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You are so far gone there is little to no hope for you. You have rejected God and goodness. You will pay for the rest of eternity for your decision. The bible tells us what to do with such, we will shake the dust from our feet and leave you to yourself. Now you may do the same.
 
ricko said:
You are so far gone there is little to no hope for you. You have rejected God and goodness. You will pay for the rest of eternity for your decision. The bible tells us what to do with such, we will shake the dust from our feet and leave you to yourself. Now you may do the same.
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That’s nonsense Saint Augustine was very similar to the young man before his conversion to Catholicism. Perhaps a tad more educated and philosphical but still, read Augustines Confessions and you’ll understand what you wrote is nonsense.
 
lukewarm said:
Anyway I’m a deist borderline agnostic, Yankee fan, and amateur violinist…
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If I were a Yankee fan, I’d be borderline agnostic too. 😉

Fortunately, I’m a Mets fan, so I have to believe in miracles! 😃
 
its a shame you dont understand. I have found within myself inner truths, develeved deep into my mind to change the poison to nectar. I have found that the weak die young, the strong must fight to keep out blood pumping. I have found that being both a warrior of the body and of the mind and spirit is keeping me alive.

Also this entire quote, does not describe me, never will and I dislike you putting me in your shoes. enough said, I’m allergic to Jesus…
Deacon110 said:
Pagan I grew up Roman Catholic so I know exactly what you are saying. Then I fell away and lived the life you are living now. I probably started that life around 18 or so when I went to college, lived away from home, did all the nasty things you describe with multiple partners. Not at one time but pretty sequentially. I drank, smoked pot, lived the night club life. I thought the church kept me down. Didn’t like going and listening to the holier than thou remarks. Thought I knew better.

I got married at 27 and just figured if it didn’t work I’d get divorced which is just what I did. Then I fathered a child out of wedlock, lived on the edge, lived for money, you name it. I’m quite certain I have much more experience than you with regard to living the wild lilfestyle. Some of the things I’ve done would probably make you look like an Angel. So nothing you are doing would surprise me or others on these boards in the very least:)

But eventually GOD worked HIS way back into my life about 10 years ago. Actually I never realized he was doing it, things just started to happen that ultimately led to where I am today. Now I won’t bore you with those details because I know at age 17 you have that ultimate defiance attitude that I’m sure I’ll have to contend with when my daughter reaches that age. I’m actually seeing it with my 2 sons ages 15 and 17 who think they are sooo cool. So basically it will go in one ear and out the proverbial other:) And I know you know so much better than anyone could because you’re 17 and have so much wisdom. Do I sound sarcastic? Just a little because as I read your post I was reminded of those days when I thought I was KING (insert expletive).

So go ahead and have your fun now, you won’t get any “please don’t do this, you’re wasting your life stuff from me”, and know that really good Christians will be waiting to help you when you ultimately fall flat on your face. And yes you will because we all do. I did, my wife did, everyone on this board probably has. When GOD picks you up you’ll know it. Only then will you be willing to look right at HIM and admit to how stupid you really were. And guess what? HIS love and forgiveness will be there with open arms just as it always is. That’s why HE’s so awesome. It’s just a shame it will take you sooooooooooo long to realize that.

PEACE
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First of all the great temples are gone, armies of the past crushed to show masses of dedicated soliders of the spirit. We fight now for equality and respect in our tradtitions. It is not strange for a Pagan to come to a Catholic forum and do what I’ve done, you see you’ve proved my point. I wanted the ignorant to come and condem their fellow man. You have shown me that you cannot “Treat thyn neighbor like thyn self…” So who is breaking church expectations more? You see i don’t have to abide by them, you do.

Also, is this not a Forum on believes? I have come to share mine and reflect on those held here, you wouldn’t say a Christian coming to a Catholic forum to share his ro her insights? I didn’t come here asking for a fight, your own prejeduce interpreted what I wrote as an invite.

waiting for the ingnorant ones to come,

true, you’ve come, but where did I say…

"Ya’ll a bunch of stupid cathloics who needs to stopppppppssss beings so dumns and such, ya’ll…’

never…

Also I don’t need your god, (yeah small “g” oh snap!) to pick me and save my soul, my soul is buring with passion and love. I love fellow man, perhaps you can’t see why I have come here… but I tell you I came looking for what I have found.

Catholics who break basic moral and ethical rules and laws, layed down by God.

(FYI just cause you whipped out the Pagans, doesn’t mean it was right!!!)
 
Pagan_Fury said:
Ill just let you sit on the knowledge that I am 17, male. I have a boyfriend, whom I love and do naughty things to in public settings. I strongly dislike the Catholic church in that they have kept me down, and my strong Pagan ties have given me stablilty and strength through the hardest of times. All without God, Jesus, or Jehovah, bet you didn’t know that was possible.

