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CHRISTIAN is all-ecompassing, it includes roman catholics, protestants, evangelists, etc. I was raised roman catholic, and have turned CHRISTIAN. I follow my own path to Jesus. If the Torah can decieve, why cant the bible? “It came from God!”
…right into the hands of Man and Demon. Who are a)imperfect and cant fully, perfectly translate another language, and b)seek to take people away from God. By the way, without using ‘the bible says so’ OR ‘its just immoral’ explain how just homosexuality is evil.
Catholics are Christians. Most protestants are NOT Christians. The word Christian has a set meaning that is not going to change just because you want to make up your own definition. Even the protestants that are Christians are broken Christians that have not got half a clue as to what the truth is. You may want to follow yourown path to Jesus, but isn’t is a lot smarter to follow the path to Jesus that HE laid out for us to follow and desires that we follow. This isn’t rocket science here, it just basic logic. Following yourown path is very selfish and it a blaring sign to God that you do not want to follow God’s rules but only your own. Only those that want to follwo God’s rules go to heaven, and anyone who doesn’t will have to not go to heaven and be outside following their own rules, where Jesus tells us there will be wailing and grinding of teeth.

Homosexuality is wrong because it debases human beings. Not to mention the fact that anal sex is an act of Violence, it turns one human being into a piece of meat for the satisfaction of another. You could try to levy the same arguement against heterosexuals and it would hold true for those that treat the opposite sex with this kind of attitude but it is not always true of heterosexuals, especially not in most married couples, where as it is always true with homosexual sex.
 
How bout this; God wants TWO LOVING PARENTS
which we understand to be a loving father and mother - the absolute ideal and the way nature and God intended it to be.
LOVE (homosexualsLOVE each, not just a drunken sex binge) is more important in the bible than LUST(which is sin)
I think I agree, but I’m not too sure why this comment was made.
AND ALL churches are corrupt in some way.
Human individuals are sinners however, the Church Herself being the Mystical body of Christ is of course sinless.
If we accept Jesus- Heaven (christian view)
(Catholic view as well)
If we get baptised and put ashes on our head, give up something for 40 days, and many other paganistic rituals, and also accept Christ THEN we get Heaven
We go to heaven because of the grace of God, and by His Grace alone. Lent is just a devotional practice that helps us to become better Christians and if done properly helps us to grow closer to Christ.
…ima go with the Christians and just accept Jesus. your way is fine, and Ive done it all. But Im just gunna go with accepting a new friend rather than perform paganistic rituals, ye heathen sinner.
It seems like you are trying to draw a distinction between the terms Christian and Catholic when there is of course no distinction. All Catholics are Christian, but sadly not all Christians are Catholics.

Putting Ash on one’s forehead on Ash Wednesday to begin a Christian fast which honours Jesus’ own fast is anything but pagan. Perhaps if I were wearing ash to honour a pagan god then it would be a pagan ritual, but we wear ash in order to honour God.
 
No.
We can observe far more than our senses allow by using proper equipment. And our mind is not limited to three spatial dimensions plus time. We can calculate worlds with any number of dimensions we like.
When it is all said and done we are limited by the box we live in. We can observe and test, but the raw data means nothing. We have to use reason to interpret the data.

By definition it limits our reason.
 
Yeah, I read through the thread. I was going to reply earlier, but a lot of the postings were making me angry, and I’d rather not post that way, it just adds fuel to the fire. The OP really managed to chuck an apple of discord in here, eh? Everybody seems to be at each other’s throats.

I personally think this thread isn’t accomplishing anything, and should be tied off in a square knot.
 
Yeah, I read through the thread. I was going to reply earlier, but a lot of the postings were making me angry, and I’d rather not post that way, it just adds fuel to the fire. The OP really managed to chuck an apple of discord in here, eh? Everybody seems to be at each other’s throats.

I personally think this thread isn’t accomplishing anything, and should be tied off in a square knot.
I think your right. For now looks like everyone has left so maybe it will close.
 
Except we were told to go forth and multiply.

But yes. Some people are called to celibacy.
PEOPLE OF THE PAST were told to go forth and multiply
NOW the world is over populated and we are like a virus, moving from one place to another, consuming
 
PEOPLE OF THE PAST were told to go forth and multiply
NOW the world is over populated and we are like a virus, moving from one place to another, consuming
Well until God Himself and not some faceless entity on the internet, tells humanity ‘‘stop-theres enough of you now’’ then I’ll stick with ‘‘go forth, and multiply’’

Amicus this has gone slightly off topic, perhaps you would like to start a new thread to continue this discussion?

God Bless

Peter
 
Well until God Himself and not some faceless entity on the internet, tells humanity ‘‘stop-theres enough of you now’’ then I’ll stick with ‘‘go forth, and multiply’’

Amicus this has gone slightly off topic, perhaps you would like to start a new thread to continue this discussion?

God Bless

Peter
probably
sorry to bother y’alls this much lol
byebye
 
When it is all said and done we are limited by the box we live in. We can observe and test, but the raw data means nothing. We have to use reason to interpret the data.

By definition it limits our reason.
So?
Human knowledge has gaps and our curiosity makes us fill them. Just the fact that there is something missing, does not mean a certain something is missing. Esp. in knowledge, if we would know, what’s missing there wouldn’t be a gap any longer.
 
So?
Human knowledge has gaps and our curiosity makes us fill them. Just the fact that there is something missing, does not mean a certain something is missing. Esp. in knowledge, if we would know, what’s missing there wouldn’t be a gap any longer.
The gap the we keep try to fill is God. Once you have him there is no longer a gap. There is still understanding that continues to unfold but that is it.
 
The gap the we keep try to fill is God. Once you have him there is no longer a gap. There is still understanding that continues to unfold but that is it.
It is essentially this desire to know God that exists in every man’s heart.

Even atheists have this desire. By closing the gaps they draw nearer to God, even though they won;t admit it.
 
It is essentially this desire to know God that exists in every man’s heart.

Even atheists have this desire. By closing the gaps they draw nearer to God, even though they won;t admit it.
Amen
 
It is essentially this desire to know God that exists in every man’s heart. …] By closing the gaps they draw nearer to God, even though they won;t admit it.
Oh yeah, that makes it easy for you of course. Glad you know better than me, what I feel and what desires I have. Thanks, Siggi Freud.
 
Oh yeah, that makes it easy for you of course. Glad you know better than me, what I feel and what desires I have. Thanks, Siggi Freud.
Let’s see. The whole world except for atheists can experience God. Perhaps atheists receiving mechanisms are faulty or obstinately blocked.

The bottom line is atheism offers nothing for most humans. The desire for and experience of God is much more satisfying. That is also why atheism does not have a chance of ever being relevant.
 
Let’s see. The whole world except for atheists can experience God.
The whole world? Taoists experience your god? But they are probably a religious kind of atheist.
Perhaps atheists receiving mechanisms are faulty or obstinately blocked.
Perhaps. So some god created us in a faulty way?

And then there are people who experience plenty of gods, perhaps their receiving mechanisms are even better than yours, if you fail to experience all of their gods. Hm?
 
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