Image in cloth at P. E. I. Church

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I think it’s quite a stretch. I have seen Jesus like images in numerous textures. I did not consider them religious experiences. I see all kinds of stuff in cloth, clouds, stucco, linoleum etc. It is an inherent tendency of the human mind. One minute something looks like the face of Jesus, the next it looks like a growling whippet, the next it looks like…

In cases such as described in this article, it is easy for one person to see an image, point it out to another, and due to another inherent tendency of the human mind–suggestibility, everyone else sees it too.

Interesting but I don’t think I’ll schedule a pilgrimage any time soon.
 


This is from CBC. I see it here! Can you see it? A semi-profile, gentle Face. Ah! I see how it could be Our Lady!

The following is from CTV:

Faithful flock to see Jesus image at P.E.I. church
Some parishioners say they can make out Jesus’ whole face, while some just see his eyes and nose. “It didn’t matter where I went I seen his face and it was just breathtaking, awesome,” one churchgoer said.

Others believe the face to be the Virgin Mary. “I can see a clear vision of the blessed Virgin Mary,” one man said moment after seeing the face in the cloth. And some say they can’t see a face at all.

Parish Priest, Rev. Jim Willick, says that although he can clearly see the image, the occurrence will not be considered a miracle until at least another week. “There have been, you know, phenomena around the world of the blessed mother and also of Christ and you have to ask the question, is it just a coincidence?” Rev. Willick said Monday.

For those that see the image, the experience is one of a kind. “It’s almost like a miracle…just that it happened here in Tignish, such a small community, it’s amazing,” one young woman said. The community’s deep Catholic roots make the image even more significant.
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coyote:
I think it’s quite a stretch. I have seen Jesus like images in numerous textures. I did not consider them religious experiences. I see all kinds of stuff in cloth, clouds, stucco, linoleum etc. It is an inherent tendency of the human mind. One minute something looks like the face of Jesus, the next it looks like a growling whippet, the next it looks like…

In cases such as described in this article, it is easy for one person to see an image, point it out to another, and due to another inherent tendency of the human mind–suggestibility, everyone else sees it too.

Interesting but I don’t think I’ll schedule a pilgrimage any time soon.
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I agree. I wouldn’t have seen anything on the cloth if someone hadn’t told me what I’m supposed to see. It reminds me of the Virgin Mary grilled cheese sandwich on ebay. The images are called simulacra and the tendency of the human mind to see the images is called pareidolia.

Want to see something more impressive? Check out these rose petals from Lipa, Philippines: thefolklorist.com/Pareidolia%20Project/extdoc/Lipa,%20Philippines%20%20Our%20Lady,%20Mediatrix%20of%20All%20Grace.mht
 
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coyote:
Cool!
But I don’t think they are “divine” impressions. I expect they are man made.
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Ah yes that is possible. 😃 Actually this is still being investigated by the Church. I have seen other photos of these “miraculous” rose petals on the web but those look more sophisticated visionsofjesuschrist.com/weeping349.htm and could possibly be fabricated

I don’t know if you can conduct an experiment but try reducing photo with a photocopier, then copy it to a transparency, put it on a rose petal, leave it there for a few days and see what happens. I haven’t done it by the way, we don’t a lot of flowers in our backyard (I can’t steal other neighbor’s hibiscus 😃 ). We don’t have native species of roses here in the Phil., although they can be cultivated here in the tropics. Now you can buy them in flower shops. If I were to investigate this 60 years ago, I probably would have started first in determining what species of rose the “original” petals belong to and their possible sources.
 
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coyote:
I think it’s quite a stretch. I have seen Jesus like images in numerous textures. I did not consider them religious experiences. I see all kinds of stuff in cloth, clouds, stucco, linoleum etc. It is an inherent tendency of the human mind. One minute something looks like the face of Jesus, the next it looks like a growling whippet, the next it looks like…

In cases such as described in this article, it is easy for one person to see an image, point it out to another, and due to another inherent tendency of the human mind–suggestibility, everyone else sees it too.