May be wondering why a Pagan is coming onto a Catholic forum, well… I’m not begging for my soul, I’m returning the favor. Too many Catholic visit the Pagan forum and tell us what sinners and heathens we are. In fact many of us aren’t Heathen in that, Heathen is a completely unique spiritual path, like druidism, Witchcraft, etc.

On that note, I open the floor to you all, and finger my pentacle lovingly as I wait for responses.
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First off, welcome!

2nd off; Why are you here?–and I suspect it’s because (if you realize it or not) The Holy Spirit is nudging you back to the Truth.

Yup, Truth, capital T intended.
 
I never felt comfortable, between that and the having to confine in the priest to realease my sins, I couldn’t take all the confinement. I felt trapped by expectations and being told what a horrible person I was. I have morals and ethics, perhaps more so then a few Catholics, one basic golden rule that I take into account is,

If it harm none, be it done.

I try to respect that, although with the corruption in the church, we can see that not everyone can, treat other as you would like to be treated.

how dare you! The holy spririt nudging me back!?! no I stumbled on this forum in a google search, not intending to look for Catholic forums. If anything me finding this forum is an attempt to teach a lession, and by Odin’s guidance I will fight the ignorance that I am now faced with.
 
lukewarm said:
That’s nonsense Saint Augustine was very similar to the young man before his conversion to Catholicism. Perhaps a tad more educated and philosphical but still, read Augustines Confessions and you’ll understand what you wrote is nonsense.
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Also I don’t need your god, (yeah small “g” oh snap!) to pick me and save my soul, my soul is buring with passion and love. I love fellow man, perhaps you can’t see why I have come here… but I tell you I came looking for what I have found.

I stand by my post.
 
Pagan_Fury said:
Ill just let you sit on the knowledge that I am 17, male. I have a boyfriend, whom I love and do naughty things to in public settings. I strongly dislike the Catholic church in that they have kept me down, and my strong Pagan ties have given me stablilty and strength through the hardest of times. All without God, Jesus, or Jehovah, bet you didn’t know that was possible.

May be wondering why a Pagan is coming onto a Catholic forum, well… I’m not begging for my soul, I’m returning the favor. Too many Catholic visit the Pagan forum and tell us what sinners and heathens we are. In fact many of us aren’t Heathen in that, Heathen is a completely unique spiritual path, like druidism, Witchcraft, etc.

On that note, I open the floor to you all, and finger my pentacle lovingly as I wait for responses.
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As the Beatles sang,

“When I find myself in times of trouble
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
And in my hour of darkness
She is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.”

I’m non-Catholic, by the way.

I find it interesting that you come openly showing your contempt for Catholics and the church and flaunt your lifestyle. Not a condemnation, just an observation. Though you have stated your reason for being here, I wonder if there isn’t some part of you that longs for something more to come of it.

Be aware that paganism *can be *an introductory phase leading to Satanism. If you start practicing rituals and spells (you didn’t mention what kind of “pagan” you are) you may find yourself enamored with it and wanting more. I encourage you to not follow that path.

Paganism may help you rationalize your outward behavior and attitude, but I hope that at some point you reconsider your relationship with God and seek purity and God’s peace in your life.
As you finger your pentacle with combat on your mind, I finger my St. Michael pendant and send you peace and blessings.

Peace…

MW
 
i don’t expect you to fall back in the face of resistance, let your post stand, mine will as well.
 
Its not the Catholic people you seem to be at odds with. We are here to give you a message. Dont kill the messenger, it is God to whom you have to deal with. We can only give you the message he gave to humanity, Hope, Love (is God), peace, joy and life eternal, but you have a free will to accept it or not, Satan rejected him, but he has no hope, you do.

Now I am one of those ignorant ones, because I am ignorant to your lifestyle, so never lived that way, nor do I have any personal experience to give you, not to mention I prefer never to live such a lifestyle as you described.

Because I admit my ignorance to your lifestyle, would you be able to man up to your ignorance of the Catholic church?

Then maybe we can get to understand our ignorances of one another, learn where we actually stand, make a change or walk away in peace.

I can say many things about your lifestyle, but it would only be what I heard, and medical factors. But I never heard this language you spoke from the horses mouth. If a dialogue is to occurr, let it be with descent language.

Peace be with you:)
 
Pagan_Fury said:
I never felt comfortable, between that and the having to confine in the priest to realease my sins, I couldn’t take all the confinement. I felt trapped by expectations and being told what a horrible person I was. I have morals and ethics, perhaps more so then a few Catholics, one basic golden rule that I take into account is,

If it harm none, be it done.

