m talking about scandals, and murders, etc. they prove the need for morality and the Ten Commandment are necessary. The problem of sin is real, and it’s evidently found in the world - what don’t you agree with the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching on it?
This thread is about “what aren’t you”
The answer to your first question is no. I don’t belief any church, faith system or spirituality can have all the truth.
The answer to your second question is, I don’t believe in sin. I believe people wrong one another, to be sure. But, the concepts of sin and morality often are used by one group, usually those in power, to control the less powerful.
But, more importantly, I believe God will bring all of us to him in his own good time. Whether or not God will chastise those who have acted wrongly is solely up to God. But I don’t believe it would be the “for all eternity” scenario that some believe in.
Lastly, I believe you are mistaken. The original question was a “why?” not a “what?”
The OP asked why those of us who are not Catholics are not members of that church, not what someone isn’t.
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