Interesting but I don’t think I’ll schedule a pilgrimage any time soon.
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Image ? What image ? Some people have over-active imaginations 🙂​

If people were told there was an image of Gandhi in it, or of John Lennon, or of something or someone else (Porky Pig, Daffy Duck, Rambo, or whoever) - that is what they would see.

If that is Jesus - why does He look like a crease in a piece of fabric ? 🙂

Besides - why do He and Mary appear in such weird places ? What’s wrong with a grotto or a hill ? Why the liking for inaccessible places like the tops of churches (Zeitoun); or for bizarre places like fence-posts (Australia); puddles of oil, windows, underpasses, and so forth ? (USA) Where next - a tortilla ? A Margherita, perhaps ? Why not a lasagne ? Better still, why not in a cappucino ?

Watch out for holy cappucinos on E-bay - it’s only a matter of time. (The Holy Spirit is presumably confined to appearing in alcoholic drinks) ##
 
Gottle of Geer said:
## Image ? What image ? Some people have over-active imaginations 🙂

If people were told there was an image of Gandhi in it, or of John Lennon, or of something or someone else (Porky Pig, Daffy Duck, Rambo, or whoever) - that is what they would see.

If that is Jesus - why does He look like a crease in a piece of fabric ? 🙂

Besides - why do He and Mary appear in such weird places ? What’s wrong with a grotto or a hill ? Why the liking for inaccessible places like the tops of churches (Zeitoun); or for bizarre places like fence-posts (Australia); puddles of oil, windows, underpasses, and so forth ? (USA) Where next - a tortilla ? A Margherita, perhaps ? Why not a lasagne ? Better still, why not in a cappucino ?

Watch out for holy cappucinos on E-bay - it’s only a matter of time. (The Holy Spirit is presumably confined to appearing in alcoholic drinks) ##
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Well, I wouldn’t sneer so soon nor question why images of Jesus and Mary should only appear where we expect them to appear. God can do what he likes, even put images where we think inappropriate–not that he has done that here, but he could do that if he wished. God isn’t as concerned about his image as he is about saving souls, after all. 😉

About the rose petals, it’s been shown that heating up an image of say a Miraculous Medal and pressing against rose petals will make an imprint of it. There’s nothing miraculous about the image on the petals–it was easily done by human hands.

This is why the Church investigates these things quite thoroughly. But, popular pious devotion ought not to be discouraged unless people are being deceived and/or bilked. God is everywhere–in everything around us. If some people see that in an image on a cloth or in the reflection of a window, there’s nothing wrong with that. Our faith doesn’t hinge on such things, of course, but they are usually harmless and can be spiritual helps to some people.
 
I will say the “image” is easier for me to make out than the ones I’ve seen on a toasted cheese sandwhich, a pancake, a frying pan and in a fruit salad.
 
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I will say the “image” is easier for me to make out than the ones I’ve seen on a toasted cheese sandwhich, a pancake, a frying pan and in a fruit salad.
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Plus the fact that the image can be seen on a cloth depicting the Crown of Thorns makes it more likely that God may have meant it to be uplifting to people’s faith. After all, “God works in mysterious ways his wonders to perform.” 😃
 
If you have spent any time working with your own digital pictures on the computer you realize they are worthless as evidence since they can be cropped, shrunk, enlarged, manipulated and otherwise altered, so any image posted on a computer (or published in a newspaper or magazine) are of no value in establishing the reality of what is seen.

Big deal, I have not heard or read anything from any bishop about this event so from my point of view it never happened. Dozens of these stories each week-holy images, bleeding hosts, weeping statues, Marian tortillas–all proven to be false, natural events or hoaxes the next week. What an utter waste of time especially in Lent when our minds and hearts should be turned to the greater honor and glory of God. How Satan must chuckle any time one of these blips turns us away from the real Divine Revelation back to our vain search for shadows.

I shudder to think what would have happened at Lourdes and Fatima had those events happened in the era of instant messaging.
 
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