I try to respect that, although with the corruption in the church, we can see that not everyone can, treat other as you would like to be treated.

how dare you! The holy spririt nudging me back!?! no I stumbled on this forum in a google search, not intending to look for Catholic forums. If anything me finding this forum is an attempt to teach a lession, and by Odin’s guidance I will fight the ignorance that I am now faced with.
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I could understand somehow that sometimes we are pressured to do things; I’ve been there too and it is not just about religion…it is about all things.

“if it harms none, be it done.” – could you give an example in your life journey?

Who is Odin?
 
I am not a satanist, I am mildly offended, ish. I don’t really care, it is what media has portrayed. I am no Satanist, and hold my action to high moral standards. I am no witch, but my specific path is of no consiquence. What matters is the basic message.

I wonder if you Catholics even understand the way Pagans see you! You would be amazed, We all respect you, but very few will let the beast into their hearts. I will try not to speak for all, but I know that I see the basic believes in Catholicism are good, they try to spread love and peace amounst fellow man. Yet they start wars, alienate whole peoples and destroy lives through corruptions within the Church. They say that God si for America, and they believe that to be true. If God is specifcally for America, then he is Specifically against everyone else.
 
Pagan_Fury said:
I wonder if you Catholics even understand the way Pagans see you! You would be amazed, We all respect you, but very few will let the beast into their hearts. I will try not to speak for all, but I know that I see the basic believes in Catholicism are good, they try to spread love and peace amounst fellow man. Yet they start wars, alienate whole peoples and destroy lives through corruptions within the Church. They say that God si for America, and they believe that to be true. If God is specifcally for America, then he is Specifically against everyone else.
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God is not “only for America”. If an American says that, he is an arrogant American. And possibly more ignorant than most people. Just because many Americans are Christian doesnt mean anything. But then again God could be with you in a special way.

I saw on tv once, an American radio presenter, who I think was an evangelical. He said that he heard someone suggest that the US is the new chosen people.

I think many people are offended by comments like that.
 
Have you not read the signs! litterally signs along high ways, God bless american GodUSAves all, back when I was christian, my youth pastor told me a story, he went to the US (I’m not in the USA) and he told me that the Priest and pastors down there spoke like that. God is for America, God will save our great land.

My youth pastor was thrown out of the Church when he told the pastor after the cermon that God doesn’t pick sides, God is for everyone.

True story, I know pehaps you may not believe me, but the words I speak are true.

Also some one in the thread said I was ignorant of Catholic and Christian ways, I am in a Catholic school where we celebrate and pray daily, (well they do, I don’t prey with them, but I have to go to the celebrations) I was raised Chrisitan by my mother, who is still very Christian. I went to Baptist camp until a year ago! I am nto ignorant, I knwo both sides of the coin.
 
Pagan_Fury said:
I am not a satanist, I am mildly offended, ish. I don’t really care, it is what media has portrayed. I am no Satanist, and hold my action to high moral standards. I am no witch, but my specific path is of no consiquence. What matters is the basic message.

I wonder if you Catholics even understand the way Pagans see you! You would be amazed, We all respect you, but very few will let the beast into their hearts. I will try not to speak for all, but I know that I see the basic believes in Catholicism are good, they try to spread love and peace amounst fellow man. Yet they start wars, alienate whole peoples and destroy lives through corruptions within the Church. They say that God si for America, and they believe that to be true. If God is specifcally for America, then he is Specifically against everyone else.
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**All that you stated above I agree with you, except I feel I need to clarify your statement about the Catholic church. Yes many have died, wars are fought, peoples have been alienated by human institutions. What we dont realize is it is MAN that has caused these destructions, not God, The Catholic belief is against these things you mentioned, MAN and how he is infulenced by the evil in his heart is his choice, not God’s. If we obeyed the one law God gave us “thou shall not kill” we would not be having this discussion. but Man choses his own will. It is a shame that yes some were from the Catholic church. But it was not the Catholic faith herself. I just want to call your attention the reality of what truly took place.

I am ignorant Pagan fury, what do pagans think of us Catholics? I would really want to know your take on this?**
 
Pagan_Fury said:
I am not a satanist, I am mildly offended, ish. I don’t really care, it is what media has portrayed. I am no Satanist, and hold my action to high moral standards. I am no witch, but my specific path is of no consiquence. What matters is the basic message.
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If you read my post well enough, you would remember that I said that Paganism can be an introduction into Satanism by the use of spells and rituals as attested to by cultic Satanists I know. What is your specific path?

I don’t get my information from the media at all. They don’t have a clue about SRA, so why would I follow their investigative reporting on anything?

There is darkness all around you. Let the light into your life.

Peace…

MW
 
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