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Montalban
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You’d be amazed how anti-Christian many lefties are! And yet they’re pro-Islam - viewing Islam as the victim of ‘western imperialism’.
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Sixtus
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I guess in the light of some of the exploitation that has happened in the past from Western Powers in former times of Commonwealth, they may be justified in at least some of their claims. But it has also to be said that some countries [such as former Rodesia] has asked for UK to resume Commonwealth controls as law and order has all but broken down and there is widespread belief that ordinary folk will be treated much more humanely under British rather than Home rule.
If we were to take the left-wing arguement to its logical conclusion, descendents of American Indians would be bombing and killing, which they are not. Perhaps then that speaks more about the culture and people of American Indians and United States as far more civilised, compassionate reconcliatory than those who live in other parts of the world.
One has only to look on this forum to see how Catholics Orthodox and Protestants tussle with each other. It may be said that within our heart of hearts, we not only love our brethren from whom we are seperated, but we love them dearly, pray for them and I have every faith them to us too!
Maybe then instead of criticizing US Culture, they should be observing to see what lessons there are to be learnt about living in harmony and reconciliation within and between different ethnicities, which the US, UK, other Western countries, Australia and New Zealand does and does rather well.
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Dempsey1919
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Thanks for the links. Sadly, what these authors say is true. We must affirm our own beliefs and defend our own culture before it’s too late. The fact that there are less people in the pews is one of the main reasons why Islam is growing in my opinion. If we are to halt Islam, then we must promote Christianity and what it stands for.
There are too many politically correct people…lets see if they’re so politically correct when we have to pay the jizya and are living under sharia law.
Listen to Wafa Sultan - she speaks the truth - despite many death threats. Type her name in youtube and see for yourself. She is an apostate from Islam and is in a better position than the western Muslims to explain what Islam REALLY stands for.
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Moneo
Take care and sorry for not replying sooner. I dont look at the forum as much nowadays.
tobylue
No need to apologize, I should have been more careful in posting. You are correct. I should have said “I agree” or “In addition to this, etc…”.
Take care and sorry for not replying sooner. I dont look at the forum as much nowadays.
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abu_kamoon
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Who exactly has persecuted the Muslims?
Radical insurgent groups. Who do you think is getting blown up in Iraq? Most of the casualties are Iraqis.
Most Muslims, like most Christians are peaceful. It only takes a small fraction of a percent to cause chaos. What would lead you to associate the terrorism caused by the insurgents with all Muslims? The media?
Radical insurgent groups. Who do you think is getting blown up in Iraq? Most of the casualties are Iraqis.
Most Muslims, like most Christians are peaceful. It only takes a small fraction of a percent to cause chaos. What would lead you to associate the terrorism caused by the insurgents with all Muslims? The media?
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Rodrigo_Bivar
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And what is the religion of those radical insurgent groups, which they use to justify their violence?
Buddhism? Hardly.
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bobzills
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The high birthrate in Muslim families is also a factor. Compare that with the low birthrate in European Catholic countries.
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Montalban
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You’re persistant in pushing this anti-Catholic stance!
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bobzills
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Keep your head in the sand and ignore the low birthrate in European Catholic countries.
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Montalban
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No one denies this. What is also undeniable is the skewing of ‘facts’ to suit a position. Thus you look at only ‘catholic’ birth-rates and only in wealthy nations, and compare these to Islamic birth-rates, per se
It’s just no longer amazing then how ‘bent’ your conclusion then becomes, based as it is on such highly selective use of facts.
What’s worst is instead of confining such stuff to one thread, you now want to spread it to others as if wishing to advertise yourself as chief user of rubbery figures. Is there some prize? One would hope not.
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Montalban
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It takes an ideology that diminishes the individual and his/her right at freedom of choice and expression.
It’s why we saw Marxist IRA members able to blow up pubs. Why socialist/Marxist Tamils can blow themselves up. And why Moslems can do the same.
Buddhism respects life. Christianity respects life.
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roman6320
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And what was the religion of those who perpetuated the St. Bartholomews Day Massacre? Or the 30 years war? Or the Salem Witch Trials?
It is a dangerous thing to attribute violent tendencies as an essential element of a religion. There are many verses in our Old Testament that are not too pretty.As for the violent verses in the Koran, they can be explained in the context of the times they were written, when the pagan Arabs were bent on wiping out Mohammed’s still small band and quasi Jewish tribes double crossed him and spied for the enemy.
It is one thing to criticize the problem of violence in Islamic culture and various odious practices done in the Middle East.(most of which date to pagan times and are not intrinsic to Islam) Yes, there are problems in the Koran that must be dealt with and reinterpreted by Muslims.aBut whether the brand of Islam propagated by the extremists is actually the correct interpretation is up to the Islamic world to ultimately decide. At this time most Muslims do NOT interpret it that way. We must be careful not to make simplistic generalizations that have the potential to foment hate.
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Rodrigo_Bivar
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You see - there you have made a FUNDAMENTAL mistake that novices make. You have equated someone behaving AGAINST the teachings of Jesus Christ with someone behaving ACCORDING to the teachings of Muhammad.
Violence is evil, right? Let us take that as a premise.
Christians commit violence AGAINST the teachings of Jesus Christ.
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Muslim terrorist commit violence ACCORDING TO the teachings of Muhammad.
You see the difference? One is AGAINST. The other is ACCORDING TO.
Now… do you want to reframe your spiel?
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Rodrigo_Bivar
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This is a lie.
Besides, according to Islamic law made up by Muhammad all the Muslims deserved to die for apostatizing from paganism.
Quit your double-standards.
Another lie.
Besides - that hardly excuses your collective punishments against the innocent women and children whom Muhammad exiled or enslaved.
Please quit your Islamo apologetics.
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obadiah
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I too am sick and tired of so called christians defending evil antichrist islam. Either take shahada and become muslim, or repent and read your Bible.
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AgnosTheist
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Hey careful of what you wish for. The person reading that might be crazy enough to actually join the ‘religion of rest in peace’
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obadiah
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Please don’t misquote me I stated Either Take Shahada and become muslim or repent and read the Bible.
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AgnosTheist
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^ hey wheres your sense of humor? 
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